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Is it me or is everything a secret with DC training. I went to Intense Muscle site and nobody seems to want to give any info. Stickies have been removed and everybody says do a search. I do a search and get the same info that is posted above. The site says a lot of what was in Cycles for Pennies is now outdated. Some questions I have are how many reps do you shoot for on each exercise? Is there a set amount for each? Is it different for each person?
 
combat_action said:
If he gives out all the answers, why would anyone pay for his services?

Yeah I hear ya. But, and don't misunderstand me, I respect guys like DC and Swole, but if you're offering paid services, make it clear. Don't pretend you're hanging around boards to help people when all you're really trying to do is solicit potential customers. I understand it's a business and they're tryin to get paid and make a living like the next guy, but still....I realize this is whee their target customers are, but put up an ad with refernces to go with it. Don't try and pretend like you're here to help others. And don't mistake that. They help others in a big way. I myself have signed up with SC a few times and am VERY glad I did and will always give him a good reference. But the boards were set up so guys would have a place to come and learn and share and better themseleves - free of cost. Now-a-days the these boards are becoming more and more like BB mags. Just a haven for advertisers - Protein companies, research companies, how to get laid as soon as you turn off your CP books. And while these can get annoying, they're understandable. They help pay the bills to help keep the boards running. But there are two different kinds of bros 'round these parts. Guys like (for example) RADAR, The Machine, and Mr. X to name a few,who say hey, "you want advice, I can give it to you and help you out if you're willing to listen, that's what we're here for." And then you have guys like SC and DC (and This isn't a blatant diss, although I know I'm gonna ruffle some feathers for telling it like it is here), who hang around the boards talking about how they're here to help you, and then when you say okay what kind of advice to you have to offer, they put there hand out before saying anything else.

Now please, like I said, I am not trying to disrespect anyone here. Be it SC or DC or whoever. I respect them both, they know their shit and have the a lot to offer. But what they're offering should be put in the banner ads and not go to the discussion areas for apparent reason. And if you got beef with what I said, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you wanna post something in reply to what I've said, do me a favor and just read everything I've said over once more before you do so.
 
I just did a 10 week Max-OT cycle, and now it's time to switch gears. This DC thing looks good, maybe I'll give it a shot for 6-8 weeks. Can someone tell me what a "static hold" is? And how does one do a static hold?
 
I agree with what you're saying slider. However, if someone was to run an actual search in both the dogg pound and the journals section, they will find every answer to their questions. I've been a member over there for a long time and everyday there are the same regurgitated questions over and over again. Now, most will just answer someone by saying, "Use the search function". I consider myself lucky because I have all the info, but I know [almost] every shred of the info I have is found in the journal section.
 
Update on DC training: I focused most of the attention on my legs because I felt I was weakest in that area. Every 4 days I added 5-10 lbs. to my squat. I am now ready for 175 lbs. 1x20. That means I went from barely aching out 135 lbs. 1x20 3 weeks ago to easily repping out 165 lbs. 1x20 3 days ago. 175 seems like it will be just fine. At this point my legs have grown immensely. My gf always tells me my jeans are skin tight around my legs and I have to smile. She has never said that before. I was stupid and didn't take a measurement before the training, but I would have to guess I have put 1.5-2 inches on my legs in 3 weeks. I am of course including SLDL, ham curls, and front squats into the equation, but none have progressed, nor have I put as much effort into them, as much as squats. The rest of my workouts have inched up very slowly, but no where near as noticable as the legs. This is truly a great routine, and I would suggest it to anyone who feels they are stuck right now.
 
I can tell you as a trainee of DC, there is not much "hidden" about the training. Search thoroughly enough and you will find it all. However, diet is a different story. You will be hard pressed to find any of the diet information anywhere. Not only is the most cruical aspect, but it is also the only "secret". Dante has reached far above any trainer that I am aware of in helping people for nothing in return aside from the usual bashing he receives from those that disagree with him.

As far as the stickies being removed - read the link "Where Are the stickies".

Trainees complained and some people took it upon themselves to attempt to train people from the knowledge gained on IM.
 
My problem I think in finding information is, there is not that much information to find. I guess I was looking for a thread like the 5x5 thread here. There isnt a lot to the routine it seems, which I like. I was looking for a set amount of reps for each goup of exercises and it looks like it varies from person to person but still within a close range.
 
slyder190 said:
Yeah I hear ya. But, and don't misunderstand me, I respect guys like DC and Swole, but if you're offering paid services, make it clear. Don't pretend you're hanging around boards to help people when all you're really trying to do is solicit potential customers. I understand it's a business and they're tryin to get paid and make a living like the next guy, but still....I realize this is whee their target customers are, but put up an ad with refernces to go with it. Don't try and pretend like you're here to help others. And don't mistake that. They help others in a big way. I myself have signed up with SC a few times and am VERY glad I did and will always give him a good reference. But the boards were set up so guys would have a place to come and learn and share and better themseleves - free of cost. Now-a-days the these boards are becoming more and more like BB mags. Just a haven for advertisers - Protein companies, research companies, how to get laid as soon as you turn off your CP books. And while these can get annoying, they're understandable. They help pay the bills to help keep the boards running. But there are two different kinds of bros 'round these parts. Guys like (for example) RADAR, The Machine, and Mr. X to name a few,who say hey, "you want advice, I can give it to you and help you out if you're willing to listen, that's what we're here for." And then you have guys like SC and DC (and This isn't a blatant diss, although I know I'm gonna ruffle some feathers for telling it like it is here), who hang around the boards talking about how they're here to help you, and then when you say okay what kind of advice to you have to offer, they put there hand out before saying anything else.

Now please, like I said, I am not trying to disrespect anyone here. Be it SC or DC or whoever. I respect them both, they know their shit and have the a lot to offer. But what they're offering should be put in the banner ads and not go to the discussion areas for apparent reason. And if you got beef with what I said, you're entitled to your opinion, but if you wanna post something in reply to what I've said, do me a favor and just read everything I've said over once more before you do so.


I understand what you mean, but remember at one time DC did give his information away for free. Even information on diet was out there because he put it out. Granted the diet is very individualized for each trainee, and that is why there is no set in stone diet plan, outside of very high protein intake and carb cutoffs. That information is key to DC, but amounts and timing differ for every trainee, and the diet is a large part of what people pay Dante for. But even so at one time he was helping people on the boards with training and dieting to a certain extent. But he finally became tired of his paying trainees complaining and getting flamed for his ideas all the time by 16 year old BB.com'ers. The last straw came when he discovered one of his trainees was selling the information DC was giving him. This violated his trainer/client confidentiality agreement, and thus he took down all of the stickies. I cant blame him for this as it was not the first time he was screwed over. He is a nice guy and a great trainer with a system that flat out works, but he was too nice with his information. I don't send the files I have to anyone out of respect for Dante, but others do and that is ok, as much of the info has been outdated. Dante is in the process of rewriting the stickies and at some point they will be reposted, just not with all of the information they once had.
 
spatts said:
Originally posted by Debasser:

TRAINING

Cycling for pennies

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more training info

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What's going on with these links? If you haven't seen them, they explain in good detail the theory of Dogg Pound Training. Think of them as Dogg Pound Training 101. I was using these links earlier in the day and now they're dead. Did Dogg order EliteFitness to delete them? It'd be a damn shame if they don't come back. Somebody should have made them a sticky. Oh well, good thing I printed two of them out.

When you link onto them you get this message:

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