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theironclan
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I hate them but I do this exercise till I almost pass out. Don't see too many others perform this exercise in my gym. Do you?
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UA_Iron
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I agree with above, I never really saw my back fill out till I started deadlifting!
you can get a decent back w/o them.
but i wouldnt go about building my back like that.
ill always do them, first in my routine for raw strenght, last in my routine for a change. because i know when im 90, ill still have great posture and mostly likely not be bed ridden because i was a lazy bastard in my early age. ill prolly still be deading then, who knows...
but i wouldnt go about building my back like that.
ill always do them, first in my routine for raw strenght, last in my routine for a change. because i know when im 90, ill still have great posture and mostly likely not be bed ridden because i was a lazy bastard in my early age. ill prolly still be deading then, who knows...
DieselGunz
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I do them, first in my workout, and it seems everytime i do them, some dumb ass comes over and asks "what is that for". I get a kick out of it all them time.
nsashbl01
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I usually do some bb rows or cable row's to warm up. Then do at least 3 sets of deads. I don't go crazy because I get injured easily. I usually do a set of 225x10-12, then 315x8, and 335x6. I know I can go heavier, but I take it easy to be safe. I do no isolated trap work and I believe deads are the reason I have decent traps.
Lord_Suston
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twice a week and my back has never felt btter, One day rack deads the other day pulls from the floor.
yomama said:I think I've done deads probly 3times in my whole life. I think I have a decent back.
of course.
but deading to me is satisfying, like if i dont do it something is missing and i feel week w/o them. mostly mental. but when i do them i picture me as a really large animal like a bear or lion in the wild fighting other animals or pushing over an suv or something. wild things goin through my head every minuet
Like squating, pulling in a findemental movement for the body. The only worth subsitutes involve similar pulling components performed dynamically - basically the olympic lifts and their variants. If you've never done them before there is a whole world of gains waiting to happen to you and all of your lifts and bodyparts will reap the rewards.
quadkilla31
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I think deadlifts should be apart of everyone's back work out. Deads are good for overall back development.
blut wump
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Woohoo! Now you've got me excited. I've only just added deadlifts into my workout after spending over a year molly-coddling my back. The feeling of standing up while that weight is trying to wrench itself back to the floor is way better even than getting a bench press that just slowly crawls to lockout.Madcow2 said:
romoranger
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where is the option for all-time greatest exercise ever?
araiber
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I love deads. I do them once a week, usually on tuesdays, and on fridays i do squats, good mornings, and the other stuff to help me improve my deadlifts.
Like most of you guys already said, ive never had the feeling of my back working hard other than after doing deads. Sleeping is a bitch!
Like most of you guys already said, ive never had the feeling of my back working hard other than after doing deads. Sleeping is a bitch!
MsBeverlyHills
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theironclan said:
not many because theyre all lined up at the curling station!! seriously for every one deadlifter at my gym, theres like a dozen guys that only work upper body!! pretty funny
theironclan
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Yeah, it's entertainment at my gym as well. I just go through my routine and watch with a slight smile on my face.MsBeverlyHills said:not many because theyre all lined up at the curling station!! seriously for every one deadlifter at my gym, theres like a dozen guys that only work upper body!! pretty funny
NorgePrecision
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The gym in my hometown doesn't even have deadlift station. Tomorrow is back day and they are going to really hate it when I start doing deadlifts on their pretty carpeted floor. It's on the second floor of the facility too, so it's going to be really loud.
Rex
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NorgePrecision said:The gym in my hometown doesn't even have deadlift station. Tomorrow is back day and they are going to really hate it when I start doing deadlifts on their pretty carpeted floor. It's on the second floor of the facility too, so it's going to be really loud.
Mine too, and I'm on a Marine Corps base. How the fuck is there not going to be a deadlift station, but enough benches to service the whole fucking base? Damn it pisses me off.
Daytime Dreamer
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I do them at every back workout! For me deep squats and deadlifts are A+++ exercises! I started at 60 kigs (125 pounds around) 2 years ago and now I am at 180 kgs(380 pounds) for 3 reps ...
If someone is natural (like me) I believe this is one of the best ways to develop their back somewhat quickly
Oh and first post here btw
If someone is natural (like me) I believe this is one of the best ways to develop their back somewhat quickly
Oh and first post here btw
DieselGunz
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I was doing heavy DLs today at about 3pm. Because of the New Years people half the gym has no idea what i was doing. After I was done people were coming up to me asking what does that do. Lol gotta love newbies.
I was going pretty heavy for me 405 for reps I had more in me but wanted 5x5.
I was going pretty heavy for me 405 for reps I had more in me but wanted 5x5.
Masterbaytan
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I <3 deadlifting.
you can build a solid back w/o them, AAP is an example
for me however, i noticed a big difference when i started doing them, so they have remained a staple
i, however
have not been able to do multiple reps, especially when it starts getting to 3-4 plates
i just feel liek i need to reset after each rep.....
for me however, i noticed a big difference when i started doing them, so they have remained a staple
i, however
have not been able to do multiple reps, especially when it starts getting to 3-4 plates
i just feel liek i need to reset after each rep.....
DieselGunz
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I like deadlifts because it is mind over matter, you are tired, sore,sweating and do not want to do anymore but you push yourself beyond your limits and it feels great. I do not squat like I should so the added bonus is moving alot of weight is a plus. On top of that I am very sore today, can hardly walk, makes me feel like a accomplished something. The down side is I eat like a maniac for the next 2 days.
blut wump
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I have a question: Sumo or Normal style?
I've only just added deadlifts into my workout and I find I feel more comfortable in sumo style. Should I stick with the style I like or, maybe, alternate workouts between the two. If I concentrate on one style and ignore the other am I ignoring a weakness which would be best dealt with? If I do both am I holding myself back?
I've only just added deadlifts into my workout and I find I feel more comfortable in sumo style. Should I stick with the style I like or, maybe, alternate workouts between the two. If I concentrate on one style and ignore the other am I ignoring a weakness which would be best dealt with? If I do both am I holding myself back?
The best deadlift for someone not competing in PL is the conventional (Normal). The sumo can provide a lot of lifters better leverage and the ability to make lifts they might miss on the conventional but conventional does a better job of strengthening the body. That said, there's no reason you can't pull sumo too or even favor that style. I just wouldn't completely ignore conventional pulling.
LeanMeanHockeyMachine
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It's style a deadlift, just your legs are much further apart, like how sumo's do that weird thing they do before a match... I dunno somebody could explain it much better than I.
theironclan
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I feel less prone to injuring my back when I do Sumo. I would stick with the most comfortable position.Blut Wump said:
-For those who don't know, the Sumo is performed with a slightly wider stance and a close grip (between legs).
So, I'm thinking of someone who is not competing and not interested in max lifts (basically - someone training for another sport or general development). There is no doubt that for many lifters the sumo is biomechanically supperior when it comes to moving max weights. Curiously though a lot of, maybe even the majority of records are set by conventional even though bar distance to travel is less and for most people it is a disadvantage. I guess maybe those with the best potential in the population seem to be built for conventional - not sure.Sugarplum said:
With submaximal weights I just feel it's a better all around exercise. I guess a good analogy to my take would be that conventional develops strength best while sumo utilizes strength best. There will always be exceptions to either camp (like the volume of records held by conventional pullers or someone who is very uncomfortable or unable to maintain position over the bar pulling conventionally).
Obviously, this is a huge amount of opinion but I've even seen it in my own training too. I can pull significantly more in the sumo. That said, my sumo increases the fastest right after a training cycle of conventional deads. If I totally ignore the sumo for long periods (1-2+ years) I can still make excellent progress given a period of time to reaclimate myself to the lift before pulling a max. My sumo is driven by my conventional. I find it makes me a lot stronger and swapping to the sumo allows me to utilize that strength better later on. Not saying I don't make progress with the sumo but it's noticably faster while ignoring it and training the conventional exclusively.
All in all it likely doesn't matter much but if I had to choose a single one for the average person who's primary interest was in strengthening their bodies and not their lifts (kind of a catch 22 but you know what I mean), it would be conventional. Of course, few people are average in every way and there are a lot of compelling reasons to pull both styles at different time periods - I'm kind of glad there isn't a single pull restriction in force.
blut wump
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Thanks, very digestible information.
I suspect that body shape has a lot to do with it. I have a fairly long body with respect to legs and the sumo lift feels, in many ways, similar to a hack squat to me. I feel less involvement of the core from the lift when compared with the conventional style.
I think I'll stick with both styles and maybe do sumo on those odd days when I do hack squats and concentrate on the conventional style for typical deadlifting. I'm currently avoiding using my belt and I'm way too weak overall in the lift to be worrying about optimizing my max. It's likely, even, that my form is still poor in the conventional style. I'll listen to what my back tells me.
For those who asked, sumo style consists of taking a comfortably wide stance and gripping the bar in front of you with your hands between your legs rather than the conventional wider grip and narrower stance with the hands and arms outside of the knees.
I suspect that body shape has a lot to do with it. I have a fairly long body with respect to legs and the sumo lift feels, in many ways, similar to a hack squat to me. I feel less involvement of the core from the lift when compared with the conventional style.
I think I'll stick with both styles and maybe do sumo on those odd days when I do hack squats and concentrate on the conventional style for typical deadlifting. I'm currently avoiding using my belt and I'm way too weak overall in the lift to be worrying about optimizing my max. It's likely, even, that my form is still poor in the conventional style. I'll listen to what my back tells me.
For those who asked, sumo style consists of taking a comfortably wide stance and gripping the bar in front of you with your hands between your legs rather than the conventional wider grip and narrower stance with the hands and arms outside of the knees.
theironclan
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Same with me.TheOak84 said:of course.
but deading to me is satisfying, like if i dont do it something is missing and i feel week w/o them. mostly mental. but when i do them i picture me as a really large animal like a bear or lion in the wild fighting other animals or pushing over an suv or something. wild things goin through my head every minuet
araiber
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blut wump said:
Yeah, Sumo is definately more favorable for taller lifters (if your in a competition and want to lift more weight over a smaller distance, hence less power to do so). I take regular stance, but I try to vary up the stance when I do sets, so I dont neglect the glutes and inner-thigh muscles. I feel you can get more strength gains from doing normal stance, but you should practice Sumo if your going to be in a competition/tournament and plan to lift more.
artificialaspirations
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I stopped doing them because my waist got so thick and muscular and I can barely sleep on my stomach anymore.
I feel like a bitch for not doing them and miss all the stares. I've seen 3 people deadlift at my gym.
I also feel like I compressed a disc last time and that scared the shit outta me.
I feel like a bitch for not doing them and miss all the stares. I've seen 3 people deadlift at my gym.
I also feel like I compressed a disc last time and that scared the shit outta me.
Hybridtheory2o
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I think ppl skip deadlifts becuz its easy to get hurt and it takes a lot of balls. I was doing them today and like someone said before me, its mind over matter. I had sweat drippin off my face and I didnt wanna do anymore but for each one I did after that my back will reap the benefits. Nothing adds overall mass and power like a deadlift or a squat. I wish I hadnt found this out 4 years down the road from lifting lol.
About the waist thing. If you do deadlifts at the end you dont have to go super super heavy. Shit 100lbs will feel like 300lbs and you can still benefit. I have seen bbers that do deadlifts and have tiny waists. I dont think just becuz you do them you will get a big waist but i guess if u do them at the beginning everytime it might be different.
About the waist thing. If you do deadlifts at the end you dont have to go super super heavy. Shit 100lbs will feel like 300lbs and you can still benefit. I have seen bbers that do deadlifts and have tiny waists. I dont think just becuz you do them you will get a big waist but i guess if u do them at the beginning everytime it might be different.
Hybridtheory2o said:
This is so true, more so because people believe they will get hurt. But I also believe if you try to do back squats regularly without doing deads, you put yourself at an even greater risk. The other day I was showing this dude how to do a proper back squat with just the bar. He only performed these a few times in his life and never did deads. I thought he was gonna kill himself. His lower back couldn't handle the weight of the bar alone.
Tatyana
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I think this is the great thing about being a Fbber, I have gone really light and high reps on a lot of exercises till I know my form is good.
I train in a proper BBing gym, and I don't see many of the lads doing deads. Interestingly, it is mostly the younger ones that are doing them.
I must admit, I only started doing dead lifts quite recently, I have done stiff leg and romanian dead lifts for quite some time though.
I do LOVE them, right now I am doing 60 kg (132 lbs), 4 sets, between 12 - 15 reps on a cutting/low carb diet.
Can't wait till 'off season' and I start doing a 5 x 5
I train in a proper BBing gym, and I don't see many of the lads doing deads. Interestingly, it is mostly the younger ones that are doing them.
I must admit, I only started doing dead lifts quite recently, I have done stiff leg and romanian dead lifts for quite some time though.
I do LOVE them, right now I am doing 60 kg (132 lbs), 4 sets, between 12 - 15 reps on a cutting/low carb diet.
Can't wait till 'off season' and I start doing a 5 x 5
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