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Dbol oNLY Cycle??

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mike12

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hi im new to EF i've been working out natural for about 3 years now and at 195lbs at 6"1 seems like i've hit a wall and i cant get past, guess im turning to roids now. Aftwer months of research cuz everytime i post something on BB.com they tell me go do more research so now i dont think my brain can handle anymore info on steroids..lool but nyweays heres my cycle I kno everyone is telling me to not do dbol only cycle but honeslty i hav to choice im 20 yrs old livin with my parents stuill and i cant hav them find out and its always easie rto hide pills then injections and i dont have a very big wallet so plz understand and jus tell me how to make the best of what i have... and honeslty from all the other past posts i've read on elitfitness u guys r way betetr at giving ppl advice then bodybuilding.com and i reely mean that.. nyways im writing too much heres what i have planned let me kno anyhting good, bad comments thanks alot..

DBOL
30MG/DAY
WEEK 1-5
10MG/TABLETS
MORNING/LUNCH/DINNER

NOLVADEX
20MG/DAY
WEEK 1 TO END
EVERYDAY 20MG/DAY UNTILL END OF CLOMID

CLOMID
DAY 1: 200MG/DAY
WEEK 6 TO WEEK 7: 100MG/DAY
WEEK 8+: 50MG/DAY UNTILL ALL FINISHED
 
KD1 said:
Wait a few years till you can do a real cycle.
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good call. every site i've been on says first cycle is the best. either hide that shit good and get some injects or save it till you do. injects are cheaper than pills anyways. i just spent twice as much on Var Pills than two bottles of test cost me. and then i bought some tbols and those cost me about 1.25X as much as the two bottles of test. and pins are dirt cheap. youll make much more gains off shooting than a month of dbol. my brothers ran dbol 3X. they just stopped taking it this time cause it was making them feel sick. they're running EQ, Deca, so i got them some omnadren and they dropped the dbol. i made more gains on var anyway than they did on dbol, maybe not size gains but i made strength gains up the ass bro. and now my test E is kicking in and im already strong as fuck and im just gonna get tons stronger. run some injects dude. you can't go wrong, but don't get busted. get your own place. and your only 20 anyways so many guys here will tell you your too young. just my opinion as im on my first cycle, my brother is on his third and good friend on his third and have a good friend who has been cycling for 10 years. but he thinks tren was a good idea for a first cycle. im glad ef was here and straightened me out there, i woulda been in trouble. but im thinking of running it on my next one. tren sounds like the shit
 
ok i kno its not what u call "A REAL CYCLE" but like I said i dont have the ability to do injections right now and i really need to gain some weight for football in september.. even thou u guys dont recomend it do u think my cycle is pretty safe atleast.. like i know ppl that have dont dbol only cycles and obviously lost some pounds in the end but with proper PCT and nolvadex throughout the whole cycle minimized water retention and also im taking milk thisle..
 
Gotta go with the master on this one too. A dbol only cycle is usually everyone's first foray into the world of anabolics. It can really work magic if you do it right.
 
Dbol only at this point will hurt you more than it helps in the long run. But you're gonna do whatever you want, so go for it. Just expect to lose most, if not all your gains and have a lot of zits when you go off. At the very least you should get a locker in a bowling alley or something to stash a bottle of test and pins. That way you can stop by once a week, shoot up in a bathroom stall and leave. Adding 200 mgs/wk of test to your proposed dbol only cycle with proper pct will make a huge difference with what you retain.
 
mike12 said:
ok i know its not what u call "A REAL CYCLE"..
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What do you mean its not a real cycle......Dbol is a steroid just like all others.
A Dbol cycle is Fine.drink plenty of water,milk thistle (check out nutritionexpress.com for lindberg milk thistle)
6-8 weeks is fine you may want to get some AIFM from the AF store for ancillaries.


RADAR
 
BigCracker said:
Dbol only at this point will hurt you more than it helps in the long run. But you're gonna do whatever you want, so go for it. Just expect to lose most, if not all your gains and have a lot of zits when you go off. At the very least you should get a locker in a bowling alley or something to stash a bottle of test and pins. That way you can stop by once a week, shoot up in a bathroom stall and leave. Adding 200 mgs/wk of test to your proposed dbol only cycle with proper pct will make a huge difference with what you retain.
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One thing I don't care for about this post is you saying that he's going to get zits when he goes off. Where does that come from? I have taken as much as 100mg of dbol a day, and never had a zit problem. Side effects from different compounds are very individualized. I didn't even hardly have any zits in High School. If you have "track shoe face" from extreme acne, then chances are you are prone to it if you juice. By and large, zits are a very small side effect in the scope of things.
I would say I get more zits from Clomid than anything else.
 
marshallmadman said:
One thing I don't care for about this post is you saying that he's going to get zits when he goes off. Where does that come from? I have taken as much as 100mg of dbol a day, and never had a zit problem. Side effects from different compounds are very individualized. I didn't even hardly have any zits in High School. If you have "track shoe face" from extreme acne, then chances are you are prone to it if you juice. By and large, zits are a very small side effect in the scope of things.
I would say I get more zits from Clomid than anything else.
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Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. Most guys I know get zits from dbol-perhaps you're an exception? I'm also assuming this guy is 20 yrs old eating the shit foods his parents provide him with as opposed to older guys that go to the grocery store themselves and hopefully pick healthier alternatives than Hot Pockets. I'm also assuming this guy doesn't drink a gallon of water a day to flush his system. Agreed, these are all assumptions, but they are based on his immature choice to use roids at such a young age and his need to hide it from his family. Could I be wrong? Sure I could, but to say that zits are a trivial side effect is ridiculous-maybe in comparison to liver failure? However, try going to the pool with a pizza back and grossing out chicks or spraying your zit juice all over the incline bench at the gym and you might feel otherwise. This guy is just another roid puppy wannabe that thinks dbol is going to make him into some super athlete. So I'm not going to be very supportive. I'm sure he appreciates your reach around though. You guys should sleep over at each other's houses and have pillow fights, make prank phone calls, and ding dong ditch the neighbors at 3AM.
 
BigCracker said:
Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. Most guys I know get zits from dbol-perhaps you're an exception? I'm also assuming this guy is 20 yrs old eating the shit foods his parents provide him with as opposed to older guys that go to the grocery store themselves and hopefully pick healthier alternatives than Hot Pockets. I'm also assuming this guy doesn't drink a gallon of water a day to flush his system. Agreed, these are all assumptions, but they are based on his immature choice to use roids at such a young age and his need to hide it from his family. Could I be wrong? Sure I could, but to say that zits are a trivial side effect is ridiculous-maybe in comparison to liver failure? However, try going to the pool with a pizza back and grossing out chicks or spraying your zit juice all over the incline bench at the gym and you might feel otherwise. This guy is just another roid puppy wannabe that thinks dbol is going to make him into some super athlete. So I'm not going to be very supportive. I'm sure he appreciates your reach around though. You guys should sleep over at each other's houses and have pillow fights, make prank phone calls, and ding dong ditch the neighbors at 3AM.
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I'm also zit free and have been in the past when even on 40mg of dbol a day. Then i have friends who are on sus-cyp-test e and almost all got zits like they're 20 again. Funny u say "spray zit juice" cause i cringe when i'm after them on bench carrying my towel around so i don't get ringworm...
 
Mike,

If you're training for football, 20, and 195lbs, I'm assuming you're not a lineman. I'm also assuming your routine is going to involve explosive strength training as well as general weight lifting. Dbol is not the best compound you want to use. If your situation at home makes you nervous about doing injects, look into Tbol. I would also recommend anavar, but you say you don't want to shell out a whole lot of cash.

Tbol will yield smaller gains, but you can put on 5-10 lbs if your diet is good. You also won't have to deal with the bloat of dbol or the calf pumps which will cripple you during any kind of running.
 
If you're going to do it, you need to be blockng the d-bol from converting into methyl-estradiol.

I'd use AIFM to do this. I would not use dbol without an AI.

Minimizing this would, in my opinion, allow you to do a 4 week cycle without using the serms (nolva + clomid) you mentioned.

If none of this makes sense to you, here's the research you didn't do:

1. Dbol converts into a nasty form of estrogen that bloats you up, and fools dopes into thinking their getting jacked. This estrogen is bad, and can make you lose any muscle you gained, because it stays in your system longer. The AIFM should prevent this, rendering DBol into an entirely differently acting compound. Some may not agree with my last sentence.

2. Nolva and clomid are not allowed to be questioned by online experts (guys who repeat stuff strangers wrote on the internet) but I don't like them. Clomid can fuck with your vision, and nolva has been refered to as a carcinogen. Unless you get breast cancer, avoid the breast cancer drugs. They can fuck up your skin, too.

3. If you use this in shorter bursts (4 weeks) you'll minimize liver strain and shutting down your own test production. This is good. Use the AIFM and skip the Serms, and you won't grow boobs.

4. This stuff all effects everyone differently. Meaning what worked for your buddy may not work for you.
 
marshallmadman said:
Gotta go with the master on this one too. A dbol only cycle is usually everyone's first foray into the world of anabolics. It can really work magic if you do it right.
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Agreed. Plus, I've used it as a stand alone while leaning out for summer. . .25 mg ed in divided doses. . .three weeks on, three weeks off (with an abbreviated PCT regimen during off weeks), etc. for a couple of months and it worked great at helping me retain some quality muscle while burning fat. Great substance!
 
*The Master* said:
Just shows how DOGMATIC these forums can get.
Board PARROTING!
Dianabol has always worked--don't think it will stop working NOW..:)
However--people usually get angry at the DBOL ONLY cycle because there ARE MUCH BETTER CYCLES to be done.
Having said that--you can still make GAINS on Dianabol.
Great thread!
[R]
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Funny you say board parroting, cause you and four other dudes just said the exact same thing, which in this kid's situation will not help him. Dbol is a shitty steroid for any athlete training for explosion. If he was a lineman I'd say knock himself out. If he plays any other position, it is a poor choice.

Bigcracker was the only one who said anything pertaining the guy's situation. The rest of you just have your blinders on. Apply his compound of choice to his situation. Don't give him advice like he's in a vacuum.
 
ive heard a lot of peple do good gais in d-boll BUT u have to do your diet as perfect as u can, train right and rest. Do a good pct and and i think it would be good. I mean steroid is a steroid if u loose ure gains then its your own fault because you didnt do what u supposed to do. If would also reccomend some proviron to block the water retention. dont forgett u have tto train even harder after the cycle and eat good good to maintain your gains
 
*The Master* said:
LOL--
So Dianabol DOES NOT* increase athletic performace?
You MUST be smoking CRACK, or snorting your FINA.
[R]
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No, I didn't say it doesn't increase athletic performance. That, again, would be applying a principle to a vacuum, which is what you just did again.

In his situation, dbol is the wrong compound for him to use. I'm not going to argue. You may have alot of experience jamming whatever crap you please in your body to get bigger, I have experience which directly applies to his situation. So he can take my advice or not. I just want him to be aware that multiple people posting an opinion does not necessarily make it the correct one.

Mike, read up on Turinabol or Anavar. You'll probably find them a better fit for what you're trying to achieve. Then make your choice.
 
I have to spread some karma around before I give it to BigCracker again. Dammit! I was going to karmafy your ass for that post. Very cute. I actually lauhed out loud. Did I piss you off?


BigCracker said:
Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. Most guys I know get zits from dbol-perhaps you're an exception? I'm also assuming this guy is 20 yrs old eating the shit foods his parents provide him with as opposed to older guys that go to the grocery store themselves and hopefully pick healthier alternatives than Hot Pockets. I'm also assuming this guy doesn't drink a gallon of water a day to flush his system. Agreed, these are all assumptions, but they are based on his immature choice to use roids at such a young age and his need to hide it from his family. Could I be wrong? Sure I could, but to say that zits are a trivial side effect is ridiculous-maybe in comparison to liver failure? However, try going to the pool with a pizza back and grossing out chicks or spraying your zit juice all over the incline bench at the gym and you might feel otherwise. This guy is just another roid puppy wannabe that thinks dbol is going to make him into some super athlete. So I'm not going to be very supportive. I'm sure he appreciates your reach around though. You guys should sleep over at each other's houses and have pillow fights, make prank phone calls, and ding dong ditch the neighbors at 3AM.
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*The Master* said:
LOL--the kid is 20 years old. He didn't even STATE his ATHLETIC goal. He simply stated he needed to increase his athletic performance for football.
[R]
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Semantics. A 20 year old at 195lbs isn't going to be a lineman. Anyone who played knows which positions he's probably going for.

What's wrong Ross, did you already PM him trying to sell him dbol? Am I getting in the way of a sale?
 
marshallmadman said:
I have to spread some karma around before I give it to BigCracker again. Dammit! I was going to karmafy your ass for that post. Very cute. I actually lauhed out loud. Did I piss you off?
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Nah bra, I don't get pissed very easily. If I was pissed I'd sneak in your house while you were gone and take a dump between your box spring and top mattress. After wiping my ass w/ a pillow case, I'd stick that in there too and replace everything as it was. I wonder how long it would take for you to figure out where the smell is coming from?

BTW-I was definitely not the guy to let into your house party in high school.
 
LOL, madman and cracker throwin bows on the dbol only cycle.

I guess you are both right somewhat tho. being dbol I bet he loses almost every bit of the weight and strength he gains, but I on the other hand I have seen some guys run dbol only and make productive gains.

so much test floatin around on the boards haha
 
and plus is there some certain nolvadex and clomid company thats better than the others?? ex. for dbol im using british dragon whats a nolvadex/clomid company??
thanks
 
sorry about all thewse qwuestions... how long should i take clomid for after a dbol onyl cyle??? Just two weeks is ok.. or a bit more??
 
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