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Dbol oNLY Cycle??

Dbol only at this point will hurt you more than it helps in the long run. But you're gonna do whatever you want, so go for it. Just expect to lose most, if not all your gains and have a lot of zits when you go off. At the very least you should get a locker in a bowling alley or something to stash a bottle of test and pins. That way you can stop by once a week, shoot up in a bathroom stall and leave. Adding 200 mgs/wk of test to your proposed dbol only cycle with proper pct will make a huge difference with what you retain.
 
mike12 said:
ok i know its not what u call "A REAL CYCLE"..



What do you mean its not a real cycle......Dbol is a steroid just like all others.
A Dbol cycle is Fine.drink plenty of water,milk thistle (check out nutritionexpress.com for lindberg milk thistle)
6-8 weeks is fine you may want to get some AIFM from the AF store for ancillaries.


RADAR
 
BigCracker said:
Dbol only at this point will hurt you more than it helps in the long run. But you're gonna do whatever you want, so go for it. Just expect to lose most, if not all your gains and have a lot of zits when you go off. At the very least you should get a locker in a bowling alley or something to stash a bottle of test and pins. That way you can stop by once a week, shoot up in a bathroom stall and leave. Adding 200 mgs/wk of test to your proposed dbol only cycle with proper pct will make a huge difference with what you retain.


One thing I don't care for about this post is you saying that he's going to get zits when he goes off. Where does that come from? I have taken as much as 100mg of dbol a day, and never had a zit problem. Side effects from different compounds are very individualized. I didn't even hardly have any zits in High School. If you have "track shoe face" from extreme acne, then chances are you are prone to it if you juice. By and large, zits are a very small side effect in the scope of things.
I would say I get more zits from Clomid than anything else.
 
marshallmadman said:
One thing I don't care for about this post is you saying that he's going to get zits when he goes off. Where does that come from? I have taken as much as 100mg of dbol a day, and never had a zit problem. Side effects from different compounds are very individualized. I didn't even hardly have any zits in High School. If you have "track shoe face" from extreme acne, then chances are you are prone to it if you juice. By and large, zits are a very small side effect in the scope of things.
I would say I get more zits from Clomid than anything else.


Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. Most guys I know get zits from dbol-perhaps you're an exception? I'm also assuming this guy is 20 yrs old eating the shit foods his parents provide him with as opposed to older guys that go to the grocery store themselves and hopefully pick healthier alternatives than Hot Pockets. I'm also assuming this guy doesn't drink a gallon of water a day to flush his system. Agreed, these are all assumptions, but they are based on his immature choice to use roids at such a young age and his need to hide it from his family. Could I be wrong? Sure I could, but to say that zits are a trivial side effect is ridiculous-maybe in comparison to liver failure? However, try going to the pool with a pizza back and grossing out chicks or spraying your zit juice all over the incline bench at the gym and you might feel otherwise. This guy is just another roid puppy wannabe that thinks dbol is going to make him into some super athlete. So I'm not going to be very supportive. I'm sure he appreciates your reach around though. You guys should sleep over at each other's houses and have pillow fights, make prank phone calls, and ding dong ditch the neighbors at 3AM.
 
BigCracker said:
Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. Most guys I know get zits from dbol-perhaps you're an exception? I'm also assuming this guy is 20 yrs old eating the shit foods his parents provide him with as opposed to older guys that go to the grocery store themselves and hopefully pick healthier alternatives than Hot Pockets. I'm also assuming this guy doesn't drink a gallon of water a day to flush his system. Agreed, these are all assumptions, but they are based on his immature choice to use roids at such a young age and his need to hide it from his family. Could I be wrong? Sure I could, but to say that zits are a trivial side effect is ridiculous-maybe in comparison to liver failure? However, try going to the pool with a pizza back and grossing out chicks or spraying your zit juice all over the incline bench at the gym and you might feel otherwise. This guy is just another roid puppy wannabe that thinks dbol is going to make him into some super athlete. So I'm not going to be very supportive. I'm sure he appreciates your reach around though. You guys should sleep over at each other's houses and have pillow fights, make prank phone calls, and ding dong ditch the neighbors at 3AM.

I'm also zit free and have been in the past when even on 40mg of dbol a day. Then i have friends who are on sus-cyp-test e and almost all got zits like they're 20 again. Funny u say "spray zit juice" cause i cringe when i'm after them on bench carrying my towel around so i don't get ringworm...
 
Mike,

If you're training for football, 20, and 195lbs, I'm assuming you're not a lineman. I'm also assuming your routine is going to involve explosive strength training as well as general weight lifting. Dbol is not the best compound you want to use. If your situation at home makes you nervous about doing injects, look into Tbol. I would also recommend anavar, but you say you don't want to shell out a whole lot of cash.

Tbol will yield smaller gains, but you can put on 5-10 lbs if your diet is good. You also won't have to deal with the bloat of dbol or the calf pumps which will cripple you during any kind of running.
 
If you're going to do it, you need to be blockng the d-bol from converting into methyl-estradiol.

I'd use AIFM to do this. I would not use dbol without an AI.

Minimizing this would, in my opinion, allow you to do a 4 week cycle without using the serms (nolva + clomid) you mentioned.

If none of this makes sense to you, here's the research you didn't do:

1. Dbol converts into a nasty form of estrogen that bloats you up, and fools dopes into thinking their getting jacked. This estrogen is bad, and can make you lose any muscle you gained, because it stays in your system longer. The AIFM should prevent this, rendering DBol into an entirely differently acting compound. Some may not agree with my last sentence.

2. Nolva and clomid are not allowed to be questioned by online experts (guys who repeat stuff strangers wrote on the internet) but I don't like them. Clomid can fuck with your vision, and nolva has been refered to as a carcinogen. Unless you get breast cancer, avoid the breast cancer drugs. They can fuck up your skin, too.

3. If you use this in shorter bursts (4 weeks) you'll minimize liver strain and shutting down your own test production. This is good. Use the AIFM and skip the Serms, and you won't grow boobs.

4. This stuff all effects everyone differently. Meaning what worked for your buddy may not work for you.
 
marshallmadman said:
Gotta go with the master on this one too. A dbol only cycle is usually everyone's first foray into the world of anabolics. It can really work magic if you do it right.

Agreed. Plus, I've used it as a stand alone while leaning out for summer. . .25 mg ed in divided doses. . .three weeks on, three weeks off (with an abbreviated PCT regimen during off weeks), etc. for a couple of months and it worked great at helping me retain some quality muscle while burning fat. Great substance!
 
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