Cycle Review Please

[southpaw45]

I have put much thought and research into juicing and I'm still not 100% convinced. Anyway if I were to do a cycle I have narrowed it down to this:

It would be a 9-11 week cycle consisting of

300 mg/week EQ
200 mg/week Primo


This is my first cycle. I'm looking to gain strength and put on around 10 lbs. Flexibility and joint/tendon strength is a must. I can not take deca b/c of the time it stays in your system. I know this is a very mild cycle but that's what I want. I also like the fact that all side effects will be a minimum b/c of the lack of test.

Suggestions are welcome.

 

[Outtlaw]

You need to do more research. It's one thing to run a mild cycle, but it's a whole nother story to run next to nothing. Nothing + nothing = 0 That's what you'll get outta this cycle. ZERO. You're better off staying natural.

 

[southpaw45]

You need to do more research. It's one thing to run a mild cycle, but it's a whole nother story to run next to nothing. Nothing + nothing = 0 That's what you'll get outta this cycle. ZERO. You're better off staying natural.

Well do you think I should bump it up to 500mg/week of EQ and 300 mg/week of Primo for 14 weeks? I want my gains to be permanent and put on study weight. These two seem the best for that. The reason for this being is my ligaments go through a lot stress and I dont want the muscles to get too big too fast and cause problems. I'll alsol be getting my omega-3 fatty acids and MSM to help out with joint strength health.

 

[Outtlaw]

Well do you think I should bump it up to 500mg/week of EQ and 300 mg/week of Primo for 14 weeks? I want my gains to be permanent and put on study weight. These two seem the best for that. The reason for this being is my ligaments go through a lot stress and I dont want the muscles to get too big too fast and cause problems. I'll alsol be getting my omega-3 fatty acids and MSM to help out with joint strength health.

The primo dose is to low IMO. I'd do 500-600mg of eq and drop the primo all together.

 

[DieselGunz]

The primo dose is to low IMO. I'd do 500-600mg of eq and drop the primo all together.

EQ @ 500 and test @ 250 just for libido and well being purposes

 

[mendo]

EQ @ 500 and test @ 250 just for libido and well being purposes

This works. Or you could just run 500 test E and add in adex and finasteride if you're worried about sides.

 

[DieselGunz]

This works. Or you could just run 500 test E and add in adex and finasteride if you're worried about sides.

I would run 500 but it looks lik ehe wants lower dosages so i thought i would shoot that out for him.


But very true on the ancilleries for sides

 

[bigtravis]

i personally wouldn't do the both together. either one with a test. all you need is a little more research.

 

[Bozwell]

I think eq stays in the system for a LONG time ,12 months I think
if you want 10lbs and no sides My first cycle was sust 250 @1 ml e5 days for 8 weeks and I kept 12 lbs and lost some fat ,recoverd fine I felt great while on and best of all it costs next to nothing
try it you WILL like it and test clears pretty fast from the system
but if you arnt botherd about cost I hear var or tbol would do the job well

 

[bobbie]

I personally suffer libido problems with EQ i would put in some test in there & up the dose of EQ. Run it longer EQ is mild & can take about 4-8 weeks to kick in. This is ur first go u want to make the best of it to get MAX gains

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

What is the story with you? Age? Size? Lifting history? It sounds like you are a college athlete, yes?

I agree with Bozwell and dg - Low dose test alone, like 250mg/E5D or low dose test with the EQ will produce good gains over 10-12 weeks. Sides from test at that dosage are generally low. I would possibly consider some fast acting orals like Winny, var or Tbol to get the whole thing kickstarted.

FWIW, I gained 16.5 on 350mg/week of test E with a dbol kicker over 11 weeks. Kept 10. Held the majority of the strength increase 6 weeks after the cycle ended.


Bluesman

 

[southpaw45]

Thanks for all the help.

As for stats: 6'2" 185 20 years old and yes College Athlete

I've been weight training since I was 14 and I'm very knowlegable. My weight training isn't just to put on mass, its more for specific muscle groups for specific actions. I'm very dedicated/disciplined to my diet and gym regimen but I think its time for a boost.

That's the one thing I was worried about with EQ is the half life. I haven't been able to find it, anyone know exacts? I also heard anavar would be good for my goals but it was getting harder and harder to find. Money is not that big of a restraint.

I need to research more on Test e because it sounds like that is direction yall are suggesting. But again with test would I pack on the weight rather quikly? I liked the primo/eq because gains were there but they are steady/permanent gains, also i liked the appetite and red cell booster with the eq.

So, 250mg/week Test e and 500mg/week EQ for 12 weeks would be best?

If I did run the test then it looks like I need to use some nolva after my cycle - At 250mg/week do you think there is going to be as harsh sides?

Would a straight cycle of anavar be a good plan B in case EQ has to long of a half life?

*****************Edit********************

EQ Is detectable for 5 months. Test E stays around for 3 months. If I start no later than the first week of november i'll be in the clear after ~ May 13 which will be fine.

 

[Bozwell]

Thanks for all the help.

As for stats: 6'2" 185 20 years old and yes College Athlete

I've been weight training since I was 14 and I'm very knowlegable. My weight training isn't just to put on mass, its more for specific muscle groups for specific actions. I'm very dedicated/disciplined to my diet and gym regimen but I think its time for a boost.

That's the one thing I was worried about with EQ is the half life. I haven't been able to find it, anyone know exacts? I also heard anavar would be good for my goals but it was getting harder and harder to find. Money is not that big of a restraint.

I need to research more on Test e because it sounds like that is direction yall are suggesting. But again with test would I pack on the weight rather quikly? I liked the primo/eq because gains were there but they are steady/permanent gains, also i liked the appetite and red cell booster with the eq.

So, 250mg/week Test e and 500mg/week EQ for 12 weeks would be best?

If I did run the test then it looks like I need to use some nolva after my cycle - At 250mg/week do you think there is going to be as harsh sides?

Would a straight cycle of anavar be a good plan B in case EQ has to long of a half life?

*****************Edit********************

EQ Is detectable for 5 months. Test E stays around for 3 months. If I start no later than the first week of november i'll be in the clear after ~ May 13 which will be fine.

Using the gear youve mentioned(test e eq and var) you could have youre selve a really good cycle,Ive never ran var or eq (yet) but I hear good things about them
weeks 1-10 test e @250mg
weeks 1-10 eq @ 400mg'
weeks 1-8 var @50mg ed
you will need to do pct after ANY cycle check the pct forum read up on hcg and nolva
if you do a var only cycle
say 70mg ed for 8 weeks then you could just use nolva for pct
what ever you choose good luck