dateline-to catch a predator

[Cal_21]

i'm gonna start a business where pedophiles can hire kids to scope out the houses of girls they meet online and make sure chris hansen isn't there

lololololololololololol

 

[heatherrae]

I haven't read the thread...but I think it's a bit like waving a stiff drink in front of an alcoholic. You can't really put this kind of undercover operation in the same category as other types if you accept that pedophiles have uncontrollable urges. It doesn't excuse the urges, doesn't excuse the crimes, but it's a sick thing to wave in front of their faces. Anyone ever seen "little children?" There's a man in the movie who's a pedophile...and by the end you actually end up pitying the guy because he's so clearly sick and he hates himself so much that he castrates himself.

Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop.

It's easy to villianize these people. I was raped by an adult man when I was 13 and it shaped my life whether I like it or not. I've made some posts recently about feeling like I didn't really have a youth and this is part of the reason why - no child should have to see the evils of the world in such brutal fashion. Once a sick person makes the leap to a sick person who has committed a crime, all bets are off.

But who can say that all of these people arrested through these means would commit a crime if they were not taunted and teased by these fake underage characters? I don't know....so much gray area. I don't think there's any easy answer here.

They go on the internet into children's chat rooms and start talking to them about sex. The guy in the movie should have castrated himself, and if I could get away with it without going to jail, I would castrate these men myself.

 

[nimbus]

You've done this before huh?

NICE TRY, HANSEN

 

[nefertiti]

They go on the internet into children's chat rooms and start talking to them about sex. The guy in the movie should have castrated himself, and if I could get away with it without going to jail, I would castrate these men myself.

I'm sorry, this just seems lazy to me - I've read your posts on this thread and overall it feels like you let your emotions get carried away. I understand. But it's the easy way out.

 

[nimbus]

I'm sorry, this just seems lazy to me - I've read your posts on this thread and overall it feels like you let your emotions get carried away. I understand. But it's the easy way out.

it's cause she's about to have a kid and gets carried away with every issue relating to children, just like in the sex in public thread

 

[MichaelScott]

why wouldnt this topic make your emotions get carried away?

 

[stilleto]

Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop..

yes, but
a. there ARE plenty of young kids who would also want to meet him and obviously, he can not resist the urge. a man who would NEVER have sex with a minor would never go.

b. they are VERY careful not to be the aggressor so entrapment can't be an issue. You ever notice that the men bring the young girl something? that's because it shows intent. they've brought something with the intent of luring the teen into bed with it. Which means that when they got in their cars, they knew they were going to have sex with a 13 year old girl.


If you put this same analogy to a child murderer, one who goes to a park just to look and satisfy his urges to see children, but then a 6 year old boy comes over and talks to him, and is very willing to walk away with the man... is that entrapment just because the boy is not a cop? or is it murder because the man brought him home, raped him, and then dismembered him?

does it even matter?

 

[heatherrae]

I'm sorry, this just seems lazy to me - I've read your posts on this thread and overall it feels like you let your emotions get carried away. I understand. But it's the easy way out.

Oh bullshit. I felt that way before I was pregnant. Sorry if I get emotional about people raping children and then people on the internet feeling sorry for the rapists. And as far as lazy posts go and over-emotional goes, I think I was the only one who understood and explained the concept of entrapment and why it doesn't apply. You posted a movie about a poor misunderstood child rapist and then expected us to feel sorry for him.

Are you people out of your fucking minds? What is wrong with you? Seriously?

 

[heatherrae]

Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop.

It's easy to villianize these people.

But who can say that all of these people arrested through these means would commit a crime if they were not taunted and teased by these fake underage characters? I don't know....so much gray area. I don't think there's any easy answer here.

Well then, I guess all date rape is okay, then. I mean, the girl goes out on the date with the guy which is like putting a drink in front of an alcoholic. She may have even given him a kiss or dressed sexy. Oh, how is he the villian? He wouldn't have raped her if she didn't taunt him that way.



It's easy to villianize these people because they ARE VILLIANS!

Like I said earlier, 100 little boys could ask me to sleep with them and I would most likely call their parents and tell on them. I wouldn't under any circumstances sleep with one. Why? Because I'm not a fucking pedophile.

 

[MichaelScott]

how can these people be defended for any of this? i knew someone would come on and defend them...unbelievable