Death penalty: whats your opinion ?

[manny78]

Re: some People are just Evil

You are nieve. You have obviously never met a truley evil person. A person who has absolutely no regard for life or property. the type of person hwo either enjoys inflicting pain on children and weaker adults or feels nothing when they do. SOME PEOPLE DESERVE TO DIE. The problem is making sure those who do, deserve it.

hasta

litig8r

You're correct on this one. We had some bastards like that here recently. Evil persons like Paul Bernardo, Carla Omolka, 2 or 3 guys from the Hells Angels and Bandidos, these deserve to die...... Rehabilitation is something unthinkable with them.....

 

[litig8r]

I've watched an execution. The execution of a man I put on death row. I cried the entire night afterwards. Anyone who takes this shit lightly has no business doing it. I hate it. I do not like making the decision on wheather or not to seek the death penalty but it has to be done. No matter how right it may be, it is still the hardest thing i ever have to do. When it stops making me loose sleep, It will be time to quit.

hasta

litig8r

 

[HumorMe]

Why don't we gather all......

the death row inmates and turn them over to goatslayer. That would be worse than the death sentence in any language! Later!

 

[litig8r]

litig8rlitig8r - which county are you in ? I understand if you dont want to say. (smal world and all)


You are right. I would rather not say. Some of this shit can come back to roost. Lets just say I don't have to dial "1" to reach you.

hasta

litig8r

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

I've watched an execution. The execution of a man I put on death row. I cried the entire night afterwards. Anyone who takes this shit lightly has no business doing it. I hate it. I do not like making the decision on wheather or not to seek the death penalty but it has to be done. No matter how right it may be, it is still the hardest thing i ever have to do. When it stops making me loose sleep, It will be time to quit.

hasta

litig8r

So basically what you are saying is that you, as the litigator who seeks and pushes for the death penalty is the one who should decide who should live or die? That is absurd. You can't even spell homicide correctly. I guess all you have to lose is sleep.

 

[litig8r]

No I don't decide to execute someone nor do I do it. I decide if a NEUTRAL PANEL OF TWELVE CITIZENS selected by me and the defendant's attorney in a process that takes sometimes a month or more will get to hear the case. THEY will decide if the defendant is guilty and then if he will be executed. They have agreed with me before resulting in a death penalty and they have disagreed with me before resulting in a life sentence. That is the way it works. Checks and Balances. No individual makes the decision. As an aside, the ass wipe that I tried for capital murder that got a life sentence killed another inmate in prison but I guess that was ok.

hasta


litig8r

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

The main problem I have with this has to do with the jury system in the first place. Not all countries have the jury system in place (Sweden for example), instead the judge and supporting judges rule.

The idea with the jury system is to be judged by your peers, but the people they drag in for jury duty are rarely your peers. Many times they are complete idiots, driven by emotions rather than logic.

Also, even though some of these criminals should 'deserve' to die, shouldn't our society strive to be better by not adopting such ancient eye-for-an-eye ruling mechanisms? The legal system shouldn't be based on emotions, or on notions of 'justice' and 'retribution' for the victims' families, but on applying established laws in an logical and orderly fashion.

Also, by offing such criminals, you eliminate any possibilities for psychological study of what makes criminal commit such heinois crimes in the first place.

I would say put them to work where it positively affects society, more than having them make belt buckles and license plates, or whatever they do in there.

Capital punishment is grossly outdated, and the majority of people agree on this point.

 

[manny78]

I guess death penalty is less expensive than keeping someone for the next 40 yeras inside.......

 

[litig8r]

When you take the death penalty debate on an international level, it gets quite complex. Most other nations do not require the government to prove guilt, there are prohibitions against making one accused of a crime present evidence or testify. I can not even HINT that a jury consider a defendant's failure to testify without getting my case reversed. As for emotion, the Courts and Rules of procedure and Evidence have tried to sterilize crime. We call Rape sexual assault. I am not allowed to introduce "gruesome or grotesch" photos of autopsy or crimes scene unless I can articulate a specific reason for doing so. I can not talk about the fact that a defendant has killed before or is a drug dealer or child molestor because that might predjudice the jury. No, the laws in this country are designed for the sole purpose of protecting the accused with little or no regard for the victim. However, with strong evidenc and skilled prosecutors we overcome these hurdles to do our jobs. I don't really complain because the rules are there to protect those rare instances where an innocent man is charged. They are not there to protect the guilty. As for a jury of peers, most counties do not have a sufficient population of murders, child molesters and drug dealers to routinely provide a true jury of their peers. We have to do with regular everyday, law abiding citizens. If that is a flaw, I'll live with it.

As for study, that why God made monkeys

hasta

litig8r

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

The point I wanted to make about the jury system was that how a panel of normal folks who may or may not be of reasonable intelligence have the ability to sift through the barrage of information that is presented in a case. How can folks off the street be able to determine if for example the DNA testing presents the proper evidence, or if a complex sequence of events would imply guilt.

The jury doesn't even want to be there, let alone think too hard or too long. No wonder the 'oscar' nominated closing arguments seal the case.

When asked to decide on a man's fate, who knows what's in a jury member's past or what's in their minds that would cause a yea or a nay decision. They could be remorseful of a loved one's death that's similar to the case at hand, or just think that the guy 'looks' guilty, and 'probably' is.