Cycle help while on HRT?

[sman275]

Assume : 200 mg Cyp. (1/wk) w/ a.dex every 3rd day HRT

Goals : To take Tren ace, Var, and more T for short periods (24-28) days and still keep under the "radar" when I get my T levels checked @ Dr. office. Every 6 weeks!

Doing a cycle on HRT? Anyone old farts here got any ideas?

Stats: 44 yrs, 267#, 6'2", Prev. aas use. No cycles for 5 yrs?
PL and Nas comp. in past. I can still see the abs, but would like
to decrease bodyfat while increasing strength.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Avoid tren and more T since it'll bump your T levels and your doc will be like WTF?!?!?! Lower this bastard's dosage!!!

Not sure how much var or primo would effect it though there's bound to be some bump. I'd avoid any testing for a couple of weeks after you cycle down. Even then if it's high you can say you did a shot right before coming to the office and ask for another test in a couple of weeks

 

[njmuscleguy]

I guess another way of asking is how much time do you need to give yourself to come back down from a cycle to HRT levels before getting tested? I know it depends on the types of AAS, dosages, etc. But if anyone has experience with juggling cycles with HRT & testing, that would help!

 

[PCP316]

I just don't go back in till I'm sure my T levels are back down, which does take a while. My Doc only wants to get my blood every 3 months.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I just don't go back in till I'm sure my T levels are back down, which does take a while. My Doc only wants to get my blood every 3 months.

And how long is that? Do you just go by "feeling"? How long have you been doing it this way? If you have to see a doctor every 3 months to get tested, then is it safe to do an 8-week cycle, then go back down to HRT dosage for 4 weeks and then get tested?

 

[sman275]

And how long is that? Do you just go by "feeling"? How long have you been doing it this way? If you have to see a doctor every 3 months to get tested, then is it safe to do an 8-week cycle, then go back down to HRT dosage for 4 weeks and then get tested?

This is exactly what I want to know. Surely, I could cycle for 4-6 wks,
then time this thing so that I will test around 800 ng/dl at test time.
I can't be the first to try this. My initial blood and Comprehensive saliva
tests will be in next week. I want to be ready with a plan. Does any one know how to develop such a plan.

Prop/tren ace/var is what I would prefer and they clear the system quick.
I had extremely low test levels @ test time. (I made sure of it!) As Nelson
stated above, I don't want the Dr. freaking out and taking HRT away! I would like to develop a plan that would allow for 4 short cycles per year and still continue w/ HRT.

I know of others who have to get retested every 6 weeks and others who get tested every 3 months. Who out here has enough "SMARTS" to develop a plan that will work for the above two testing protocals?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Well, it's not just a question of smarts, but more so experience. After having done it a while, a person knows how to time it precisely. So we need to hear from guys have that have been on HRT for a while and still cycling in between blood work.

By the way, how old are you sman? Have you just started HRT? What does it consist of?

 

[r1]

Unfortunately, I don't have much lab work from my early HRT days, but my first HRT doc put me on a protocol of 400mg Test Cyp every 3 weeks aka The Feel Like Shit Program.

I have 2 lab results from that time. One was taken during the 1st week after administration.

Total T: 1866 ng/dL (range = 241 to 827)

One was taken during the 3rd week after administration:

Total T: 907 ng/dL (range = 241 to 827)

R1

 

[lovemoney]

this is what i di for my hrt blood test 2 weeks ago,i was prescibed test cyp 200ng every 2 weeks,but i took 500 week test e,by the way this hrt progream started the 1st week of jan 07.25 days before the hrt blood test i dropped the e and went to prop,1 week before the blood test i shot nothing,results came to 260 test level and my doc is gonna up my dosage lol!just give 3 weeks for long esters to clear,i heard prop cleares in 3 days but i gave it a week to be safe.oh my prop dosage for those 2 weeks was 100mg eod.hope this helps

 

[sman275]

Well, it's not just a question of smarts, but more so experience. After having done it a while, a person knows how to time it precisely. So we need to hear from guys have that have been on HRT for a while and still cycling in between blood work.

By the way, how old are you sman? Have you just started HRT? What does it consist of?

44, with a history of use. (not abuse) Protocal - Hatfield "The Scientific Approach" Things have changed over the years. I've been clean for around 5 years now. I blew two (L4, L5 area) discs training for a NAS meet. Bextra prescribed for swelling, body reabsorbed extruded disc material. Dr told me it was just a matter of time before they compressed and leaked again if I continued lifting heavy and doing strongman comps.
I miss competing! HRT will start next week under Dr's care. He has helped other "old" lifters that I know, so I decided to check him out. Others are on 200 mg/wk cyp, A-dex e3d, and HCG. Couple of guys are also doing HGH @ 4iu/d (2-WAKEUP, 2-AFTER LUNCH) My saliva tests take 7-10 days for the results. I will probably start next week!

 

[PCP316]

And how long is that? Do you just go by "feeling"? How long have you been doing it this way? If you have to see a doctor every 3 months to get tested, then is it safe to do an 8-week cycle, then go back down to HRT dosage for 4 weeks and then get tested?

Good question, in the past I would have enough of my HRT supply to just go back to that dose, this last time didn't work like that. I had to go get blood work done before getting a refill, this was after about a month post cycle, I thought it would be no problem. My test levels came back at 1050, my doctor called me and said I needed to retest after another month. I should have used this to let her know I was cycling, but chose not to for some reason. So next time I will make sure I have enough on the refills and wait about two months post cycle to get levels checked. I'm known by her for not coming around to much to get much of anything other than refills and bloodwork. And about the 8 wk cycle theory, sounds good with short esters. I wouldn't really go back to HRT dose right after though cause your levels are still going to high due to accumulation of test over the 8 wk cycle.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Hmm... sounds like there's going to be alot of trial and error for a while until I figure out how long it takes for my body to clear the test. Balancing act for sure!