D-bol/EQ/Var cycle feedback please mods/vets

[DaveTSI]

first things first..

21yrs old
2nd cycle
185-190 9-10%bf
looking to get to 200lbs. 6-7%bf when all is said and done and im recovered.
first 6 weeks will bulk, cut for remainder

monday starting:

EQ 1-10 400mg wk syrus
dbol 1-4 25mg ed naps
var 8-13 30mg ed orbit(would go higher but dont have enough)
hcg 3-12 500iu m/w/f
clomid 14-16 (300, 100, 50)
nolva 1-13 10-20mg eod 14-16 20mg ed
liquidex 1-10 .25mg eod
tylers and milk thistle throughout

only thing im curious about is hcg. is this the best way to run it. i have 3 5000iu kits. what do you guys think, opinions, suggestions please. karma always....

 

[hammertime30]

first things first..

21yrs old
2nd cycle
185-190 9-10%bf
looking to get to 200lbs. 6-7%bf when all is said and done and im recovered.
first 6 weeks will bulk, cut for remainder

monday starting:

EQ 1-10 400mg wk syrus
dbol 1-4 25mg ed naps
var 8-13 30mg ed orbit(would go higher but dont have enough)
hcg 3-12 500iu m/w/f
clomid 14-16 (300, 100, 50)
nolva 1-13 10-20mg eod 14-16 20mg ed
liquidex 1-10 .25mg eod
tylers and milk thistle throughout

only thing im curious about is hcg. is this the best way to run it. i have 3 5000iu kits. what do you guys think, opinions, suggestions please. karma always....

I think liquidex and nolva is overkill for an EQ, dbol and var cycle. Also tylers and milk thistle should run with the orals and stop when the orals stop, not continuously throughout cycle.

Now that I look at it, in order to go from 185 to 200lbs and drop 6-8lbs in bodyfat, you need a total of about 21-25lbs. Don't see that happening with your chosen cycle.

 

[Goodfellow]

I say drop the EQ and add in some test at say 500mg per week. Keep the liquidex, and make sure your diet is in proper tune for your goals. Looks good, but I dont think you actually need hcg throughout your entire cycle.


Karma is always welcome!

 

[DaveTSI]

i am extremely sensitive to gyno, maybe ill cut out the nolva until i see symptoms. i think 15lbs is reasonable for this cycle, you are right hammer, 20-25lbs may be out of reach. goodfellow, i react terribly to test, ance/gyno/hair. Thats the only reason im not running test. also does anyone else have input on the hcg.

 

[Mavy]

first things first..

21yrs old
2nd cycle
185-190 9-10%bf
looking to get to 200lbs. 6-7%bf when all is said and done and im recovered.
first 6 weeks will bulk, cut for remainder

monday starting:

EQ 1-10 400mg wk syrus
dbol 1-4 25mg ed naps
var 8-13 30mg ed orbit(would go higher but dont have enough)
hcg 3-12 500iu m/w/f
clomid 14-16 (300, 100, 50)
nolva 1-13 10-20mg eod 14-16 20mg ed
liquidex 1-10 .25mg eod
tylers and milk thistle throughout

only thing im curious about is hcg. is this the best way to run it. i have 3 5000iu kits. what do you guys think, opinions, suggestions please. karma always....

I like it bro. A few things, I would either add in a low dose test, or up the EQ to 600mg/wk. I think that you will be fine at that dosage. Run the Nolva while taking the dbol, if you are that sensitive. I like to run HCG when all steroid has left my system instead of throughout the cycle, but many do as you are doing.

 

[tical]

Will tylers (or any liver detox) hinder gains from the orals if running it during the cycle? Anyone know if there is any proof that this is a valid or invalid statement?

 

[DaveTSI]

no, liver toxicity has nothing to do with your muscle gains from a cycle.

update on cycle been 1 week and 1 day, up around 5-6lbs. feel awesome on the naps, strength already taking a significant jump. i couldnt get ahold of anymore eq for now mavy, so i threw in 250 a week of test enan.