Cycle A, B, C - Choose one!

[604guy]

26years old
2 cycles experience
8years training (3 years consistently)
150lbs 8% fat currently (max weight 175lbs 16% bf)
Goal: Gain mass
Concerns: Penis limp (deca dick)

Cycle A

1 - 16 Test e or c 500 mg ew
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
6 - 10 dbol 30 mg ed
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle B

1 - 6 dbol 30 mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
7 - 14 Tren Ace 75mg eod
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle C

1 - 14 EQ 300mg ew
6 - 12 Dbol 30mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

 

[mookymonkey]

tren and deca will be the deciding factor due to your concerns.... have you ever concidered primo at all?

 

[IceIzNoble]

How tall are you?
Your PCT needs to be improved loads.

Cycle A is good for mass but you need HCGenerate, Post Cycle / Unleashed for PCT. Instead of tamox.
The test will keep your libido high.

IcE

 

[gwilym]

1 - 16 Test e or c 500 mg ew
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
6 - 10 dbol 30 mg ed
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

I'm no expert but have read huge amounts of advice my understanding is Deca and Nolva should not be used with one another. question

Why dbol at weeks 6-10 it's normally used during the 1st 4 weeks..

Cycle B

1 - 6 dbol 30 mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
7 - 14 Tren Ace 75mg eod
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle C

1 - 14 EQ 300mg ew
6 - 12 Dbol 30mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5[/QUOTE]

Personally I would go for cycle B BUT WOULD NOT GO BEYOND 12 weeks 14 as an absolute Max..wait for some of the keys guys to comment prior to commencing and good luck

 

[IceIzNoble]

^What he said about the dbol, it's usually used as a kickstart and you only need to run it for 4 weeks.

IcE

 

[LetsGrow]

1 - 16 Test e or c 500 mg ew
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
6 - 10 dbol 30 mg ed
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

I'm no expert but have read huge amounts of advice my understanding is Deca and Nolva should not be used with one another. question

Why dbol at weeks 6-10 it's normally used during the 1st 4 weeks..

Cycle B

1 - 6 dbol 30 mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
7 - 14 Tren Ace 75mg eod
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle C

1 - 14 EQ 300mg ew
6 - 12 Dbol 30mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

Personally I would go for cycle B BUT WOULD NOT GO BEYOND 12 weeks 14 as an absolute Max..wait for some of the keys guys to comment prior to commencing and good luck[/QUOTE]

Do NOT run Nolva if you run tren

 

[curls4girls]

uuuh i vote cycle D. What these guys said ^^^^

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

tel you what ive learned... i would do 6-8 weeks max, then pct, then cycle back on... Time on equals time off.... You can retain more of your gains if you do it htis way....

 

[joeblow12345]

26years old
2 cycles experience
8years training (3 years consistently)
150lbs 8% fat currently (max weight 175lbs 16% bf)
Goal: Gain mass
Concerns: Penis limp (deca dick)

Cycle A

1 - 16 Test e or c 500 mg ew
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
6 - 10 dbol 30 mg ed
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle B

1 - 6 dbol 30 mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
7 - 14 Tren Ace 75mg eod
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle C

1 - 14 EQ 300mg ew
6 - 12 Dbol 30mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

First nolva should not be used with deca or tren. Second if you run eq the dose is to low, min 500 mgs. If you choose tren or deca u need caber or bromo to prevent limp dick. You need an ai during the hole cycle use arimadex or aromasin. Have letro available just in case. Also you might consider adding hcg. I personally add it in pct but some use it through out the cycle its all dependent on your needs. I use clomid for pct along with tribulus and hcg. If your not using deca, tren you can add nolva if you feel you need it. I am a fan of the 16 week cycles it gives you time to make considerable gains. With the items you have available I would run it this way.

1-16 test e 500 mgs
1-14 eq 500 mgs
1-6 dbol 40 mgs day
8-14 tren ace 75 mgs eod
Pct -clomid, hcg, tribulus,
Arimadex or aromasin as needed throughout.
Caber .25 or. 5 eod or as needed during tren.

This cycle will yield solid lean mass gains and a shitload of strength.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using EliteFitness

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

cycle one... mass gainer... Get your pct right....