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dateline-to catch a predator

stilleto said:
i believe that may be true.
they might not be able to help their attraction to children. whether they are born with it or it developed from a molestation - it doesn't matter. It's obviously as wrong as wrong can get to have sex with a child. It is not up to anyone here to determine what age a child turns into an adult. is 13 old enough to decide? 11? 9?

is dateline dangling bait in front of these pedophiles? yes.
if they don't, will those same men eventually find a real teen or pre-teen to have sex with? most likely. and they will.
might they find a ... 12 year old? 10? 7? who knows. If doing that show stops ANYONE from pursuing a young boy or girl, whether consensual or not, or real or set up... then bravo.

anyone that can't see how good that show is- to expose these people and this sickness, clearly hasn't had children.


That show is entrapment, but hey, when I drive home I see cops entrapping speeders all the time.
The show does actually "catch a pred"
 
blueta2 said:
That show is entrapment, but hey, when I drive home I see cops entrapping speeders all the time.
The show does actually "catch a pred"

to me, it's a 'set up', but not an 'entrapment', since there was NOTHING stopping these men from saying "I'm not coming to your house", which is what any man who is NOT a pedophile would say.

and... even if these men couldn't help themselves and enjoy talking sexually to teenagers all night, sending some 12 year old girl pictures of his 55 year old dick- do you think any of those men on TV have never gone to meet a kid before?
they admit they have. and they would have again. i wonder how many of them would have turned to force at some point?
 
blueta2 said:
That show is entrapment, but hey, when I drive home I see cops entrapping speeders all the time.
The show does actually "catch a pred"
It isn't entrapment.

Damn, if I hear that one more time I'm going to beat my head against the monitor.

I defined entrapment earlier in this thread.

What they are doing is not entrapment. It is just a sting op.
 
heatherrae said:
It isn't entrapment.

Damn, if I hear that one more time I'm going to beat my head against the monitor.

I defined entrapment earlier in this thread.

What they are doing is not entrapment. It is just a sting op.
Heather, I know that you understand entrapment is something you have to have a certain level of legal education to understand as a legal standard. Solicitation of a criminal act like prostitution is the typical example used. The US has made legal constructs but I'm concerned about the media making it entertainment as a new angle on reality TV.
 
javaguru said:
Heather, I know that you understand entrapment is something you have to have a certain level of legal education to understand as a legal standard. Solicitation of a criminal act like prostitution is the typical example used. The US has made legal constructs but I'm concerned about the media making it entertainment as a new angle on reality TV.
I think it is a great thing!

I was able to show my ex's daughters that show and say "see, these men really are out there and some will KILL you." It makes parents more aware to watch what their kids do online. It makes kids more aware to be careful online. It exposes the bad guys and maybe makes a few guys think twice about being online predators because they may get caught.
 
javaguru said:
Heather, I know that you understand entrapment is something you have to have a certain level of legal education to understand as a legal standard. Solicitation of a criminal act like prostitution is the typical example used. The US has made legal constructs but I'm concerned about the media making it entertainment as a new angle on reality TV.

well GOOD. let EVERY pedophile worry that chris hanson will be waiting for him before he goes to some kids house. Make him worry about his family seeing him on tv trying to have sex with a 13 year old boy.

GOOD! Tough shit for them- they shouldn't be trying to fuck children- nomatter how strong they came onto them or who is behind the keyboard.

maybe just ONE of those men was, or would have turned into, the kind of pedophile that doesn't wait for an invitation and it makes EVERY humiliation worthwhile.
 
heatherrae said:
I think it is a great thing!

I was able to show my ex's daughters that show and say "see, these men really are out there and some will KILL you." It makes parents more aware to watch what their kids do online. It makes kids more aware to be careful online. It exposes the bad guys and maybe makes a few guys think twice about being online predators because they may get caught.
Heather, the statistics show that it doesn't deter anyone, just like the death penalty doesn't deter murder. Wasn't the dude that committed suicide recently an attorney? How long have those episodes been on? He wasn't deterred. Shows like this just make them (the "predators") more aware about tactics used to catch them, Nimbus is starting a business to help them out. Anywho, it stinks of vigilantism, which as an officer of the court, you should oppose....just sayin'.
 
i can't believe there is anyone that doesn't think they are doing a great thing.

i mean, anyone who is not a pedophile.

i'd volunteer my time for them if i could. and no, i was never molested.
 
stilleto said:
i can't believe there is anyone that doesn't think they are doing a great thing.

i mean, anyone who is not a pedophile.

i'd volunteer my time for them if i could. and no, i was never molested.
In ancient Greece, an upper class male would have been considered "deviant" if he he didn't like sex with underage boys. Like I said, vigilantism isn't something desirable....
 
javaguru said:
Well, age of consent is arbitrary. The Federal age of consent in the US is 16. In Spain the age of consent is 12.....Those numbers both come from INTERPOL. It's funny we allow 16 year olds to drive, the #1 cause of death for teens, and yet they can't consent to sex????
I used to say "ahhhhhh everyone is so stupid romeo and juliet were 14 and 13, we all grow pubic hair blah blah." then I found out there was a life expectancy of 35 back then and that sucked.
 
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