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mr.homework

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Help me out here guys. I am on my 1st cycle, 8 weeks of sust500/deca200. I am midway thru my 3rd week and I just stepped my sust250 up to 500mg today. My problem is that I have natural gyno (not bad, but it's there), and I think it is acting up. I was running 10mg of nolva ed from 1st injection. I have increased it to 40mg, which seems to be just keeping it under control. Does this sound normal? At this rate, I am going to spend a lot more money on anti-e's, then what I spent on the juice.
 
my anti e allways cost more than gear get some a dex take .50-1mg ed whole cycle keep nolva on hand just in case and allways have proviron you might need to stop your cycle if the nips start to hurt could be the deca and nothing you can do about that
 
Thanks for the info. Jack. I can't afford the armidex right now, that would cost me $308 for an 8 week cycle (taken .50mg ed till clomid). I have a good amount of proviron on hand already, hopefully I will not have to stop my cycle and use it (I am just starting to see some good gains). If the nolva does not control it, it might be the deca. In which case, I will try a test only cycle. If the nolva does control it, I may just go with deca alone on my next cycle.

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mr.homework said:
Thanks for the info. Jack. I can't afford the armidex right now, that would cost me $308 for an 8 week cycle (taken .50mg ed till clomid). I have a good amount of proviron on hand already, hopefully I will not have to stop my cycle and use it (I am just starting to see some good gains). If the nolva does not control it, it might be the deca. In which case, I will try a test only cycle. If the nolva does control it, I may just go with deca alone on my next cycle.

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look for liquidex... if you look hard enough, you should be able to find it for $200US or less and you'll a 80mg supply.....

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Yes get the Liquidex but if your already feeling it get worse in your 3rd week then you NEED to continue the Nolvadex @ 40mg/ED just like your doing. I'm on a similar cycle and felt the same thing in the same week (week 3). It was Nolvadex at that dosage that helped reduce it to original size.
 
monkeyballs said:
Some say femara obliterates gyno...
Any of y'all have any expriences or research to prove/disprove this?

I'll be getting some very soon and will post real world results.
 
Now I am starting to get concerned. I took 3 nolvas (60mg) and threw in a proviron. My nips are even more tender too touch today than they were yesterday. Now I can feel the hardened "marble like" gland under both my nips.

I am starting to think that with all the nolva that I have been taking with no results........maybe this is progesterone related gyno. What do you guys think?
 
This is the exact reason you shouldn't mix deca and test on a first cycle. Until you know how your body reacts to either compounds you won't have any idea which type of gyno you're getting. You can theorize all you want but at this point the only way to know for sure is to get a blood test. I'd suggest getting some Vitex from your local supplement store and start taking it 3 times a day to see if it helps.

Also anytime you do a heavy androgen cycle you should "expect" to pay more for ancillary drugs than the AS themselves. Test is probably the cheapest anabolic you can buy, unfortunately it requires the most ancillary drugs to run properly so the cycle ends up costing more. Anyone running Test or other androgenic AS without anastrozole and other anti-e's on hand is asking for trouble.
 
monkeyballs said:
Some say femara obliterates gyno...
Any of y'all have any expriences or research to prove/disprove this?

I had slight gyno starting my cycle of sust 500 eq 400 fina 50 mg ed winny 50 mg ed and femara 2.5 mg EOD and my gyno is almost totally gone in week 3, one side was just fatty the other had hard pea sized lumps (2) in it. I have one of those left and it is a lot smaller. Post cycle run femara at 5 mg (2 tabs) ED and if anything is gonna get rid of the gyno without surgery thats it. Some have had gyno upto 15 months old be reversed at 5 mg ED!

Hope this helps!
 
HugeWannabe said:


I had slight gyno starting my cycle of sust 500 eq 400 fina 50 mg ed winny 50 mg ed and femara 2.5 mg EOD and my gyno is almost totally gone in week 3, one side was just fatty the other had hard pea sized lumps (2) in it. I have one of those left and it is a lot smaller. Post cycle run femara at 5 mg (2 tabs) ED and if anything is gonna get rid of the gyno without surgery thats it. Some have had gyno upto 15 months old be reversed at 5 mg ED!

Hope this helps!

great info. Experience is what counts. karma 4 u
 
mvmaxx said:


great info. Experience is what counts. karma 4 u


Thanks a lot bro, when i head of femara reversing gyno I thought I must try it because if it does it could help SO many people on these boards as well as me! My buddy who got gyno from the same situation as me and who is on the same cycle as me now has experienced the same results as me! His lumps are gona in one side and a lot smaller in the other!
 
TEST SUCKS ASS!!!!

Screw this shit man, sust sucks. I am taking my nolva just like I read 100 times on these boards, and my damn nips have gotten bigger. I am going to drop the sust from my cycle, and I am going to use 60mg of nolva & 50mg of proviron ed until this shit goes away. If my nips don't look and feel better in a week, I will have to kill my cycle all together. I am no scientist, but I doubt I am getting gyno from just 200mg per week of deca.......what do you guys think?
 
Bump for suggestions?

P.S. - I have no money left to get liquidex or femera at the moment, so unfortunately, neither one of those are an option for me right now:(
 
mr.homework said:
Bump for suggestions?

P.S. - I have no money left to get liquidex or femera at the moment, so unfortunately, neither one of those are an option for me right now:(

If you can't afford any more ancillaries then it sound like you're gonna have to cut your cycle short. Unless of course shopping in Victoria Secret is fun to you
 
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