D-blade!! Does It Really Work 500% Better Then Orals!?

[d_o_c_]

Bump for Ret! I would give you some K but I have to pass some around before it will let me.

 

[Retabolil2]

Bump for Ret! I would give you some K but I have to pass some around before it will let me.

EVEN INJECTIBLE STEROIDS AFFECT YOUR LIVER! EVERYTHING THAT GOES TO YOUR BLOOD PASSES THROUGH YOUR LIVER! DBOL CAN BE TAKE SAME WAY AS D-BLADE!

 

[Mr.X]

EVEN INJECTIBLE STEROIDS AFFECT YOUR LIVER! EVERYTHING THAT GOES TO YOUR BLOOD PASSES THROUGH YOUR LIVER! DBOL CAN BE TAKE SAME WAY AS D-BLADE!

So, ret, tell me, what's more toxic on your liver, oral steroids or injectable steroids? and why?

 

[drrman]

D-blade has a patented sublingual method of administration that allows for maximum absorption. This ensures that you're not just putting something under your tongue and praying to god it hits the blood stream

You can read it here:
http://www.d-blade.com/product-info.php

what is the patent number??? if it is really a patented method?

 

[Mr.X]

what is the patent number??? if it is really a patented method?

You asking the wrong guy, try emailing them and asking.
http://www.d-blade.com/contact.php

 

[Anthony Roberts]

wow.

boldenone is a steroid. to which an ester can be added. just like testosterone is a steroid to which propionate, enanthate, etc. esters can be added.

this is a poorly thought out assumption and incorrect. its like saying anadrol is closer to oral primobolan. because they are both orals. or like saying oral dbol and injectable dbol are different


methylation CHANGES the structure and activity of a steroid. Esterification just delays its release into the system, the steroid must be cleaved from the ester.

Methyltestosterone is methytestosterone IT IS NOT testosterone. Its back to guru school for you.

Oral vs/ injectable dbol, as a matter of fact- will act differently in the body. By orally ingesting a product, you subject it to a first pass, and therefore more interaction with various enzymes in the liver. In fact, when you compare oral vs/ injectable versions of the EXACT same product, you find vastly different effects on many enzymes found in the liver, including aromatase, SHBG, etc...

Yeah....boldenone, as it clearly states in my book is the same thing as Dbol, but the boldenone we see on the market is estrified. Hence me saying "Boldenone" is estrified, because we have until this point ALWAYS seen it with the Undeclynate ester. Now, we're seeing it w/o the ester, and even with the propionate ester...but for most people, in common parlance (which was what I was speaking in): Boldenone = EQ (although we know this not to be 100% true)- people use "Boldenone" as the same thing as "EQ" and here, I was speaking to the average member of this board, not the people with an agenda to push their ineffective products- or alternately who take "inventor" credit for products they didn't originate (topical Yohimbe, Sesalean, etc...).

Anyway, where was I? ohh..ok...

Methylating a steroid allows it to survive the first pass through the liver, but by sublingual administration, it would appear to be a non-issue with this particular product.

Passing through the liver is the only reason that a product would be methylated. This product doesn't pass through the liver, so calling it D-bol w/o 17aa or EQ without an ester is the same thing...or calling it "boldenone" or even "Quinbolone" w/o an ester.

Passing through the liver is not done with Andriol, which is an oral testosterone that goes through the lymphatic system. There are ways to get a compound into the bloodstream without passing it first through the liver. typically, passing a steroid through the liver (when it is methylated) increases it's anabolic rating. We see this with Methyltestosterone, which is rated more highly than regular testosterone injectables (by Vida) as an anabolic agent.

This is most likely due to interaction with the aromatase enzyme in the liver, which is more pronounced with orals. D-Blade wouldn't go this route, so it would probably be less anabolic than Dbol, but also wouldn't effect liver enzymes as harshly either.

I think you're right...one of us has to go back to school...

You seem to have overlooked the liver as well as it's functions and it's importance in your absurd "AIFM" product, which avoids the liver in large part because of it's transdermal delivery method. Just as AIFM avoids the liver and therefore the source of the aromatase emzyme (making it useless as a shit flavored lollypop, for aromatase inhibition)- so does D-Blade.

The difference, is that D-Blade is TRYING to avoid the liver, and the aromatase enzyme, while AIFM "claims" to actually act on that enzyme.

This is also why Aromasin is far superior to AIFM- by virtue of oral delivery it interacts with the aromatase enzyme and SHBG much more strongly.

But please, keep going...your agenda is clear, and has been clear to the members here for a long time now.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

that is a load of crap. just because you write long bunch of bullshit does not cover up the fact that you failed to recognize basic biochemical differences.

wont even go into the other innacurracies in your posts since you fail to even understand the basic biology of the the liver.

attempting to attack AF because of your shortcomings, just shows how you think. You were wrong accept it and move on. Stop trying to make spurious arguments.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

that is a load of crap. just because you write long bunch of bullshit does not cover up the fact that you failed to recognize basic biochemical differences.

wont even go into the other innacurracies in your posts since you fail to even understand the basic biology of the the liver.

attempting to attack AF because of your shortcomings, just shows how you think. You were wrong accept it and move on. Stop trying to make spurious arguments.

Yeah...don't go into it....I think that's best for you. Try to retain what little credibility you can, now that you can't edit my posts- oh...and thanks for finally not sending me negative Karma and threatening PMs, too.

As far as I know, you're the one talking to management here about me, not the other way around. "Make him to stop, please..." was your move, a few months ago, as I recall.

Keep going, though. Keep going with your absurdly overaggressive marketing, which is transparent to every member here...

the funniest is when you claimed to never have bashed me, to my buisness partner (who owns S.com)- then he sent you screenshots where you had attacked me personally, for no reason.

Remember when you banned me here, and deleted all my posts where I proved you wrong? And then took my Avatar controls off, so I couldn't show people my book?

Yeah, then you said you never did that and that you never talked shit about me? And I had all the screenshots saved, even though you had them all deleted? And you talked shit about the cleanse product too? Said it wouldn't ever work? It was actually kind of funny, because you denied all of that to Brian, my buisness partner, and all the time, he was looking at screenshots which showed you to be lying to his face.

Then when confronted about the screenshots, by my partner you never replied....

Remember that? Remember?

Because I do. It showed your true character.

You know what I learned? Take screenshots of everything. And I have this thread saved as well, just in case you try to get out of this one too.

So cut the shit, and stop trying to justify your bullshit products by bashing every other EF sponsor, and their products.

 

[OMEGA]

Oral vs/ injectable dbol, as a matter of fact- will act differently in the body. By orally ingesting a product, you subject it to a first pass, and therefore more interaction with various enzymes in the liver. In fact, when you compare oral vs/ injectable versions of the EXACT same product, you find vastly different effects on many enzymes found in the liver, including aromatase, SHBG, etc...

Yeah....boldenone, as it clearly states in my book is the same thing as Dbol, but the boldenone we see on the market is estrified. Hence me saying "Boldenone" is estrified, because we have until this point ALWAYS seen it with the Undeclynate ester. Now, we're seeing it w/o the ester, and even with the propionate ester...but for most people, in common parlance (which was what I was speaking in): Boldenone = EQ (although we know this not to be 100% true)- people use "Boldenone" as the same thing as "EQ" and here, I was speaking to the average member of this board, not the people with an agenda to push their ineffective products- or alternately who take "inventor" credit for products they didn't originate (topical Yohimbe, Sesalean, etc...).

Anyway, where was I? ohh..ok...

Methylating a steroid allows it to survive the first pass through the liver, but by sublingual administration, it would appear to be a non-issue with this particular product.

Passing through the liver is the only reason that a product would be methylated. This product doesn't pass through the liver, so calling it D-bol w/o 17aa or EQ without an ester is the same thing...or calling it "boldenone" or even "Quinbolone" w/o an ester.

Passing through the liver is not done with Andriol, which is an oral testosterone that goes through the lymphatic system. There are ways to get a compound into the bloodstream without passing it first through the liver. typically, passing a steroid through the liver (when it is methylated) increases it's anabolic rating. We see this with Methyltestosterone, which is rated more highly than regular testosterone injectables (by Vida) as an anabolic agent.

This is most likely due to interaction with the aromatase enzyme in the liver, which is more pronounced with orals. D-Blade wouldn't go this route, so it would probably be less anabolic than Dbol, but also wouldn't effect liver enzymes as harshly either.

I think you're right...one of us has to go back to school...

You seem to have overlooked the liver as well as it's functions and it's importance in your absurd "AIFM" product, which avoids the liver in large part because of it's transdermal delivery method. Just as AIFM avoids the liver and therefore the source of the aromatase emzyme (making it useless as a shit flavored lollypop, for aromatase inhibition)- so does D-Blade.

The difference, is that D-Blade is TRYING to avoid the liver, and the aromatase enzyme, while AIFM "claims" to actually act on that enzyme.

This is also why Aromasin is far superior to AIFM- by virtue of oral delivery it interacts with the aromatase enzyme and SHBG much more strongly.

But please, keep going...your agenda is clear, and has been clear to the members here for a long time now.

thought your book was excelllent Anthony

hope you and Brian the best in the future

 

[manny78]

Hi, I am just wondering if the banner ive been seeing for dblade is true or not i went to the site and checked it out and apperently it is made by Dr.Ziegler who made the compound for dbol and on the site it says it works 500% better then any oral.

Dbols were developed by Ziegler not D-Blade. And Ziegler died many many years ago....lol 500% ? lol Dianabol is one of the strongest and most effective shit around. Maybe this D-Blad works, maybe they found a way to make a very effective oral without going through the 17aa path ? who knows ? Call me Ol' fashion, grandpa or whatever but I'll stick to dbols