Cycle advice?! Intermediate user.

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Right, short and sweet one here.
Bodybuilding since 14, training good and diet spot on when training hard.

I like to train for 4/5 months solidly and rest for 2 months or so, for maintenance. To be honest need down time.

My first cycle in 2005, sustanon, dianabol, deca durabolin - mass cycle - got huge, and strength went through the roof. I put on some serious size, kept large amount of muscle mass, very happy with cycle. Repeated this cycle again 8 months after. Big break as training as physio and on placements. Had problens of sore nips and massive water retention. But coped with the normal side effects.

Third cycle, trenbolone, anavar, clenbuterol and winstrol. Hard cycle on me with loads of side effects. Had to drop winstrol and clenbuterol. Nevertheless good size. However had problem simular to "deca dick'. Eventually all sorted.

Been training naturally for several years. 2009 suffered with meningitis and had 8 months off totally. Been training again till now.

I am contemplating something new and thought you guys (ladies) might be able to help. Maybe simple cycle of test e. (500mg) per week for 12 weeks.

Goals to bulk and cut up, limited water retension and no more probs in the bed room, Viagra helped lol. I maybe prone to gyno.

Suggestion welcome and thanks.

 

[Judo Tom]

I love test only cycles. sides are super easy to deal w/ and you can really accomplish almost any goal out there especially for none pro bodybuilders. save some $$ you would spend on other gear and supps and put it towards good food, good protein and you will have a great cycle.

 

[Mornedn]

^^^^^^^^ I agree !!!! Test only is awesome and easy to recover from!

 

[EZ_E]

Right, short and sweet one here.
Bodybuilding since 14, training good and diet spot on when training hard.

I like to train for 4/5 months solidly and rest for 2 months or so, for maintenance. To be honest need down time.

My first cycle in 2005, sustanon, dianabol, deca durabolin - mass cycle - got huge, and strength went through the roof. I put on some serious size, kept large amount of muscle mass, very happy with cycle. Repeated this cycle again 8 months after. Big break as training as physio and on placements. Had problens of sore nips and massive water retention. But coped with the normal side effects.

Third cycle, trenbolone, anavar, clenbuterol and winstrol. Hard cycle on me with loads of side effects. Had to drop winstrol and clenbuterol. Nevertheless good size. However had problem simular to "deca dick'. Eventually all sorted.

Good Lord, why would you run this??

Been training naturally for several years. 2009 suffered with meningitis and had 8 months off totally. Been training again till now.

I am contemplating something new and thought you guys (ladies) might be able to help. Maybe simple cycle of test e. (500mg) per week for 12 weeks.

Goals to bulk and cut up, limited water retension and no more probs in the bed room, Viagra helped lol. I maybe prone to gyno.

Suggestion welcome and thanks.

Test only would be a great "back to basics" cycle...

Not crazy about the idea of 4-5 months training and 2 months off...do you take days off during that 4-5 months? Why not 1-2 weeks off every 2-3 months?

~EZ

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

EZ-E I see your point, probably not explained that well.... I just know my own body after training and using AS - it really takes it out of me, constantly training, resting and more importantly keeping on top of the diet, it's all hard work. Joints get a major pounding too etc. So take time off but only maintenance training, I find it quite refreshing. Then after some "down time" I'm ready to hit it hard again, helps with motivation.

With regards to training itself, my weeks vary Between 4 to 5 sessions. I just know when im tired and ache a little its time to to rest. Cheers for all your input.

 

[thebigoz]

Stopping training for 2 months is a great way to lose everything you gained from a cycle. I would take more frequent, smaller breaks if anything. Take a week off every couple of months. Or change to some light lifting instead. Stopping altogether is a waste.

I'd recommend a Test-E cycle with an oral kicker. If you start seeing estrogen related sides, just throw in some adex ED until they subside. You won't have any bedroom problems with that much Test, that's for sure

1-10 Test-E @ 500mg EW
1-6 Var @ 60mg ED


One more small piece of advice, don't use 'bulk' AND 'cut' in the same sentence when talking goals You're either bulking, or you're cutting. Recomping is a different story.

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Hi. Sorry for delay in replying. Thank you for all your input. I just put an order in for Test. E. and anavar as discussed!! Anavar is expensive stuff (quoted £450 for 6 weeks supply). Does that sound right?!?

I have been reading a little about PCTs, in particular unleash, bridge and other products. Can someone provide me with a good link to read or provide me with comprehensive breakdown in relation to my cycle of what might be required. I have nolvadex, clomid and hcg already purchased if needed.

I will be starting cycle on the first week of September. I will put a log on here when I start and keep everyone updated.

 

[lartinos]

You need to run an aromatase inhibitor..

 

[EZ_E]

Hi. Sorry for delay in replying. Thank you for all your input. I just put an order in for Test. E. and anavar as discussed!! Anavar is expensive stuff (quoted £450 for 6 weeks supply). Does that sound right?!?

I have been reading a little about PCTs, in particular unleash, bridge and other products. Can someone provide me with a good link to read or provide me with comprehensive breakdown in relation to my cycle of what might be required. I have nolvadex, clomid and hcg already purchased if needed.

I will be starting cycle on the first week of September. I will put a log on here when I start and keep everyone updated.

Need To Build Muscle Inc.

HCGenerate last 4-5 weeks
Forma Stanzol right after last pin = 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed 2 weeks later = 5 weeks
Then run Bridge

~EZ

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Right guys and girlies,
My AAS arrived today, just waiting for other products to arrive (I have ordered HCGenerate, unleash, Forma Stanzol and Bridge, cost a fair few pennies).
Going to start soon as all products have arrived. Please have final critique ……….. Thanks.

Here my cycle,
Week 1-12 Test. E (@500mg per week, split Monday & Thursday)
Week 1-6 Anavar (@60mg per day, spilt AM & PM)

Week 2-12 Nolvadex (@20mg per day, split am and pm)

Week 13-16 HGH shots: 7 days after last injection of Test. E.
week 13, day 1 commence - 3000IU
5 days after 3000IU
5 days after 1500IU
5 days after 1500IU
5 days after last 1500IU

Week 16-19 Clomid (100mg per day)
Week 16-19 Nolvadex (@20mg per day, split am and pm)

Week 1-12 HCGenerate (5 caps per day, @3am & 2pm)

I have Armidex if needed.

I never tried Needtobuildmuscle products but going give them a go. I am still confused when to take them, or the dosages to use, everyone seems to have their own ways. Help please. I have spoken to a few friends and they never use them.

So I have:
FormaStanzol
Unleash
& Bridge

I will run HCGenerate throughout the cycle? Some people tend to run in PCT or during the cycle? Or both? Help please.

Question 1.
I have done traditional HGH in the PCT stages, however, tempted to do throughout the cycle? Or even just one at week 6. Experiences and opinions please?

Question 2.
I have enough Anavar for full cycle of 12 weeks, is this recommended or shall I save it till the next cycle?

Can someone provide me with detailed account of when to take needtobuildmuscle products please. I’m finding this all difficult, just wanna start ……….

Thanks
Chris

 

[Judo Tom]

dont run var 12 weeks.. not good.

you mentioned this 2months off thing and that training and aas take it out of you and beat up your body.. you need to figure out how to train and cycle so it improves you and makes you feel better or else what is the point. consistently taking 2months off at a time will stop your progress.

what is your diet and routine like? do you over train? do you get enough food, enough rest? if you cant figure out how to stay in the gym w/out taking 2 months off there really is no point in cycling like you are.

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Cheers for the input. I dont stop training for two months, I do a three day split instead of a five day and reduce the weights I lift. I get plenty of rest, diet and training is good. Im a big believer of correct nutrition. Been bodybuilding for 14 years now!! Very happy with my physique. On my previous cycle I did anavar for 7 weeks, minimal side effects.

I look forward to more comments regarding previous post.

 

[Judo Tom]

again you should just try something w/ more frequent but shorter maintenance periods.

i do wendler 5/3/1 and that is 3 weeks heavy/hard 1 week maintenance. repeat.

im not burnt out by 3 weeks but taking that 1 week easy gets me fired up to attack the weights heavy again.. repeat.. works well lots of fun and im making great gains.

maybe switch up routines or styles or something.. again 2 months is a long break.

good luck

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Cheers Tom. Yes will give that a try! Do you use needyobuildmusle products?!!

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Bump

 

[Judo Tom]

every single product ive tried from them has been top notch.

what are you looking to use?

there pct stuff is awesome and i really love formastanzol.. bridge and gear is great...

what are you looking at and ill let you know what i think, heard or experienced.

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Thanks for the help. I really hope the products are good, well give em a go anyway.

Here's my original post. Thought it be easier to post everything again, so we on the same page.

Thanks again......

Right guys and girlies,
My AAS arrived today, just waiting for other products to arrive (I have ordered HCGenerate, unleash, Forma Stanzol and Bridge, cost a fair few pennies).
Going to start soon as all products have arrived. Please have final critique ……….. Thanks.

Here my cycle,
Week 1-12 Test. E (@500mg per week, split Monday & Thursday)
Week 1-6 anavar (@60mg per day, spilt AM & PM)

Week 2-12 Nolvadex (@20mg per day, split am and pm)

Week 13-16 HGH shots: 7 days after last injection of Test. E.
week 13, day 1 commence - 3000IU
5 days after 3000IU
5 days after 1500IU
5 days after 1500IU
5 days after last 1500IU

Week 16-19 Clomid (100mg per day)
Week 16-19 Nolvadex (@20mg per day, split am and pm)

Week 1-12 HCGenerate (5 caps per day, @3am & 2pm)

I have Armidex if needed.

I never tried Needtobuildmuscle products but going give them a go. I am still confused when to take them, or the dosages to use, everyone seems to have their own ways. Help please. I have spoken to a few friends and they never use them.

So I have:
FormaStanzol
Unleash
& Bridge

I will run HCGenerate throughout the cycle? Some people tend to run in PCT or during the cycle? Or both? Help please.

Question 1.
I have done traditional HGH in the PCT stages, however, tempted to do throughout the cycle? Or even just one at week 6. Experiences and opinions please?

Question 2.
I have enough anavar for full cycle of 12 weeks, is this recommended or shall I save it till the next cycle?

Can someone provide me with detailed account of when to take needtobuildmuscle products please. I’m finding this all difficult

 

[Gettingtobigformydesmo]

Right guys, I found the sticky in NTBM products in relation to cycle support and PCT.

To be honest I always used traditional nolva and clomid. With little problems.

So I have deduced the following and tailored to my cycle and me.

Test. E. 500 mg per week - 12wks
Anavar 60mg per day - 6 wks

I will use HCGenerate whilst on cycle, so for 12 weeks.

Unleash to be used week 8 to week 16 inclusively.

Start PCT, 2 weeks post last injection of T. using HGH as normal doses.

I will use forma-Stanzol after last injection for 7 weeks. In conjunction with this I will use bridge until my next cycle.

I'm still little unsure about dropping nolva and clomid. Can I combine these as well ?! Or maybe just use clomid?

I always used nolva whilst on cycle, so weeks 1 to 12. However, N2guard is recommended instead. Even though good reviews out there about NTBM products I am still little concerned about dropping tradition methods.

Thanks and train hard.