Cutting - rep range?

[djeclipse]

Well , I'm going to disagree.

If you are doing low rep ranges , how many people are going to do that type of exercise on a caloric deficit? It makes no sense to do that type work on low calories. if this is the case why would anyone do a high rep scheme being 1000 calories above maintenance?

You can absolutely tone muscle with circuit training type exercise, but the idea can be expanded to any higher rep low rest workout scheme --- diet permitting

I have to completly disagree with you on this one.

I personally lost 20lbs and was still able to add weight to to the bar (add muscle) while training heavy compound lifts (squat, Deads, pendlay rows, Over head press, bench) in the 5 rep range.

I was able to cut weight/ fat and add muscle. I know this becasue the scale went down while my lifts went up.

The question is why would anyone want to do high rep stuff while trying to cut.

Why would you want to sacrafise and lose muscle while cutting by doing high rep stuff. When you can keep your strength/ muscle and still be able to cut with a proper program.

Circut training never works, you want to keep your cardio seperate from lifting. As you want to loose fat but keep the muscle.

 

[dabuffguy]

I have to completly disagree with you on this one.

I personally lost 20lbs and was still able to add weight to to the bar (add muscle) while training heavy compound lifts (squat, Deads, pendlay rows, Over head press, bench) in the 5 rep range.

I was able to cut weight/ fat and add muscle. I know this becasue the scale went down while my lifts went up.

The question is why would anyone want to do high rep stuff while trying to cut.

Why would you want to sacrafise and lose muscle while cutting by doing high rep stuff. When you can keep your strength/ muscle and still be able to cut with a proper program.

Circut training never works, you want to keep your cardio seperate from lifting. As you want to loose fat but keep the muscle.

+1

 

[djeclipse]

+1

What? We agree on something? The world is coming to an end now...

lol

 

[dabuffguy]

What? We agree on something? The world is coming to an end now...

lol

Yeah, I agree.

I went for a whole page with this guy. He told me that he viewed high rep training as 500+ reps of hindu suqats(which is just a cardio excercise really). He said I had a narrow view of training because I thought a 30 rep set of bench was high rep. Of course, I was talking in context of maximum strength and hypertrophic training. Which in case, 30 reps is pretty damn high. I guess some find that a 500 rep super lightweight set is really getting your swell on.

 

[djeclipse]

Yeah, I agree.

I went for a whole page with this guy. He told me that he viewed high rep training as 500+ reps of hindu suqats(which is just a cardio excercise really). He said I had a narrow view of training because I thought a 30 rep set of bench was high rep. Of course, I was talking in context of maximum strength and hypertrophic training. Which in case, 30 reps is pretty damn high. I guess some find that a 500 rep super lightweight set is really getting your swell on.

500 reps? Now that's simply rediculous. lol

 

[dabuffguy]

500 reps? Now that's simply rediculous. lol

yup. but, I guess his point was that you would get more cut doing that. Of course cardio will get you toned up. That's the whole point really.
But wen talking about weight lifting and building muscle, a 350lb+ squat will build an exponential amount of more muscle.

 

[djeclipse]

yup. but, I guess his point was that you would get more cut doing that. Of course cardio will get you toned up. That's the whole point really.
But wen talking about weight lifting and building muscle, a 350lb+ squat will build an exponential amount of more muscle.

500 rep anything is not weight lifting, it is cardio like you say. You may as well go jogging, rowing, biking as the weight used for a 500 rep anything is not enough to stimulate any real muscle growth.

 

[jon1320]

Take it or leave it:
Last summer I was in great condition. A nice wake me up run in the morning (20 mins / 3ish miles), a good 1- 1.5hr lifting session six hours later, then a 30min walk inclined on the treadmill.
Lots of water, and a whole shit ton of sweating!

 

[gjohnson5]

Hmmm... running, walking and 1.5 hour lifting session in the same day?

Take it or leave it:
Last summer I was in great condition. A nice wake me up run in the morning (20 mins / 3ish miles), a good 1- 1.5hr lifting session six hours later, then a 30min walk inclined on the treadmill.
Lots of water, and a whole shit ton of sweating!

 

[dabuffguy]

Hmmm... running, walking and 1.5 hour lifting session in the same day?

sure, why not?

pro athletes do twice that much daily atleast.