Cutting STUFF - Need some advice

[floridalife]

Ok guys I have some basic knowledge on gianing steroids etc..

But i'm going to need to shred here soon...

Need your advice.. i see all kind of refferences to t3 and clen and stuff related to cutting..

Are these actually steroids?

What can i use that is non steroidal to severly aid in cutting/rapid fat loss?

Name a stack, legal/non etc and what exactly these things are, and any possible effects from them..and time frames to results etc This could wind up being a nice sticky

 

[jmt24]

i dont use t3, just afraid of screwing up my thyroid. id run clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off with trex or stim x. diet is major part of cutting, so id look up some sample diets and post one there if you need some help.

 

[boxerjake]

T-3 and clen are not steroids ... T-3 and T-4 are thyroid stimulators that get your furnace firing on high .. abuse them and you'll get a lifetime supply from your doctor as knocking out your own thyroid can result from abuse of dosage .

Best do a ton of reading before venturing to DNP or T-3 .. Some guys actually use an oral thermometer to check there core tempature and adjust from there .. bit to hardcore for my liking ...

And ECA stack will work wonders if you have never try'ed it before .. first timers most often do well the first time out ..

Then maybe you could move into clen and T-3 stack down the road ..

Diet and cardio will get you there but might take a bit longer then you like .. ??

On the chemical front there are tons of products you can try ... too many to list

Nearly all the pre-contest tactics will help .. maybe try doing some reading in the bodybuilding pre-contest section and you might find a few clues that will work for your application

 

[floridalife]

I know the diet and cardio thing.. So what's this ECA stack you speak of, thanks so much guys

 

[boxerjake]

Ephedrine caffine and asprin ... it's a " thermo " meaning it will increase your core tempature and aid burning calories ..

Kinda low level speed run .... 3 times a day with this combination will work wonders if you've never try'ed it before , good kick if done 1/2 before hitting the gym .

 

[floridalife]

well i've used hydroxy and stacker III etc i don't like jitters.. just was wondering what else was out there injectables, topicals etc that REALLY work

thanks!

 

[swolenole]

well i've used hydroxy and stacker III etc i don't like jitters.. just was wondering what else was out there injectables, topicals etc that REALLY work

thanks!

clen 2 weeks on/2 weeks off (you will have the jitters) best cutter for me 10-15 weeks 50mg Var/50mg proviron ED-cut down to a clean 3000 cals a day. I've never used T-3 because I'm afraid of doing something permanent to my thyroid. But unless you are wealthy..you will need to find a powder source for var.

 

[metamorphasis]

Get a hold of some yohimburn ES (YES), topical fat burner.
Works great!

 

[02gixxersix2]

Actually most studies show that T3 use will not permenently shut you down. They get this information from people who were misdisagnosed and had been on a high dose of thyroid hormones for years and even when ended abruptly your body will bounce back. Now the doseages the pros use may be way out of the range of what is recoverable I don't know. Still not something to play around with. Clen is more dangerous IMO. The best cutting stack would be t-rex, r-ala, and sesapure coupled with a good diet and cardio. Even when eating a surplus of calories I can't seem to gain fat on just r-ala and sesapure, and T-rex is nothing short of amazing for fat burning. Also make sure to get enough EFA's throughout the day and maybe throw in some L-carnitine.

 

[tempest2003]

cocaine is a good one, all the celebs over here in the states use it, just make sure you're getting that pure columbian