Dbol or Sust????

[skippa]

I'm planning on doing a bulking cycle this winter. I'm having a hard time deciding between using Sust or Dbol. I'm gonna be using Tren at a low dose to keep my water retention down. So it's either a Sust/Tren cycle, or a Dbol/Tren cycle. I can get either, but I'm not sure which is better. My goal is to gain mass that I will be able to keep easily. For that reason, I'm thinking Sust is a better option. Since I hear that Dbol gains can leave you quick when you go off it. Looking for any opinions you guys have on this. Thanks

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

I'm planning on doing a bulking cycle this winter. I'm having a hard time deciding between using Sust or Dbol. I'm gonna be using Tren at a low dose to keep my water retention down. So it's either a Sust/Tren cycle, or a Dbol/Tren cycle. I can get either, but I'm not sure which is better. My goal is to gain mass that I will be able to keep easily. For that reason, I'm thinking Sust is a better option. Since I hear that Dbol gains can leave you quick when you go off it. Looking for any opinions you guys have on this. Thanks

I would do both the dbol and sust. Here is what my current stack looks like.

Weeks 1-12 Sust 250 @ twice a week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50mg/ed
Obviously PCT
I think you could work the tren in but it might be counter productive it you are trying to bulk up. I would ask one of the pro's around here to be sure.

 

[shawnerk]

Bof if it were me. IMHO. Good luck and bump for other advise.

 

[ryan04]

Tren is not going to keep water retention down if your running sust and/or dbol...you need to run adex or nolva for that. Tren can be used for bulking or cutting, running it while bulking will not be counterproductive. Tren and test is one of the best cycles you can do. If you run only dbol, you'll lose most of your gains once you come off because alot of it is just water (not all). I would run something like this:

1-12: 500 mgs sust e.w.
1-4: 30 mgs dbol e.d.
1-8: 75 mgs tren acetate e.o.d. if it's your 1st, 75 mgs e.d. if you've done a few cycles

Good luck bro.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

^ I would do it just like mentioned above.

 

[swordfish151]

Tren is not going to keep water retention down if your running sust and/or dbol...you need to run adex or nolva for that. Tren can be used for bulking or cutting, running it while bulking will not be counterproductive. Tren and test is one of the best cycles you can do. If you run only dbol, you'll lose most of your gains once you come off because alot of it is just water (not all). I would run something like this:

1-12: 500 mgs sust e.w.
1-4: 30 mgs dbol e.d.
1-8: 75 mgs tren acetate e.o.d. if it's your 1st, 75 mgs e.d. if you've done a few cycles

Good luck bro.

took the words right out of my mouth. I agree.

 

[Prizz]

Tren won't keep the water rention down? I thought Tren would act as an Anti-aromatase in a cycle like that? Can't say I've run Tren with bulking type drugs, but I'm curious to know if it would decrease water retention. If not, why is that?

rizz

 

[digimon7068]

I'm planning on doing a bulking cycle this winter. I'm having a hard time deciding between using Sust or Dbol. I'm gonna be using Tren at a low dose to keep my water retention down. So it's either a Sust/Tren cycle, or a Dbol/Tren cycle. I can get either, but I'm not sure which is better. My goal is to gain mass that I will be able to keep easily. For that reason, I'm thinking Sust is a better option. Since I hear that Dbol gains can leave you quick when you go off it. Looking for any opinions you guys have on this. Thanks

If it's one or the other, I say sust. Tren's kidney toxic and dbol's liver toxic. Why stress two organs at the same time?

Personally, I'd forget the tren and go with dbol and sust. Use the dbol for the first 4 to 6 weeks and control the bloat with nolva, etc.

 

[ryan04]

Tren itself does not aromatize and won't cause any water retention, but it will not keep other substances, i.e. test/dbol, from causing water retention. Just run some anti-e's bro and you won't have any problems in that department. Oh yeah, tren is known to cause serious limp-dick syndrome, so running test with it (and I think just about everyone on this board will agree with this) is a wise decision...VERY WISE!