dbol/deca/test cycle what ya think

[benapollo]

Hi,

I am 23 196 about 15% bf (did a test and it said 13 don't believe it though) I will be getting this down to 12-13 before starting the cycle. I eat good but not excellent but I will be getting this more in check over the coming weeks (cutting hours down at work). I have trained for a number of years and have been 216lbs but would probably have been about 18% bf if I am honest. My main mistakes were diet which I have done a lot of research on and am much more informed.

I am hoping to put on some lean muscle and a bit of weight. My ideal goals are to be 210lbs and below 10% bf, I don’t expect to do this straight away but it was I am building up to.

I have done a lot of research and would like to thank everyone for all there threads.

Here is my upcoming cycle (this will be my 1st cycle)

Dbol wks 1-4 30mgs ed
Test eth wks 1-10 500mgs/week
Deca wks 1-10 250mgs/week

Then PCT clomid as explained in the PCT thread I will also get some HCG

I have looked at many cycles and this seems to be a favorite bulking cycle I don’t plan on doing another cycle for at least 4 months maybe 6.

Do you think this is too much for a first cycle I have read a lot of bros say just the deca or EQ and the test eth or sust 250 and not the dbol is enough for the first cycle.

As for training I will be doing 3-4 exercise per muscle group, 3 sets and reps 6-12 to failure (at least on the 3rd set maybe 2nd o)

Any responses, changes, critique and advice is very much appreciated.

 

[slat1]

I would absolutely use HCG no matter what!
If its a first cycle.... test only at 500mgs a week for ten weeks.
Good luck!

 

[Rod555]

It looks good, maybe a bit much for a first cycle as you said. If you are gonna go with that one, you may want more deca . Personally id do 500 test 400 deca.

Good luck bro.

 

[help4john]

You asked for opinions so here's mine....it's a little overboard for a first cycle. I am convinced through experience and feedback that any first cycle should be Test only. Try Sust250 500mg EW 8-10 weeks. With combining this much gear on your first cycle, it will be difficult to determine which one is causing sides (if some do appear). Others will disagree for certain. They may suggest just using Test and Deca....but many will feel the DBOL is too much to add to the mix.

Good luck! I'm sure you will get many more responses.

PS: Good thinking...planning ahead for PCT...as this is as important as the cycle itself. I am confident that you will reach the goals that you established.

 

[benapollo]

Is that enough?

I mean i ain't complainning cheaper for me hahaha.

first cycles seem to be eq/test or deca/test, i added the dbol to kick start it.
but I have read a lot saying you should stack test with something and not run it buy itself?

cheers for the quick response by the way 3 mins WOW

god had 4 replys by the time i wrote this.

anyway yes I thought it was too much I had tried sus and deca but only for a few weeks as my GF found them and binned the lot was not happy but have got her to except that i am going to do it. I had no sides by the way.

I was originally going to go with 500mgs / wk test eth and 300mgs /wk EQ would this be better and of course with good pct in place. I have started researching this but I will have it well in place before I start.

cheers for all the responses everyone

 

[Slyder190]

I like your cycle and agree with rod, bump the Deca to 400mg/week. I'd run the test to week 11 since after week 10 of Deca, you'll still have to wait 3 weeks for it to clear, and the test will only talke two weeks. this way everything clears at the same time. I'd try a lean bulking type of diet. Maybe you chould talk to Swole Cat for this. Your training depends on you, personally, low-volume works best for me. Make sure you have an anti-e as well. Best of luck!. Report back to us after your cycle is over.

 

[benapollo]

cheers everyone for the excellent advice I was originally only going to start with those sort of doses but read a thread on someone who started of with a lot more than me with no problems and excellent gains got me wanting that (greedy)

I will be on a good bulking diet not much fat high protein and quite a few carbs but not late on in the day, as I will be training in the morning 8ish.

I plan on posting before and after pics to show what gains i have made, also to give me some motivation hahaha... nowt like putting yourself up for criticism to motivate you.

how would you split the injections do

if i do 500 test 400 deca

do 250 test 200 deca monday /thurs
or
do 500 test monday 400 deca thurs

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

What kind of test would you be running? Would probably be better to take it twice a week to keep blood levels stable, the deca you can take once a week but might as well just split it up.

 

[Rod555]

Do it 250/200 monday and 250/200 on thursday. You can mix the two in the same syringe (with sus/deca at least) just use fresh needles for drawing each one to be safe.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I would absolutely use HCG no matter what!
If its a first cycle.... test only at 500mgs a week for ten weeks.
Good luck!

exactly!!!