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DB side/front raises

Front raises, usually pretty straight
Side raises, usually bent a bit due to elbow strain

Try using a plate for front raises.. love em

Grab a 45 plate with each hand on the outside in the middle
Start with it vertical and touching your thigh, raise it with your arms mostly
straight, until its nearly horizontal above your head.. slowly

12-15 reps x6 and you will feel it in the front and outsides..
 
I will go back to doing plates again in the front -- and stick to my 30's on the sides... I just dont know if 45 is enough UNLESS i do do 6 sets of so many reps -- im not sure if thats what im going for... id rather gain the size...
 
as to why any of you need to do front raises I have no idea lol. You get MORE than ENOUGH anterior delt work from chest presses and shoulder presses. Most of you should be more concerned with your rear and lateral deltoids.
 
Neo22 said:
as to why any of you need to do front raises I have no idea lol. You get MORE than ENOUGH anterior delt work from chest presses and shoulder presses. Most of you should be more concerned with your rear and lateral deltoids.
IMO front raises still pump alot of blood into the side delts as well. i ignored lateral raises and front raises for a very long time and had disproportionately small shoulders, but could still press like a mofo. once i started doing the kinda shit AAP and omega type lifters recommend and pumped lots of blood into the shoulders using light weight but rediculously high volume, my shoulders have been exploading
 
Always arms bent with laterals and alway lean slightly forward

Laterals are the most powerful when you do "burn outs or descending sets"

this is a series of sets usually 3 back to back using strict form but you start off with moderate weight and descend till you get to 10-15 pound dumbells.

For my self I start with 25's, then go to 20's then go to 15's

make no mistake be very strict on the lightest sets to really bring those deltoid heads out

I do 2 sequences but sometimes will do 3
 
Omega -- Ok -- so go heavy and small rep on say db shoulder press or military press.. and even on shrugs -- but then when I goto the laterals... do light weight drop sets? and 2 of them?

I usually do my side and front together(alternating) 6 reps each way... what do you recommend I do?

actually -- just tell me your shoulder work out :) lol what pumps yours up and gets em stronger and bigger :)
 
On shoulders I never go heavy;
the muscle / tie in to other muscles complex over all is very small,
it makes NO SENSE to put them in danger by using excessive weight especially with Military presses.\ and laterals.
Shrugs you an go heavier on though do to the size of the traps and mechanics of the move.
 
OMEGA said:
On shoulders I never go heavy;
the muscle / tie in to other muscles complex over all is very small,
it makes NO SENSE to put them in danger by using excessive weight especially with Military presses.\ and laterals.
Shrugs you an go heavier on though do to the size of the traps and mechanics of the move.
i disagree. sometimes some good heavy pushpresses reeally work well for the shoulders and upper chest and even traps.

but then again you said excessive, and excessive is never a good thing
 
OMEGA said:
Always arms bent with laterals and alway lean slightly forward

Laterals are the most powerful when you do "burn outs or descending sets"

this is a series of sets usually 3 back to back using strict form but you start off with moderate weight and descend till you get to 10-15 pound dumbells.

For my self I start with 25's, then go to 20's then go to 15's

make no mistake be very strict on the lightest sets to really bring those deltoid heads out

I do 2 sequences but sometimes will do 3
just did this at the shitty hotel gym and loved it
 
OMEGA said:
:heart: which part?
i did the 25, 20, 15, a couple times after a smith machine and pec deck machine and 50 lb dumbell fly session.

August 12- shoulders and chest (hotel in PR)
Incline Smith Bench- 225x10, 10, 10, 8
Machine bench- 3x10
Machine Flys- 3x12
Lateral raises- omega style
Flat bench flys for a stretch- 2x10
 
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