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Atomic Punk
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Dave949 said:
So was I. I made references to both if you read what I said again. The point was, that your blanket statement doesn't apply to me. Others agree.
Dave, I don't know what people are like where you train, and I'm assuming based on your location, and the location of prowristwraps, that there's a reason you're pushing the strap idea so hard (not just on this thread, but others), but in MY gym no one uses straps and a lot of the guys hold well over 500 pounds on a regular basis, for both 1-3 rep max movements, as well as higher rep movements (dimels, reverse bands deads, rack pulls, etc...).
If I had to choose between wraps and chalk, I'd take chalk.
I also agree that blanket statements about the effectiveness of certain moves or techniques are faulted by definition (whether it's a front squat or a wrist wrap).
If I had to choose between wraps and chalk, I'd take chalk.
I also agree that blanket statements about the effectiveness of certain moves or techniques are faulted by definition (whether it's a front squat or a wrist wrap).
sinjinsmythe33
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i dont like straps either, but 500 pounds for dimel deadlifts? that is impressive.
Dave949
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Spoken like a true gentleman Spatts and I appreciate your input as well as the civility in your post........
For the record..... I have nothing to do with prowriststraps in any way, shape or form. I only have recommended them because they simply make a quality product. They are located in Virginia, I am located in Southern California. I`m not sure what you were suggesting concerning their location and mine or what the relevancy was.
As far as the type of people who live and train where I live, I don`t have a clue how they train here because I no longer train at a commercial gym. Besides.... I train with what works for me not how the general workout population or the way the "other guys" train. The only places that would be geographically practical for me to train is places like Bally`s or Family Fitness or L.A. Fitness and I just can`t handle those places, so about 5 years ago I turned my garage into my own home gym/dungeon........complete with wrist straps.
Also...I am a newbie on this site. I also have no problem accepting constructive criticism concerning the wording of my posts. Obviously I have to word my responses in a way that they do not come across as blanket statements which appear as though I`m speaking for all. After reading your post and going back and re-reading my original response to the thread starter, it is an obvious broad and blanket statement and should have been worded differently. I stand corrected on my blanket statements. Live and learn.........
However, I will stand by my basic premise for using wrist straps. If my grip strength, for whatever reason is lacking and always seems to lag behind my deadlifts and power cleans, to sacrifice my deadlift and power cleans poundages because wrist straps are un popular and scoffed at by some people would be foolish. Some of us just don`t have good forearms and/or grip power and some things we just cannot change about some muscles no matter what we (I) do and IMHO I can`t see allowing the poor genetics of one bodypart hold back other body parts by not using a simple piece of equipment, aka wrist straps.
For the record..... I have nothing to do with prowriststraps in any way, shape or form. I only have recommended them because they simply make a quality product. They are located in Virginia, I am located in Southern California. I`m not sure what you were suggesting concerning their location and mine or what the relevancy was.
As far as the type of people who live and train where I live, I don`t have a clue how they train here because I no longer train at a commercial gym. Besides.... I train with what works for me not how the general workout population or the way the "other guys" train. The only places that would be geographically practical for me to train is places like Bally`s or Family Fitness or L.A. Fitness and I just can`t handle those places, so about 5 years ago I turned my garage into my own home gym/dungeon........complete with wrist straps.
Also...I am a newbie on this site. I also have no problem accepting constructive criticism concerning the wording of my posts. Obviously I have to word my responses in a way that they do not come across as blanket statements which appear as though I`m speaking for all. After reading your post and going back and re-reading my original response to the thread starter, it is an obvious broad and blanket statement and should have been worded differently. I stand corrected on my blanket statements. Live and learn.........
However, I will stand by my basic premise for using wrist straps. If my grip strength, for whatever reason is lacking and always seems to lag behind my deadlifts and power cleans, to sacrifice my deadlift and power cleans poundages because wrist straps are un popular and scoffed at by some people would be foolish. Some of us just don`t have good forearms and/or grip power and some things we just cannot change about some muscles no matter what we (I) do and IMHO I can`t see allowing the poor genetics of one bodypart hold back other body parts by not using a simple piece of equipment, aka wrist straps.
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quality product or not, imho wrist straps are for the birds. i have never once had a problem with my grip. never has my back been so strong that i cant hold on to the weight. now this may not be the case with most people, but i think wrist straps are counter productive. if you use them all the time, how is your grip going to get stronger. get your hands stronger. strong hands will help you in alot of lifts, like bench press, and even squatting. stop using wrist straps. get a pair of strong hands.
Dave949 said:
*Spatts adjusts herself*
Seriously, I figured you are either sponsored by them, or work for them. If not, you should be.
In asking about what it's like where you train, I was referring to the commercial gym atmosphere. I know at the old "fitness center" I used to train in, the bars were all slicked up pretty chrome with just enough knurling to make them look like barbells. I deadlifted about 100 pounds less there, and used straps once, just to save my poor ego. I like big old rusty bars with knurling that cuts through your hand.
...and some chalk.
Reading back over the thread, it seems that some clarification could be made for the word "straps." There are straps, then there are wraps.
When you have guys in your crew deadlifting 800-900 pounds, a 500 pound dimel is really only 56%-63% of max.
Mike_Rojas
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I think people with small hands might benefit from straps. I've read about some powerlifters that are limited in deadlifts by their hand size.
From http://www.planetmuscle.com/articles/3_3/strongest_man002.html about Paul Anderson:
"Anderson was not much of a deadlifter. By all accounts he made about 725 lbs. to 750 lbs. since his hands and fingers were small and stubby like many others built like him, although he claimed 820 lbs. and actually 1,000 lbs. when he attached special hooks to his hands for his grip!"
I don't use straps myself.
From http://www.planetmuscle.com/articles/3_3/strongest_man002.html about Paul Anderson:
"Anderson was not much of a deadlifter. By all accounts he made about 725 lbs. to 750 lbs. since his hands and fingers were small and stubby like many others built like him, although he claimed 820 lbs. and actually 1,000 lbs. when he attached special hooks to his hands for his grip!"
I don't use straps myself.
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