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Cutting - rep range?
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Trendsetter21
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GUARDIAN said:
100% Agreed. Diet and Cardio, rep range means nothing. You can still get just as cut doing high weight low reps with proper diet and cardio. I think fitness mags made up this myth to sell more magazines.
Lift Chief
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agree with above-- you want to lift in the rep range that's best for building muscle-- diet is what will give you definition.
gjohnson5
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Well , I'm going to disagree.
If you are doing low rep ranges , how many people are going to do that type of exercise on a caloric deficit? It makes no sense to do that type work on low calories. if this is the case why would anyone do a high rep scheme being 1000 calories above maintenance?
You can absolutely tone muscle with circuit training type exercise, but the idea can be expanded to any higher rep low rest workout scheme --- diet permitting
If you are doing low rep ranges , how many people are going to do that type of exercise on a caloric deficit? It makes no sense to do that type work on low calories. if this is the case why would anyone do a high rep scheme being 1000 calories above maintenance?
You can absolutely tone muscle with circuit training type exercise, but the idea can be expanded to any higher rep low rest workout scheme --- diet permitting
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djeclipse
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gjohnson5 said:
I have to completly disagree with you on this one.
I personally lost 20lbs and was still able to add weight to to the bar (add muscle) while training heavy compound lifts (squat, Deads, pendlay rows, Over head press, bench) in the 5 rep range.
I was able to cut weight/ fat and add muscle. I know this becasue the scale went down while my lifts went up.
The question is why would anyone want to do high rep stuff while trying to cut.
Why would you want to sacrafise and lose muscle while cutting by doing high rep stuff. When you can keep your strength/ muscle and still be able to cut with a proper program.
Circut training never works, you want to keep your cardio seperate from lifting. As you want to loose fat but keep the muscle.
djeclipse said:
Yeah, I agree.
I went for a whole page with this guy. He told me that he viewed high rep training as 500+ reps of hindu suqats(which is just a cardio excercise really). He said I had a narrow view of training because I thought a 30 rep set of bench was high rep. Of course, I was talking in context of maximum strength and hypertrophic training. Which in case, 30 reps is pretty damn high. I guess some find that a 500 rep super lightweight set is really getting your swell on.
djeclipse
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dabuffguy said:Yeah, I agree.
I went for a whole page with this guy. He told me that he viewed high rep training as 500+ reps of hindu suqats(which is just a cardio excercise really). He said I had a narrow view of training because I thought a 30 rep set of bench was high rep. Of course, I was talking in context of maximum strength and hypertrophic training. Which in case, 30 reps is pretty damn high. I guess some find that a 500 rep super lightweight set is really getting your swell on.
500 reps? Now that's simply rediculous. lol
djeclipse said:
yup. but, I guess his point was that you would get more cut doing that. Of course cardio will get you toned up. That's the whole point really.
But wen talking about weight lifting and building muscle, a 350lb+ squat will build an exponential amount of more muscle.
djeclipse
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gjohnson5 said:
You just aren't getting it. For loosing weight and general health cardio is important.
I always do cardio/ play some kind of sport no matter what my goals are, gain weight/ add muscle, loose weight/ cut fat/ gian muscle it doesn't matter. Improving your cardiovascular system is simply good for everyone.
If you only do cardio, burn a tone of calories with no real weight training in your program you will loose muscle (fat too), there's no way around that.
But with proper training and programming you can loose fat and maintain, even gain muscle. but you're not going to do that with lame 500 rep sets of anything.
gjohnson5 said:
We are talking about weight lifting, not a high rep 100,000 step jog. Don't start that. It's ridiculous to say that a run is high rep excercise. Of course it is. It's just running, not a high rep excercise.
Of course running does stimulate muscle growth, and so does jump rope, but it doesn't build muscle on the scale that heavy rep lifting does. Not even close.
Cardio, is short for the term cardiovascular training, or primarily for excercising the heart and vascular system. Secondarily stimulates muscle growth
Weight lifiting is to primarily stimulate the muscle systems. secondarily stimulates the cardio vascular system.
Doing BOTH is required to primarily stimulate both for best cutting/tone. Growing the muscle, and cutting the fat from cardio is how you cut. High rep excecise isn't going to build significant mass.
We don't care about just being toned up, we want to be big and toned up. They way to do that is to lift heavy weight, low rep to build muscle and do additional cardio ("high rep" lol) to keep the fat down. It's really simple actually. Not really anything to debate about.
