Cycle advice please??

[Jonezee]

Hi guys, after much reading I've decided to do my second cycle, just some advice really guys.
My first cycle was a 10 week cycle of test and a pct of tamoxifen which worked lovely with no complications.
This course I have duratest and decca which is highly rated by the person I get it off so just wanted points of view really??
Also tamo is the most readily available pct on the Market where I live. Will it be ok??
Thanks in advance.
Tom

 

[Essie]

If you intend on using Deca, your system is going to be shut down horribly and just tamo is not going to be enough. Do a search on the site for pct ... there is a lot of info on that which would guide you in the right direction ... but hcg and nolvadex should definately be in there.

What are your stats ... age, height, weight, training routine, diet etc?

 

[Jonezee]

I will reply with my stats when I get 5 mins mate. What do you mean shut down horribly?? Thanks for your help mate

 

[EZ_E]

Need some stats...

PCT needs improvement, read the stckiy "Best PCT of 2010" in the PCT forum...

Never run deca & nolva together...

Your source will recommend anything if he wants to sell you something....

~EZ

 

[Essie]

EZ ... not offending you in any way Bro ... I have used Deca on cycle and Nolva in PCT ... why is it a bad idea?

 

[EZ_E]

Nolvadex can make progesterone-based gynecomastia. Assuming you are prone to such gynecomastia....

Needto gave me a more detailed answer a couple years ago, but I accidentally deleted it...

~EZ

 

[needtogetaas]

EZ ... not offending you in any way Bro ... I have used Deca on cycle and Nolva in PCT ... why is it a bad idea?

nolvadex is clinically proven to up regulate the (PR) if you know what that is anyway lol...

Now you may not have a problem with that if you are not prone to problems in this area however many people are and even people who are often not do end up with problems from this combo... especially with da dreaded deca dick shining its lovely face during pct O what fun....

Do some more research my friends. Even you Essie who just a post ago pretty much were trying to say that " omg deca is going to shut you down hard core" as if a bit of deca is going to cause more shut down to the HPTA then say him adding in another 500mg of test a week or 600mg of eq and or some masterone...

No... It is rather that people need to understand that deca needs a longer clearance allowance time after the cycle is over thus a longer pct is needed and also that it takes a different kind of pct as well... One must address the high levels of prolactin and progesterone going into pct after a cycle of deca.

A few different ways this can be done. One would be to drop the deca before the test and add in a good dht for the last few weeks of the cycle. Like provirone at 25mg twice a day for the last 4 weeks. Cycle looking something like this

weeks
1-12 test 500mg a week
1-10 deca 300mg every week
6-10 provirone 25mg twice a day.. or even weeks 1-10 masterone 100mg every other day is a good one too.

This is a way to synergisticly stack different steroids so that they complement each others strengths and weaknesses.

Another way would be to add something into pct that lowers estrogen, progesterone, and prolactin.. A combo of light aromasin and some dostinex/cabralone along with a light dose of clomid is one pct stile of doing it..

Forma-stanzol, unleashed and post cycle combo and some hcgenerate is another way...

pct should start the day the cycle ends and run 6-8 weeks past the cycle. Hcg if used should always be used during a cycle if one can rather then after. Preventing shut down is a lot more effective then trying to bring things back from the dead.



Much love for everyone here today..

 

[zedhed]

There you have it bro, from two good bros and then the Master himself. Good luck !