Day 3 on THERMOREXIN (edited for length)

[Ulter]

Ok after a shaky start, literally because I started with 2 caps, big no no, I am on my 3rd day. I still don't feel comfortable taking two and sleep was a little restless the first night with two so I may never get to two. Yeah sure I won't.
Anyway, appetite suppression is working very well. I looked at the clock yesterday and realized I it was 1 pm and I hadn't eaten yet. So remember to eat. You won't eat as much but you CAN eat on it.
I didn't eat this morning and took one so again shaving was a challenge and had to ultimately be performed with two hands on the razor.
I sleep on a waterbed. At 4 AM my wife woke me up and said the bed was leaking. It was absolutely soaked. I looked for leak but there was none. Then I realized it was only on my side, the water had come from me. Holy Moly!!
Suggestion: Put a beach towel over the bed where you sleep. Eat before shaving.

 

[easy]

I think thats solid proof ya'll got a good product on your hands. Keep us updated bro.

 

[shape]

Ulter,


THERMOREXIN VS. NYC??? who's the victor?????

 

[Ulter]

There is no comparison.... THERMOREXIN

I don't even know if DNP could work better. No shit.

 

[JG1]

ulter,

How do you "feel" on it though...very speedy? I mean does it feel like you just took about 10 NYC's...that type of feeling or something different? Perhaps not too speedy, just sweating a lot?

How much of a stimulant is it? I was kinda hoping this product was easy on the ol' ticker.

 

[Ulter]

My heart rate seem to be normal. about 74
Not speedy but very very alert and intense. The sweat won't stop but it comes in waves every 10 minutes or so. I can't explain that.

It's 94 deg outside and I am leaving to MGM Studios for the day. This should be interesting.

 

[Grainger]

What is the stuff and where do you get it?

 

[basskiller]

Ulter, is this really heating you up that much to where your drenched all the time?
Also, I have little to no caffiene in my diet, Been that way for years.. So things like this get me very shakey...
Does THERMOREXIN get you anxious.

IT really does sound promising!

 

[Ulter]

Yes you will get anxious, no question, for the first hour or so. The water comes in waves (no pun intended) it seems. If you are indoors and air conditioned then you'll likely only get a wet back and neck so you won't look sick to co-workers as someone asked.

Just a note: I am going on and on about this because I didn't listen to the smartest man I know regarding the strength of this product. Now I feel like an idiot. I thought it was going to be like NYC and he kept saying it will blow that away. To which I would reply "mhm ok". Now when I tell him what's going on in the AF office with the workers he just says "mhm".

 

[MrMakaveli]

Any estimations on how much metabolism is raised?

I'm really not wanting to fuck with DNP but I need to drop fat kinda quick...

 

[Ulter]

It's not DNP. It's not toxic in any way, but it is very intense.
It will drop BF really fast.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

another impression:

Mr. Nobody
Doby Mick
posted 05-18-2003 04:57 PM
well, I tried one, 45 minutes before working out.....was great to increase aggression and sweated like a pig...was not too stimulating though....just right...tomorrow I will try 2 before working out....I think P-7 is the perfect partner for this little supplement if you have trouble going to sleep...oh and before I forget, the appetite suppression IS VERY powerful, my chinese waitor thought I was sick when I quit at my third plate....the thing is it makes you taste the food less...food becomes less satisfying.....just my impressions;

 

[Ulter]

Hey Ulter, its day 4 now? Hows the BF loss so far?

Down 6 pounds, I haven't measure my body fat.

 

[Ulter]

I am ALWAYS on AS. I was not on a cutting program at all. I had to get an EMG and have some tests done, which turned up a bone spur in my spine, so I haven't been training this week either. I will train on Tuesday, I thought I was going to train today, but we went to The Matrix.

The one thing I am having a hard time with is remembering to eat and then eating it when it comes.

 

[sk*]

Hmm....

Comparable to dnp?

Is it an uncoupler or a stimulant? If it is a stimulant, wouldn't it be VERY dangerous since you would need a pretty strong stimulant to even compare it to dnp?

-sk

 

[macrophage69alpha]

it effects are multi-system.. both stim and non stim thermogenesis as well as impact on GH and insulin.. with appetite suppression and nootropic effects thrown in..

 

[sk*]

it effects are multi-system.. both stim and non stim thermogenesis as well as impact on GH and insulin.. with appetite suppression and nootropic effects thrown in..

My bp went through the room on 2caps of dymetadrine xtreme which is just a high dose eca stack, should I even attempt to take this? From the sound of it it looks very good, but i'm a little worried. BP went up to 170/120 and went back to 120/80ish the next morning.

Thanks mac.

-sk

 

[Frackal]

Damn macro pulled off an effective ephedra free thermo that works.

This is excellent.

 

[easy]

Hey ulter, do you stay on this stuff for extended periods of time, or just cycle it like DNP. Also, any idea how long after the last dose the heat will go away.

Bump for this info. I ordered mine yesterday. Can I take it for extended amounts of time, i.e. 3wks on 3 wks off???

 

[Ulter]

I am the longest surviving user of THERMOREXIN.

Day 5

My morning capsule was gone by 3PM today 7PM yesterday. Tomorrow I will go up to 2/day. I still can't remember to eat but I am using an alarm to remind me now.
The heat is still very good the whole day and into the night. Due to the fact I will be taking 2 tomorrow the forecast should be very warm.

"Bump for this info. I ordered mine yesterday. Can I take it for extended amounts of time, i.e. 3wks on 3 wks off???"


I think if you use it for 3 weeks you may be finished dieting. So yes you can take off after that.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Would this be good to run with Clen on the 2 weeks off, or is that a bad idea??

yes.. a good idea

 

[Ulter]

Ulter - Would it be beneficial to run say Var 40mg ED with it to reduce muscle loss or is it not a big concern with this product.
Thanks

Yes, I strongly recommend using AS with it. Although you will lose the fat so fast the muscle won't have much time to atrophy noticeably.

macro/ulter,

Any need to rotate this every two weeks with NYC?

YES. You will need a stimulant to come off to anyway. Because the crash is very hard.

 

[JG1]

Yes, I strongly recommend using AS with it. Although you will lose the fat so fast the muscle won't have much time to atrophy noticeably.

Umm, this stuff is catabolic?

 

[Ulter]

No but not eating is.

 

[KINGKONG69]

Have you had any results back from women tryin it yet. would it be any more effective for them over guys.

 

[Ulter]

Ursula 29 Took 2 at once the first day and got whacked from it and did sleep that night. The 2-3 days she took one and sleep was still restless. Day 4 got her period and began PMSing and quit.

Kasia 23 Took 1 a day. She can't use NYC it makes her sick. She absolutely love THERMOREXIN. She was able to do 3 times the amount of cardio than she is used to. Hard to fall asleep but once she does it is peaceful and restful.

Mira 50 Took 1 a day. Same deal here, gets sick from NYC, but loves the THERMOREXIN. She is sedentary, does not normally diet, and still lost 4 pound in 3 days. No problem sleeping.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

My question was unanswered and I believe it to be a very important issue. How is thermorexin on the heart and blood pressure?

-sk

as with most stims this will vary by individual... though most users, still few at this time, have noted little, if any impact on HR or BP.

 

[Ulter]

I am sorry, I posted this so many places I can't keep track. Two hours after I took 2 the first day my heart rate was 74. Which is what kept me from shear panic. My BP was 20 points higher on it however, but there was a small fear factor.
But as Dr Macro points out my experiences are just one guy and in the grand analysis don't mean anything to others.

 

[Ulter]

Would this loss of weight be directly related to loss of water? Since you are sweating so much?

Also, I take ECA and NYC for the energy

How does the thermo compare for pre workout energy etc?

What about using this with yohimburn df?

Thanks

Absolutely the first 3-4 pounds coming off will be water. But then once you lose it, which takes a day, you won't be putting any more on so whatever comes off after that is fat.

It's better than ECA or NYC for training. Again we join Mr Nobody's posts already in progress....


Mr. Nobody
posted 05-19-2003 08:34 PM
o.k. I wont try 2 before working out again...I had goosebumps throughout my whole workout...but the stamina was great

He normally uses ECA.

 

[JG1]

Ok, I took one cap approx an hour ago. The only thing I'm noticing is a more alert feeling...no sweating or feeling hot or anything like that.

 

[JG1]

Ok, just did the dishes and my forehead was wet afterwards and I'm feeling a little sweaty and hot just from doing that. If I just sit down and relax I'm fine (more alert feeling), but if I move around a little I feel the heat building up.

 

[Forster]

Got mine today took 2, 1 hour before cardio (3 mile fast walk) and 3 hours of martial arts class (sparing night).

I felt more alert during class , was like everthing was thru a 1x scope lol.

Noticed a little more sweat than normal nothing major. Thou i do seem to sweat doing anything besides sitting. Pulse and BP all normal.

Least i can actually tell i took it, unlike all the eca stacks i've tried.

Quess i'm highly resistant.

 

[Ulter]

Questions:

I usually work out in the morning on an empty stomach. This is to maximize yohimburn, and i eat usually 2 hours after working out.

So WHEN do you suggest i take a thermo pill? Cuz you say if i take it with no food, it's gonna start an earthquake inside of me. So should i wait til after my workout and THEN take it with a meal? But then my workout won't have the extra "umph" right?

What do you suggest? I'm stumped.

-= nav =-

I strongly suggest you eat something. I have spoken to 7 people today who have tried it and Dr Macro is the only one who doesn't get nauseous or shaky from it on an empty stomach.
The THERMOREXIN is going to shove that food through you very quickly anyway. Just eat very light. Anything really.

You really really want to take this before you train.

Got mine today took 2, 1 hour before cardio (3 mile fast walk) and 3 hours of martial arts class (sparing night).

I felt more alert during class , was like everthing was thru a 1x scope lol.

Noticed a little more sweat than normal nothing major. Thou i do seem to sweat doing anything besides sitting. Pulse and BP all normal.

Least i can actually tell i took it, unlike all the eca stacks i've tried.

Quess i'm highly resistant.

That's really great news bro. If you don't respond to ECA, like many other people, this will be just what you needed.

 

[JG1]

I decided to take two today. My first dose at 2:30, and my second at 7pm. I didn't want to take it too late, however tomorrow I'm going to take it at 8 (I train at 9pm) cause I don't feel to bad right now.

So tomorrow I'm going to do 3 caps, one at 8am on an empty stomach before my morning cardio (60 minutes on the treadmill), another one at 2:30, and the third at 8pm.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

eating a small piece of fruit may be a good idea when taking thermorexin. particularly since it will help to reglycogenate liver.

 

[JG1]

eating a small piece of fruit may be a good idea when taking thermorexin. particularly since it will help to reglycogenate liver.

You talkin about a piece of fruit every time you take thermorexin? Or "an apple a day" type thing would be good?

 

[Ulter]

He talking first thing, when the glycogen stores in your liver have been depleted and need replenishing.

DAMN! You're aleady going to 3/day on day 3? My turn with 20 questions...

How well did you sleep?

How much NYC were you using when you started the THERMOREXIN?

Describe how it makes you feel physically and mentally?

Have you noticed and improvement in your cardio stamina?

 

[JG1]

How well did you sleep?

Slept like a baby. Although I did take 1/2 pippette of P7 right before bed.

How much NYC were you using when you started the THERMOREXIN?

I was only taking two NYC tabs 45 minutes prior to morning cardio, as well as two cups of green tea. I have taken 6 tabs of NYC daily before though, and it never bothered me. I didn't drink the green tea this morning though.

Describe how it makes you feel physically and mentally?

Physically, I feel more alert...more of a stimulated feeling. I feel a little hotter as well, and that intensifies as I do more active things.

Mentally, as well as being more alert, I feel like I can concentrate on things more clearly. Kinda hard to desribe, but it's like I can focus on what I'm doing better then before.

Have you noticed and improvement in your cardio stamina?

Well, I just did an hour on the treadmill and I feel great. I did however sweat a hell of a lot more this morning then I usualy do....I was sweating like a whore in church. Just absolutely drenched. I noticed that during the session, my quads would feel HOT at times....I could feel the heat radiating from them. Then they would cool off, then get hot again. Weird, not sure if that's from the thermorexin or not.....never felt that before.

As far as a stamina increase I couldn't really tell...my stamina certainly wasn't any worse, I felt really good threw the whole session. Last night though when I was training I felt great...usualy get a bit tired threw out the workout, but it felt like I could train for hours before getting tired.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

BTW.... macro or ulter,

What do you guys think of drinking an additional amount green tea threwout the day? When taking the NYC, I was drinking two cups green tea prior to morning cardio, and two cups around 6pm.

Would I get more of a thermogenic effect by continueing drinking the 4c/day of green tea? Or does the three thermorexin caps that I'm taking have enough green tea in them to "get the job done" ?

additional green tea can only add to thermogenesis.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Fuck it, tomorrow morning I'm taking 2 Thermorexin, 1000mg L-carnitine, and drinking two cups of green tea before my morning cardio.

If I'm still alive, I'll post an update

somehow guessing that you will be fine.. very thermogenic, but fine

 

[MrMakaveli]

100mcg Clen
2 thermorexin


Feeling GREAT...hot..but great

 

[JG1]

Up to 4 right now....

Concentration is way up, sweating is way up (Def feeling the waves of water).

I think I'm addicted....

How are you taking them..... 2,1,1?

 

[MrMakaveli]

2, 2, 2.

I plan on taking 2 more before training.

Your lucky though, this stuff is killing my appetite ruining SGX.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

To Ulter or Macro,
Can this product cause prostate irritation like NYC? I had to stop taking NYC because of that side. I take in a gallon or a little over that a day in water so I don't think hydration was the problem.
Thanks

it should not irritate prostate

btw- 1 gallon a day is NOT sufficient for someone with a high protein diet, on stims and on a decent (not even aggresive) workout program.. up the water.

for people over 200lbs two gallons a day is par for the course

 

[Forster]

3rd day report.
Up to 5 a day and can notice a difference,
2 morning 1 lunch 2 afternoon. Do have to remeber to eat after taking thease tho, stomach gets illl if not.
I was up to 8 eca a day prior, 3 morning 2 lunch 3 afternoon and noticed nothing so stopped, afraid to take more.

Sucks being resistant to almost everything i take, gets expensive.

Adding 5mg of Y hcl to morning and afternoon does since i have plenty, see if that boosts effects.

lost 5 lbs in 3 days so far, assume it's water.

 

[Fonz]

Thanks for posting your results bro.

Thanks for the freebie Ulter.

Well, I went ahead and took 6. 2 3X/day

No shakiness at all. Suprised the hell out of me.

I'm sold as the anorectic effect was pronounced.

Nootropically? I'm the worst judge for that.....lol But I'll give it some more time. I've been setting up my new P4 and my head is hurting from the upgrades I needed to do for grad school......

Fonz

Just one thing.

You guys have the actual Synephrine HCL.....thats why it works soo well.

Alll the other companies have the extracy version, why it doesn't do a bloody thing.

Its like comparing Ma-Huang Extract and Ephedrine HCL.

Thumbs up from me.......good product. I was skeptical...at the beginning but its a godsend as I'm going to be doing a lot of extreme critical thinking and i really doen't want to be amped up all the time.

Fonz

 

[halfaclue]

I joined the ranks! Had one last night...felt very focused, vision seemed to improve as far as picking out contrasts better. Did not really notice appetite supression nor did I feel unusually warm but I was in shorts and a tank top (outside) and it was 55 out last night so that could be why. Definitely felt an increase in stamina, I have been on Stacker since I ran out of NYC so basiclly on NYC/ECA for about 6 weeks so I am sure my tolerance is up. Took one this morning and my head felt fuzzy for about 30 minutes, again I have the focused feeling and I get warm flashes in my face. Excited to take my second pill around lunch and looking forward to a heavy day of lifting tonight!

 

[manfromba]

Got a free sample pack with my yohimburn and popped two before I hit the gym. Got on the elyptical machine and I was sweating BAD!!! Gave me good energy and my heart rate went to 172, normally it doesn't go above 160. Hopefully this stuff will help keep down some water retention. I am getting ready to place my order.

 

[JG1]

Did my hour of cardio a little while ago and popped 2 Thermorexin, 1g L-Carnitine, and drank two cups of green tea 40 minutes prior. Stomach felt a lot better this time around...thank god.


One thing though, been getting headcahes lately......although I'm not sure it's from the Thermorexin. I had one bad bout of headaches last Saturday, then all of a sudden they starting appearing again Wednesday night, and they just don't want to go away. I started the Thermorexin on Tuesday. My blood pressure may be a little high, and the thermorexin may have increased it somewhat...however my blood pressure has no reason to be high since I'm on absolutely nothing right now (haven't been on since the beginning of the year), and I've been doing an hour of cardio every day for the last 5 weeks.

 

[Ulter]

I took Dr Macro's advice and ate a banana before I took the T-REX and that took care of my sour stomach.

If as you say the headaches started before you started the T-REX then maybe you should go get your BP checked. Just to see what it is.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Re: Dr. Macro!!!

Would it be better to eat a little bit more food with the thermorexin. I am 4 weeks out to my show. Doing protein shakes and meal replacemtns only with one meal of eaither chicken or steak or pork chops or fish. My stomach is fine with taking thermorexin with the shake but I know with DNP it helps to eat a little bit more then just liquid to increase the heat. Is that the case with thermorexin?

taking with fruit, even for those like yourself with no stomach discomfort, helps to reglycogenate the liver...

so in a certain sense.. yes.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Just hit my first cap 2 hours ago...SWEATING LIKE A PIG.My shorts/back of my shirt are drenched.You guys busted Ulter's balls for comparisons to DNP,well it DOES feel like a very mild dose!Sort of comparable to the feeling of 100-200mgs of DNP.

 

[halfaclue]

DAMN IT I WANT TO SWEAT!!!! Took cap 2 at lunch. Feel normal...alert but no extra heat...I want heat...I'm going for two caps at once....say a prayer...I'm going in!

 

[Ulter]

Two should be the limit bro. Iron God is a thermo freak and this was his post yesterday.

Iron God
Moderator posted 05-22-2003 08:20 PM
I saw FC taking some sort of pills, so I took 3 myself and my face feels like its 2000 degrees, And I am getting bad sweats and clammy armpits.

Thermorexin..So strong you feel it in the face.

 

[MrMakaveli]

Popped 6 yesterday...felt great for a couple hours before the heat REALLY HIT me

You werent fucking kidding about it feeling like D, sweet jesus.

Thermo+Clen= GREAT combo btw, energy was amazing.

 

[halfaclue]

That is what I am doing...Thermo+Clen
1 thermo 8am plus 100mcg clen
1 thermo noon plus 100mcg clen
going to take just two thermos tonight before my workout.

 

[MrMakaveli]

That is what I am doing...Thermo+Clen
1 thermo 8am plus 100mcg clen
1 thermo noon plus 100mcg clen
going to take just two thermos tonight before my workout.

I did 200mcg Clen yesterday...hope you have some P-7, thats the only way I'm sleeping on this stuff.

 

[Forster]

Day 4
2 therm in morning + 5mg of y hcl + 5 gm cla

Lunch time 2 therm + 1 r-ala

Afternoon 2 therm +5 mg y hcl +5 gm cla

Finally got the heat others talking about at this dose.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Took 2 caps today,one 4 hours after the other.Sweated nicely all day,appetite was supressed for an extended period,none of the usual gut-growling pangs.Will see if I can tolerate 3 tomorrow.

 

[drveejay11]

Just began mine----yesterday!

Began with 1 cap in the am (7:00). I didn't feel anything.
Took another in the afternoon( 2:00). NOTHING. [2 total caps]
Slept like a champ as well.

Today....I will begin 2 caps twice/daily [4 total caps]

 

[drveejay11]

Quick update.......

I took my 2 caps this morning at 8:30 am
I began feeling moderately WARM around 9:45. Literally.....out of the blue---began feeling WARM. Nice. BUT----none of this increased euphoria or mind clarity of bursts of energy-------YET.

I am going to do 45 min on the bike...........so, I'll report when finished.

 

[Ulter]

what the hells all this mind clarity, and increased concentration i keep hearin about. im not sayin anyones full of shit, but is there a chance its all in your head.

my girlfriend just started it yesterday, did 1 tab, nothin yet, shes upin the dose today to 2. ill let you know how it goes.

There are nootropics (smart drugs) in THERMOREXIN, so yes in a sense it IS in your head.

 

[Ulter]

I still can't take 2 capsules even if I take them 2 hours apart. I have to use 1 then 4 hours later 1 more and so on.

 

[KINGKONG69]

My girlfriends on day 2, yesterday she took one at 6pm before workout, felt nothin yet, slept fine. today she took 1 before gym at 10am, then took her second at 3pm, then she took a nap at about 4pm, slept an hour and half.
its now 8:30 and the only thing she has said is it made her sweat more at the gym. no heat at all otherwise, no head ache, nothin bad. were gettin ready to go down to the beach for the night, and she wants to take another tab. think all will be fine. no problems so far, 2 tabs so far today, and the last was 5 hours ago.

 

[KINGKONG69]

by the way, she's 23, 5'5" at 130lbs. we checked her heart rate a hour ago and it was 76 BPM about normal, maybe up 3 bpm from usual, and BP was still fine, about normal, which is low, she's in great cardio shape.

 

[KINGKONG69]

OH, one other slight side she had was she was shaky this morning when we went to the gym, about 30 minutes after she took 1 pill, but she hadnt ate anything for breakfast, and was workin out on an empty stomach.
we hit subway on the way home, and the shakiness went right away.

 

[KINGKONG69]

damn, just when i was about to order I read this first and find out that it really doesn't do much, I guess i can look at the bright side and realize I saved $54. Maybe more feedback will come.

what makes you think it dont do much, i think at the right doses it probly will.

 

[Millie]

its very difficult to feel any thermo effects on a keto diet

so are you saying that t-rex doesn't work on a keto diet? or is it that a person will get better fat loss results if they include some fruit in their diet. btw, when you say 'a peice of fruit' what exactly do you mean - 1 apple? 1/2 apple? 1/4 apple?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

so are you saying that t-rex doesn't work on a keto diet?
no.. but that in ketosis "thermogenesis" even higher levels of it are often undetectable (from a "feel the heat" perspective) when in a keto metabolic environment.. its the "carbs as fuel that provides the "heat feeling" as anyone who has eaten them on DNP is well aware

or is it that a person will get better fat loss results if they include some fruit in their diet. btw, when you say 'a peice of fruit' what exactly do you mean - 1 apple? 1/2 apple? 1/4 apple?

yes.. this is true.. 1 apple is probably sufficient (depending on bodywieght) for larger individuals perhaps a banana would be better) apples a good low calorie choice

btw- with the use of glucorell.. there really is no need for ketosis.. JMHO (and a decent bit of both clinical and anecdotal evidence)

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

OMG Ulter..i got a sample of it attached to my order or R-ALA and nyc+...Holy Fucking crap..

I gave it a shot instead of NYC. This shit kicked my ass. I was shaking and sweating more then then 120mcg or Clen. I think this is an Amazing Product.

I have a few questions. How does if effect muscle growth? Does it eat away lean mass like DNP? Finally could you stack this w/ a summer cycle to keep off the bloat?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

jg1,

it may be the vinpocetine.. while extremely rare it can cause headaches in some individuals because it it increase neurovascular blood flow..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

just a quick question,

what if i apply yohimburn 30min before i train, wouldnt eating an apple or sumthing interfgere with the yohimburn ?

no

fruits are not very insulogenic, especially water laden ones like apples

 

[macrophage69alpha]

anychance its not effective for some people. my girlfriends 3 or 4 days in, and up to 3 tabs a day, and hasnt felt much of anything yet. also, she's down maybe 1lb. she's on yohmburn also, and on a decent diet.

im not complaining what so ever, i mean she's not lookin to get a ton of sides, do you think it just takes longer to work on some people then others.

if diet is low or zero carb then. thermogenic effect is often blunted (ie you are still thermogenic.. you just dont get hot)

level of stimulation varies CONSIDERABLY.. though most find it sufficiently strong and less jittery than "standard" stacks..

appetite suppression.. this is pretty consistantly strong.. (though their will be exceptions)

finally.. for people not as in tune with thier bodies responses.. some effects while quite strong may be subtle to them...

(ie some people take strong stims.. to the point where thier feet are constantly tapping, they run around like maniacs, sweat, etc.. but fail to realize it.. very odd.. but very true)

 

[HULKSTER]

OMG Ulter..i got a sample of it attached to my order or R-ALA and nyc+...Holy Fucking crap..

I gave it a shot instead of NYC. This shit kicked my ass. I was shaking and sweating more then then 120mcg or Clen. I think this is an Amazing Product.

I have a few questions. How does if effect muscle growth? Does it eat away lean mass like DNP? Finally could you stack this w/ a summer cycle to keep off the bloat?

DNP doesn't eat away at lean mass---that is just another myth. Whenever I alternately use an anaver cycle, with a DNP cycle, I always gain more lean muscle mass, get more shredded, all the while my bf% decreases.....and the most significant aspect of this is that my biceps and chest muscles keep growing. Usually, the upper-body is the first area to lose strength and lean mass when hit with a pro-longed dose of heat, whether it be from the flu, DNP or continued daily use of a sauna.
Heat is heat, bros. You just have to make sure you keep your body's core temperature at a reasonable level, and you take all precautions (supplements/fruits) necessary in order to protect your organs.

And as an LPN, I know a great deal about this.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Does this stuff have any vaso-dilation effects like Ephedrine or Nor-Eph?

Meaning, does it shrink blood vessels?

Meaning, WILL IT SOFTEN YOUR DICK? LOL

NO

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Do you all think that there could/would be any adverse sides using your product while on Accutane therapy?

perhaps.. but only due to the fact that accutane use will decrease liver metabolism of the ingredients.

 

[halfaclue]

Update

1 Week of use of 1 thermo am with 100mcg clen
1 thermo at lunch with 100mcg clen
2 thermo 45 minutes before the gym....
Not sweating super bad but definitely more then usual when i work out...not at all during the day though. Huge difference in stamina for me....in every aspect of my life I might add

Definitely interested in what happens when you take this and DNP. I was starting my DNP ccyle next week. Let me know if anyone trys this out. Definitely better then ECA or NYC....once I hit 6 caps then I will comment on the comparison to DNP.

 

[SuperbeastC&J]

since wed i have been taking these, and have lost 16 pounds so far. i went from a 270 to 254.....

 

[KINGKONG69]

since wed i have been taking these, and have lost 16 pounds so far. i went from a 270 to 254.....

is it all water, has to be, you cant loose fat that quick can you.

how many a day are you on.

 

[Ulter]

Yes a big chunk of that 16 is water. But if he was that heavy to start then the thermo effect would be most like be greater than some others posting (I say that because to get to 274 your carb intake is generally high) which would mean that a good portion of his weight loss will be fat as well.

 

[Ceebs]

Took my first Thermorexin about 45 minutes ago, and I'm feeling a little warmer and much more focused presently. Not wired within an inch of my life, which I like. Appetite is stone dead, but it has been since I woke up. I think I like this stuff.

 

[Ulter]

Sorry if this sounds dumb, but once u replenish the water you have shed, wouldnt you only shed the water you have replenished?>

Yes once the intial water dump takes place, which for me was the second night, you won't be able to put it back in to where it stays. I lost 3-4 the first 48 hours and then 7 more over the next 7 days. After the 4th day every thing was fat loss.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Appetite is stone dead, but it has been since I woke up. I think I like this stuff.

this is fairly consistent among users

 

[rdgrenade]

took my first one today i feel a lil heated up but nothing to big yet ill keep everyone posted on my results

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Well day one felt great. Very energetic and warmer.
Day two was less then i wanted. I took two pills at once and felt nothing out side of the thought of food made me feel sick.

I was wondering what is exactly in it? I was thinking about stacking it with some NYC to get a maxium thermogenic effect. But the dosage of Ephedra in the combined two worry me.


P.S. Day two i could not stop going to the bathroom.

It seems this product works wonders for killing your hunger. i am just wondering how well it will burn fat? Also how it will effect stacking it w/ NYC and AAS products for summer cuts?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

LftHndPwrHouse ,

what was carb intake like.. this can greatly affect "warmth" feeling..

 

[OXANDRIN]

i got a sample pack with my order of r-ala

so yesterday i took 1 before the gym and had a great workout.

this morning i decided to take 2 on an empty stomach before my 5am 4 mile run. was feeling great until mile number 3.... the last mile was sweaty! and i felt sick..... then after i was done

i threw up.

 

[JG1]

jg1,

it may be the vinpocetine.. while extremely rare it can cause headaches in some individuals because it it increase neurovascular blood flow..

macro,

I also noticed while I was taking it that my throat felt constricted at times, felt very tight. Could I have been having an allergic reaction to something in the thermorexin that may have been causing both the headaches and tight throat?

 

[BigPapaPump]

I started out pretty light with this stuff, not wanting it to effect my sleep at all, but here is an overview of my experiences so far:

I began taking one cap per day with breakfast for 3 days, then moved up to a second cap in the afternoon around 3:00. I could not sleep the first night, but that's probably just me, if I drink any caffeine in the later part of the day...I'm done. I did not gain anything by this afternoon tab, no increase in temp or appetite supressment.

For the lst 4 days, I have been taking one cap in the early morning (6:30)on an empty stomach, then about an hour later, a second cap with breakfast. This is the trick for me. I can stay 'hot' up until about 11:30 when I repeat the process. I am literally sweating as I type this message. I do not have an accurate means to take my body temp, I've been using my kids thermometer and it says that my temp is up .3 degrees.

Without understanding the scientific reasons behind this product, or knowing what to expect. I can give you the following impressions:

It makes me feel like I'm taking t3. I have not experienced any jitters, headaches or upset stomache. I have had to almost double my water intake, however I am not pissing it out like other stims make you do, it is being sweated out. I have not worried about diet the past week, I eat junk but still have dropped 1 1/2 pounds. Next week, I'm planning to slowly work into a CKD diet and take better notes to pass on.

BPP

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

I posted this on Bolex(after seeing someone else mention it):

Another worthwhile side I have been experiencing is increased erections.For a few hours after each cap I start sprouting a semi,lol.

 

[RADAR]

Just gotten my p-seven in after only ordering 3 days ago......EXCELLENT SERVICE!!! Also got a sample of this thermorexin-took a cap at 4m today workout at 6...what can i say,it was the mother of all workouts-i could just listen to the music and let my body go thru the motions,i was in the zone...this was the only effect i felt off of it...gonna try 2 tomorrow.I'll post the results!!!



RADAR

 

[XzRzX]

just a question, how come theres a varying time of when t-rex hits you ? is there anyway of speeding up the process to match your workout time or does it vary from person to person ?

 

[Ceebs]

Took one Thermorexin twice yesterday, and thrice today. No headaches to speak of, workouts are awesome, pants are noticeably looser already (undoubtedly due to dropping some water), and my appetite has dwindled to nothingness even now, 5 hours after my last pill. I'd compare it to Phentermine in terms of appetite supression, except without the moodiness coming down. I really, really like the fact that it doesn't wire me out of my skull. I think I'll stay with this dose - no reason to tamper with perfection.

 

[easy]

So much for this keeping me awake at work. 5:30am and my boss just kicked my chair and woke me up. I guess I'll try 2 pill tomorrow. I can't tell if its hot as ballsack in here or if its just me.

 

[XzRzX]

just finished my morning cardio on an empty stomach with 1 cap t-rex ... it seems that my endurance has increased. i have noticed that i did not tire that easily compared to my cardio sessions before.

great product AF ! will pop the 2nd cap later

 

[MrMakaveli]

Bump for scale numbers, T-Rex+Clen is making me furnace, down 6 pounds in 10 days since I began using it. (Probably would have been more but my diet has been garbage)

 

[Ulter]

Down 11 and holding. I have added more AS and I'm eating much more protein than usual so the addition of LBM may be contributing to the stop in weight loss. I am getting very ripped however and finally back to wearing 31's. It's been two years.

 

[XzRzX]

how do u cycle it ? just like ECA ? 2weeks on 2weeks off ?

 

[Ulter]

I haven't cycled it yet. I am enjoying it too much.

But I would imagine that every two weeks would be a good rotation.

 

[XzRzX]

thanks guys. ! took 2 caps today and felt great.

will take up to 3 caps tomorrow, 2 b4 workout and 1 in the afternoon