dbol only first time???

[BENCH_PRESS]

Hi new to the site and needing help choosing the rite path!

I'm 25 5ft8 and 167lbs, been going to the gym for nearly 4 years, now am looking for those extra gains. My friend can get me sum dbol tablets, as i want do a dbol only cycle but i asked him about anything for the PCT, but he said he's never done a PCT, and everythings been okay? A've done my research and people do say PCT is a must but some people say they don't do it, it just takes a bit longer for your test 2 go bk 2 normal? The thing is i don't know where 2 get nolvadex or clomid by person and don't trust sum of the sites 2 buy from, so what do u think about not doing a PCT? How would not doing it affect me after a steady 30mg e/d 6week course?

 

[C.K.]

30 mgs is just enough to see good gains and not get the bloat or other sides ofcourse pct is a must (hcgenerate & unleashed) are 2 of the best things around... dont know where to get it? Just click on it!

 

[joe d]

20-25mg dbol ed and 3 caps unleashed ed for 8 weeks
then the day after your last dbol dose start pct

pct
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 20/20/20/20
hcgenerate 5 caps ed
unleashed 3 caps ed

while on cycle up your prot, carbs, and water. also make sure your eating plenty of mixed berries.

 

[HAYEZ]

I always wondered why new members used the formatting to type..lol

nolvadex is best to use and you can get it from many research sites just google it...i dont like orals at all...but if its all you got go for it

 

[stevesmi]

expect to lose almost all your gains from dbol without a PCT. and do what joe said, he is the pro on dbol.

and also he is saying lots of berries to help your liver.. I would definately take liver support with it as well.

 

[RADAR]

Hi new to the site and needing help choosing the rite path!

I'm 25 5ft8 and 167lbs, been going to the gym for nearly 4 years, now am looking for those extra gains. My friend can get me sum dbol tablets, as i want do a dbol only cycle but i asked him about anything for the PCT, but he said he's never done a PCT, and everythings been okay? A've done my research and people do say PCT is a must but some people say they don't do it, it just takes a bit longer for your test 2 go bk 2 normal? The thing is i don't know where 2 get nolvadex or clomid by person and don't trust sum of the sites 2 buy from, so what do u think about not doing a PCT? How would not doing it affect me after a steady 30mg e/d 6week course?

I've ran 100's of Dbol cycles,the thing about them is you can run them hard and short (6 Wks) or low and long ( +12 wks)
I'e done both ,but for a beginner i would suggest a short weeker to see how your body handles it!

 

[ArmaniAK47]

expect to lose almost all your gains from dbol without a PCT. and do what joe said, he is the pro on dbol.

and also he is saying lots of berries to help your liver.. I would definately take liver support with it as well.

Bullshit.

My first cycle was 10mg of Dbol a day for a month.
My gains were great and I kept almost all of it, no PCT.

The real problem is that even if your natural hormones are back you just can't sustain the muscle you have on 25mgs of Dbol a day..

The real trick is changing your ongoing hormone levels to accommodate extra muscle.

Remember; Dbol is much stronger/active for muscle growth than testosterone is, per mg.. Natural men produce 3-11mgs of testosterone a day.. some of which aromatizes, some reduces and some is bound by SHBG.. How can you expect to keep the muscle 25mgs of Dbol gives you- even at 11mgs of test a day? that's less than half the dose and it's less active.. and it get's snagged by all these other processes more readily.

My program is one that alters my foundation hormone levels to try and accommodate the size/strength/etc I want. I'm currently on permanent TRT delivering about 20mgs of testosterone a day.. I will increase this to somewhere in the 30-50mgs/day range probably, then cycle drugs that can build a would-be "tolerance."
--Like Dbol.

 

[joe13]

The real trick is changing your ongoing hormone levels to accommodate extra muscle.

Remember; Dbol is much stronger/active for muscle growth than testosterone is, per mg.. Natural men produce 3-11mgs of testosterone a day.. some of which aromatizes, some reduces and some is bound by SHBG.. How can you expect to keep the muscle 25mgs of Dbol gives you- even at 11mgs of test a day? that's less than half the dose and it's less active.. and it get's snagged by all these other processes more readily.

My program is one that alters my foundation hormone levels to try and accommodate the size/strength/etc I want. I'm currently on permanent TRT delivering about 20mgs of testosterone a day.. I will increase this to somewhere in the 30-50mgs/day range probably, then cycle drugs that can build a would-be "tolerance."
--Like Dbol.

Hmmmm... really interesting. Would you mind elaborating more on this?

TIA

 

[joe d]

Bullshit.

My first cycle was 10mg of Dbol a day for a month.
My gains were great and I kept almost all of it, no PCT.

The real problem is that even if your natural hormones are back you just can't sustain the muscle you have on 25mgs of Dbol a day..

The real trick is changing your ongoing hormone levels to accommodate extra muscle.

Remember; Dbol is much stronger/active for muscle growth than testosterone is, per mg.. Natural men produce 3-11mgs of testosterone a day.. some of which aromatizes, some reduces and some is bound by SHBG.. How can you expect to keep the muscle 25mgs of Dbol gives you- even at 11mgs of test a day? that's less than half the dose and it's less active.. and it get's snagged by all these other processes more readily.

My program is one that alters my foundation hormone levels to try and accommodate the size/strength/etc I want. I'm currently on permanent TRT delivering about 20mgs of testosterone a day.. I will increase this to somewhere in the 30-50mgs/day range probably, then cycle drugs that can build a would-be "tolerance."
--Like Dbol.

this is not the case for everyone. i have ran 50mg dbol only for 4 weeks and kept the muscle just fine. ive also run 20mg for 8 weeks and kept that muscle fine to.

 

[HAYEZ]

longer ur hpta takes to rebound more muscle u lose...armani i like ya ur as wreckless as me..lol but you prob kept most them gains because u were far below ur genetic max back then...

now any cycle i get if i get a few lbs on something cool...lol but my body is broken and abused...muscle doesnt want to stick around for some reason... or maybe its the mcdonalds i ate 5 times yesterday and wendys and subway...lol

 

[stevesmi]

Bullshit.

My first cycle was 10mg of Dbol a day for a month.
My gains were great and I kept almost all of it, no PCT.

The real problem is that even if your natural hormones are back you just can't sustain the muscle you have on 25mgs of Dbol a day..

The real trick is changing your ongoing hormone levels to accommodate extra muscle.

Remember; Dbol is much stronger/active for muscle growth than testosterone is, per mg.. Natural men produce 3-11mgs of testosterone a day.. some of which aromatizes, some reduces and some is bound by SHBG.. How can you expect to keep the muscle 25mgs of Dbol gives you- even at 11mgs of test a day? that's less than half the dose and it's less active.. and it get's snagged by all these other processes more readily.

My program is one that alters my foundation hormone levels to try and accommodate the size/strength/etc I want. I'm currently on permanent TRT delivering about 20mgs of testosterone a day.. I will increase this to somewhere in the 30-50mgs/day range probably, then cycle drugs that can build a would-be "tolerance."
--Like Dbol.

you were far below your genetic potential or you were a rare case. for most of us you take a dbol only cycle i promise you will lose almost all of those gains without a PCT.

 

[RADAR]

i've never lost muscle on a dbol cycle, you have to increase calories to feed those new muscles.