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dateline-to catch a predator

heatherrae said:
that is not the definition of entrapment.

Ummmm....no, they are not MAKING them do anything. 1000 boys could tell me that they are 17 and want to fuck my brains out, and I would say yes 10,000 times.

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biteme said:
heatherrae said:
that is not the definition of entrapment.

Ummmm....no, they are not MAKING them do anything. 1000 boys could tell me that they are 17 and want to fuck my brains out, and I would say yes 10,000 times.

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not funny. That shit grosses me out. I hate child molesters.
 
heatherrae said:
not funny. That shit grosses me out. I hate child molesters.

Relax. 17 year olds are not children.
 
I haven't read the thread...but I think it's a bit like waving a stiff drink in front of an alcoholic. You can't really put this kind of undercover operation in the same category as other types if you accept that pedophiles have uncontrollable urges. It doesn't excuse the urges, doesn't excuse the crimes, but it's a sick thing to wave in front of their faces. Anyone ever seen "little children?" There's a man in the movie who's a pedophile...and by the end you actually end up pitying the guy because he's so clearly sick and he hates himself so much that he castrates himself.

Anyway...picture this...Joe pedophile is trying to resist his sickness...so he peruses the internet because he sees it as a harmless way to satiate his demons because he figures so long as he never meets or touches an underage child, he can avoid victimizing one. Then one comes along who WANTS to meet him....and the temptation is too much to bear. Only the boy or girl who is tempting and provoking them is really a cop.

It's easy to villianize these people. I was raped by an adult man when I was 13 and it shaped my life whether I like it or not. I've made some posts recently about feeling like I didn't really have a youth and this is part of the reason why - no child should have to see the evils of the world in such brutal fashion. Once a sick person makes the leap to a sick person who has committed a crime, all bets are off.

But who can say that all of these people arrested through these means would commit a crime if they were not taunted and teased by these fake underage characters? I don't know....so much gray area. I don't think there's any easy answer here.
 
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most of the guys are just straight up pathetic, no self esteem etc etc. i mean just look at some of the guys that show up they are hideous where are they gonna get a chick? its the guys who have careers and futures that blow my mind, i have no pity for any of them btw
 
heatherrae said:
Being gay with someone is a consensual act between two adults.

Raping a 13 year old girl is not.

Thinking about sex with a teen is not a crime. Going to her house to have sex with her is. They aren't punished for their fetishes. They are punished for their ACTS.

Yes, these people can control themselves. You and I control ourselves every day.

If I see a guy walking down the street and think he's hot, I don't just go up and grab him. That would be assault. We aren't cavemen/cavewomen!

again what you think an adult is does not really matter, considering each country is different. that being totally aside, i dont disagree that the act is wrong. im sure they can control themselves. but these men on this show arent the types that go out, beat a 6 year old child and rape them and then suffocate them. these are men who choose to live their unacceptable lifestyle through the internet, which is what many of those who have strange fetishes do. these men were allowed openings to engage in the acts they wanted by talking to decoys. my point is to bring up the way the actions of the host of that show portray. these men on the show are helpless to their wants, and because of that are made to look like fools and have jokes made about them by chris hensen instead of it being mainly educational. its dateline for christ sake, not stand up comedy. these men are already pathetic, and to watch a credible news show make fun of people who cannot help their disposition is what i question. at the same time, again, do i disagree with the act? of course. all i can say is one thing....many 13 through 15 year olds were having consensual sex when i was in highschool. if it is their desire to engage in such an act, is it truly the older man's fault? or anyones at all?
 
heatherrae said:
I have a fetish for breaking into your house and stealing your things. So, don't punish me. I can't help myself. It is my psychology. :rolleyes:
Breaking and entering/theft isn't legal anywhere in the world. Consensual sex with a 16 year old is perfectly legal under US federal law...State law is a different story. Consensual sex between a 12 year old and a 40 year old is legal in Spain. Age of consent is a social construct. In Canada the age of consent is 14, maybe the dudes need to make a move to a different country. Also, pedophiles are a class of their own, people who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent individuals. That's deviant, from an evolutionary biological perspective having sexual desire for a teen, someone capable of procreating, is perfectly normal. It's the social construct that makes it deviant.
 
javaguru said:
Breaking and entering/theft isn't legal anywhere in the world. Consensual sex with a 16 year old is perfectly legal under US federal law...State law is a different story. Consensual sex between a 12 year old and a 40 year old is legal in Spain. Age of consent is a social construct. In Canada the age of consent is 14, maybe the dudes need to make a move to a different country. Also, pedophiles are a class of their own, people who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent individuals. That's deviant, from an evolutionary biological perspective having sexual desire for a teen, someone capable of procreating, is perfectly normal. It's the social construct that makes it deviant.

was gonna post something similar to this but i'm not intelligent enough to make it sound so beautiful..
 
javaguru said:
Breaking and entering/theft isn't legal anywhere in the world. Consensual sex with a 16 year old is perfectly legal under US federal law...State law is a different story. Consensual sex between a 12 year old and a 40 year old is legal in Spain. Age of consent is a social construct. In Canada the age of consent is 14, maybe the dudes need to make a move to a different country. Also, pedophiles are a class of their own, people who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent individuals. That's deviant, from an evolutionary biological perspective having sexual desire for a teen, someone capable of procreating, is perfectly normal. It's the social construct that makes it deviant.

What is this mystical place, Spain, of which you speak?
 
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