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damn im lovin this npp/prop combo

X Man

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im in week 4 of this npp/prop combo and im loving it... i have my boys tellin me im looking bigger, but staying much leaner then when i run longer acting deca....im gunna post pics sometime next week... but just wanted to let ya'll know...buldking or cutting this combo is where its at!
 
Why is this?
 
i was on the same thing, npp was fucking my head up badly, i just had to drop it. dropped it two days ago. it's still fucking with my head. get panic attacks and severe anxiety, my dreams are all fucking nightmares dreaming my womans cheating on me or friends are molesters and murderers. fuck it. im sticking with test.

but it was working rather well which sucks, like he said, ripping me up and putting on size, endurance pretty good. due to 24 hour anxiety i always feel like im short of breath but it works if it doesn't bother you, i ran it four weeks and thats' when the mental issues became too much.

although my grandfather passed this last week and my parents are in town from far away, i don't know if it's just added stress because i was doing fine until this week. :(
 
ah, i thought i was the onlyone who experienced issues with NPP + anxiety/panic attacks..

why is this? cant really explain it, but it seems alot of guys have the same issues.

im on
400mg NPP ew
400mg test prop ew
40mg tbol ed
 
lilleole said:
ah, i thought i was the onlyone who experienced issues with NPP + anxiety/panic attacks..

why is this? cant really explain it, but it seems alot of guys have the same issues.

im on
400mg NPP ew
400mg test prop ew
40mg tbol ed



how are you dealing with it. i have xanax on hand but i don't want to live on xanax just so i can take something. testosterone agrees with me well and it defintely works and im not a proffessional bb or anything. the speed of growth with test alone is fine for me. im not trying anything else ever. i have some tbols, maybe in a year from now which will be one year from doing some var, i will do the tbols with some test. this is the worst anxiety i have ever felt in my life. it's like my whole body and mind is going crazy. .5mg xanax and half hour later and im pretty good to go. but fuck it, it's not worth it.
 
well if you have all those other issues going on... i dont know if you can really blame too much of it on the NPP, i mean lets be realistic...

that aside, every drug effects EVERYONE differently, so proceed accordingly... that is why i believe it is important to be able to distinguish the effects of each individual drug aside from environmental factors
 
Ulter said:
I'm sorry to hear you guys are affected by NPP that way. It's a great steroid for growth. My fav for pure size.

I think it is my new favorite for this purpose as well.

I am running test/bold cyp/npp right now - This might be my best cycle ever.
 
I'm running 1st week of NPP/Prop and Var never had panic attacks though. What are your anxiety attacks like?
 
dsh89 said:
Add some Masteron to it. Nice lean mass stack.

dsh89 been dying to try this stuff. i am approaching end of test/tren/deca cycle. like to add masteron last 4 weeks. anyhting you can tell me, by PM, or on this thread, love to hear your results, thoughts.
 
if you have panic attacks i wouldnt be blaming them on steroid use. panic attacks can be quite frightening, and serious. i have had two or three in my life, after terrible things happened like a death in the family.

there is virtually a thread a day on EF about steroids and ANGST! DEPRESSION! ANGER! but steroids have nothing to do your emotional issues. they were there long before you started poking yourself.
 
yes glennds, but steroids can be the kicker to certain types of problems including depression or anxiety. True that youy emotional issues have nothing to do with steroids, but they do physiological. This in turn can lead to worse emotional problems.
 
thezan said:
yes glennds, but steroids can be the kicker to certain types of problems including depression or anxiety. True that youy emotional issues have nothing to do with steroids, but they do physiological. This in turn can lead to worse emotional problems.

maybe, but i dont buy it thezan. its a convenient was of transferring your issues to something outside of you. if anything being on should make you feel good, give you sense of well being.

i will agree that coming off can lead to depression, as your body is suddenly deprived of increased testesterone. testesterone has a lot to do with male moods. that is why PCT so important.
 
glennds said:
if you have panic attacks i wouldnt be blaming them on steroid use. panic attacks can be quite frightening, and serious. i have had two or three in my life, after terrible things happened like a death in the family.

there is virtually a thread a day on EF about steroids and ANGST! DEPRESSION! ANGER! but steroids have nothing to do your emotional issues. they were there long before you started poking yourself.



your nuts dude, my brother has ran 3 cycles. in those he's ran sust, EQ, deca, dbol, and anadrol. he never had any problems until he ran EQ, he didn't get quote unquote panic attacks but he was definetly affected emotionally. everything his woman said and did had him wondering if he was inadequate or she wwas cheating or she wasn't happy, none of which was the case but the shit had his head playing games with him. same as this npp is doing to my head. it's now been 3 days since my last shot and today i feel much calmer and i can tell the anxiety is still there but it's definetly more under control now, if i had shot more last night which i was supposed to i'd be flipping still. i ran last cycle test enanth and var, no problems, this cycle, prop and npp, i was running the prop for two weeks before i started the npp, this is about the third week for the npp and all of a sudden im jumping outta my skin. i've had anxiety problems but mostly about 3 years ago, i might need a xanax now once or twice a year, this week it's been 4 times i've taken it. my grandpa who died i wasn't even close to. i didn't know him well since my parents divorced when i was young. the juice can fuck with your head man. and everyone has problems, and it can create problems that weren't there and enhance existing ones. bummer on the npp for me due to the fact i don't want to run deca because of deca dick. so i'll stick to test alone. it's good stuff. i feel calm with test. i shot my test last night and still calmer today so i know it's the npp, and the other guy said it's happening to him from it and he said others have said the same thing. i've pm'd with people on here who will break into a sweat if they seen a bottle of EQ because of mentally what it's done to them but other steroids don't. so lucky you guy if YOU can take whatever you want and have all the mental control to handle it.
 
Masteron should be used if your body fat is pretty low to begin with. It won't make you huge or anything, but it really tightens and hardens you up. It has a short half-life, so it should be ran ed or eod. It is a great adddition to a prop/tren cyclre or prop/npp cycle. It is like the icing on the cake. I have a buddy that ran it alone, and he really liked the hardness, but agreed that he should have used it as an accessory.
 
dsh89 said:
Masteron should be used if your body fat is pretty low to begin with. It won't make you huge or anything, but it really tightens and hardens you up. It has a short half-life, so it should be ran ed or eod. It is a great adddition to a prop/tren cyclre or prop/npp cycle. It is like the icing on the cake. I have a buddy that ran it alone, and he really liked the hardness, but agreed that he should have used it as an accessory.

from what i have read about it you are right on the mark. i got low bf so it would probably give me a pretty enhanced look.

i dont complete not sure it is worth it though. sounds like results short lived.
 
jagerbombme said:
your nuts dude, my brother has ran 3 cycles. in those he's ran sust, EQ, deca, dbol, and anadrol. he never had any problems until he ran EQ, he didn't get quote unquote panic attacks but he was definetly affected emotionally. everything his woman said and did had him wondering if he was inadequate or she wwas cheating or she wasn't happy, none of which was the case but the shit had his head playing games with him. same as this npp is doing to my head. it's now been 3 days since my last shot and today i feel much calmer and i can tell the anxiety is still there but it's definetly more under control now, if i had shot more last night which i was supposed to i'd be flipping still. i ran last cycle test enanth and var, no problems, this cycle, prop and npp, i was running the prop for two weeks before i started the npp, this is about the third week for the npp and all of a sudden im jumping outta my skin. i've had anxiety problems but mostly about 3 years ago, i might need a xanax now once or twice a year, this week it's been 4 times i've taken it. my grandpa who died i wasn't even close to. i didn't know him well since my parents divorced when i was young. the juice can fuck with your head man. and everyone has problems, and it can create problems that weren't there and enhance existing ones. bummer on the npp for me due to the fact i don't want to run deca because of deca dick. so i'll stick to test alone. it's good stuff. i feel calm with test. i shot my test last night and still calmer today so i know it's the npp, and the other guy said it's happening to him from it and he said others have said the same thing. i've pm'd with people on here who will break into a sweat if they seen a bottle of EQ because of mentally what it's done to them but other steroids don't. so lucky you guy if YOU can take whatever you want and have all the mental control to handle it.
So how is your brother now that he is off?? Ive had anxiety issues for the past 6 years now. Tren will make it act up but I just tell myself its the tren and dont dwell on it. When I come off a cycle using tren, my anxiety will slowly go away. Ive learned to deal with it and I know that tren will make it act up but I dont care cause I know it will go away.
 
jagerbombme said:
your nuts dude,

.

ive been called worse!

i would guess i am lot older than you. when you get older lot of things bother you a lot less.

still dont buy steroids cause changes in your moods, behavoir that drastically. convenient to blame things on something else though, gives us excuse to act out.
 
gautho said:
l like prop/npp/trenace

apparently you like the shorter acting esters gaucho. why is that? judging by your avatar you are doing something right. you must feel like a pin cushion...how many injects you do per week?
 
treneriffic said:
So how is your brother now that he is off?? Ive had anxiety issues for the past 6 years now. Tren will make it act up but I just tell myself its the tren and dont dwell on it. When I come off a cycle using tren, my anxiety will slowly go away. Ive learned to deal with it and I know that tren will make it act up but I dont care cause I know it will go away.


back to normal, my brother's never had any anxiety or paranoia of all the drugs he's injested. he's always laid back and calm and reasonable. the EQ fucked him up. he's good now though.
 
glennds said:
ive been called worse!

i would guess i am lot older than you. when you get older lot of things bother you a lot less.

still dont buy steroids cause changes in your moods, behavoir that drastically. convenient to blame things on something else though, gives us excuse to act out.


i know what your saying. when i was 25-28, i was stressed for some reason and i am usually a i don't give a fuck kinda person, but i got majorly stressed. i think alot of people go through that at that age. my wife is going into it now at 27. im not trying to call you names either dude, hehe, glad you didn't take it the wrong way :). i just know that 2-3 years ago, i couldn't have done any steroids or ephedra like i just ran for 2 months because i would have freaked out with panic attacks thinking my heart was beating too fast and i was gonna die. i have a strong relaxed mind now these days and im telling you, the npp was fucking me up. i know it. you even said the tren fucks you up. your lucky it's controllable, for me, i would have to live on xanax the whole cycle, which is stupid.
 
Ulter said:
I'm sorry to hear you guys are affected by NPP that way. It's a great steroid for growth. My fav for pure size.


Hey Ulter in your opinion what would be the best dose and lenght with NPP for maximum gains? Let's say for an average 6' 200lb dude with 13% bf?

;)
 
glennds said:
apparently you like the shorter acting esters gaucho. why is that? judging by your avatar you are doing something right. you must feel like a pin cushion...how many injects you do per week?
I feel the shorter acting products give me more control, gives me the ability to make needed adjustments, and results now instead of later. As far as feeling like a pin cushion, not at all, my products are virtually painless from quality sources.
 
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