Cutting prop with Ethyl Oleate?

[burnthiscorpse]

So my prop hurts like a bitch. At the advice of a few bros I ordered some EO to cut it with. It just arrived. I dont need to pin til tomorrow but I had two questions:

1) I was either going to do 1ml or .5 ml of EO per ml of prop. which would be better?

2) doest the EO need to be sterilized? I ordered it from a reputable lab supply place that many of us use. What would be the proper way to sterilize it if needed?

 

[Olivelawn]

So my prop hurts like a bitch. At the advice of a few bros I ordered some EO to cut it with. It just arrived. I dont need to pin til tomorrow but I had two questions:

1) I was either going to do 1ml or .5 ml of EO per ml of prop. which would be better?

2) doest the EO need to be sterilized? I ordered it from a reputable lab supply place that many of us use. What would be the proper way to sterilize it if needed?

1. 1ml per ml of prop.

2. yes, place it in a pot of boling water with a pair of tongs for 10 minutes that will kill off anything in there. IF it's in a sealed vial with a rubber stopper, then put a pin in the top of it to let the gases out as it bolis. If you don't the vial could explode.

3. Be sure not to pre-load anything as the EO will eat through rubber after a little while.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

yeah its a sealed vial. yes dont worry I will be venting it

 

[hesnobradpitt]

If its the site im thinging of it should say sterile EO when you brought it .
i have used it at 1/2 with great success .

Cooking gear does not kill all bacteria. Some bacteria can live at high temperatures so I never, ever recommend just baking (never boiling) the gear to make it sterile. BA is what neutralizes the bacteria, it is not the heat.

If you email the suplyer they will tell you , best would be to filter with whatman filter.

Brad.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Solvents

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[rockdoc]

I've used this EO a lot at 1:1 with prop and it cuts out about 90% of the pain. You do not need to sterilize it.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I've used this EO a lot at 1:1 with prop and it cuts out about 90% of the pain. You do not need to sterilize it.

The shit I posted in the link ^^^^^ ?????

 

[mr.nitro]

it comes in a sealed vial, so it may be sterile already.

 

[centeroiler]

This should clear it up. According to their site:

"Please Note: Although all of the solvents and chemicals we sell are all originally USP or NF grade, they are purchased in bulk containers and re-bottled. The re-bottling process takes place in a very clean environment, with the utmost care for maintaining the product's purity. However, since the re-bottling process does not take place in an FDA certified clean room, these products are technically no longer USP or NF grade. However, we guarantee the original potency of all re-bottled products."

Definitions:


U.S.P.

A chemical grade of sufficient purity to meet or exceed requirements of the U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP); acceptable for food, drug, or medicinal use; may be used for most laboratory purposes.
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N.F.

A grade of sufficient purity to meet or exceed requirements of the National Formulary (NF).
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Its most likely G2G. But, if it were me, I'd filter it anyway. Its 5 minutes and a $4.00 filter for peace of mind. Done. Priceless.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

^^^ thanks bro. I actually got the 411 on it earlier and its G2G

now we will see if it works in the morning.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Hit 1cc prop with .5ml EO this morning in my glute. What a difference!!!! No pain. 10 hrs later now and its just a tiny bit sore. Not like the usual gun shot wound. No big "prop knot" in my muscle.
I was nervous this morning because I read that some have very bad reactions to EO, severe swelling ect..pain worse than prop. The other reviews were best gear ever in EO. so I had a 50/50 shot.
A little of the EO that dripped down the pin made the insertion sting a bit. It also stung a bit during injection but not much. I noticed that even though I was pushing through a 23g pin (which is easy to push anyhow) it really diluted it, because it went in like butter. Pretty happy so far. We shall see when I hit a delt with it.
Thanks to BigTravis for the heads up on the EO.

 

[rockdoc]

If you're cutting with EO, you can move up to a 25 gauge now no problem. Also, the stinging is not due to the EO, its due to not letting the alcohol dry on your skin enuf before you shoot.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

If you're cutting with EO, you can move up to a 25 gauge now no problem. Also, the stinging is not due to the EO, its due to not letting the alcohol dry on your skin enuf before you shoot.

I just use 23g x 1.5" for glutes only. I use 25g X 1" for everything else.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Sweet mate its great stuff ,my last cycle i used t600 and only used it at 1/2 ml per ml , i shot 3 mil in my glute for 12 wks ,so 1200mg of test and 1 mill of EO and couldn't believe how easy it was .


Brad.

 

[bigtravis]

The ethyl oleate that you ordered does not need to be heated or anything. Remember, I know where you got it from. That's the best quality EO there is. It's already good to go.

 

[centeroiler]

The ethyl oleate that you ordered does not need to be heated or anything. Remember, I know where you got it from. That's the best quality EO there is. It's already good to go.

Hey Big T, its about time you put your pretty mug back up as your avi!

 

[Big_Joe]

If its the site im thinging of it should say sterile EO when you brought it .
i have used it at 1/2 with great success .

Cooking gear does not kill all bacteria. Some bacteria can live at high temperatures so I never, ever recommend just baking (never boiling) the gear to make it sterile. BA is what neutralizes the bacteria, it is not the heat.

If you email the suplyer they will tell you , best would be to filter with whatman filter.

Brad.

What does "neutralize" mean? If you mean it kills the bacteria you are not correct. BA is bacteriostatic not bacteriocidal. The reason it's used is not to control bacteria but to act as a solvent. Benzyl Alcohol does very little to kill bacteria but it does have an effect on the bacterias replication.

The best way to sterilize, for someone that is doing this at home, is to use a pressure cooker. It will not kill everything, viruses are what will not be killed but bacteria will be, but it will do a fairly good job.

There is so much misinformation on forums like this it's just amazing. All one needs to do is just google Benzyl Alcohol and you will learn what I posted. But are people doing that? Of course not. They just repeat the same bad information they read on some forum that was posted by guys that don't know shit but others think they do. So protect yourselves folks and use google to find out the real truth. And don't think the stuff you read on places like s_teroid.com is accurate. Remember that stuff was written by the same guy that brought you the roid store.

 

[tomow]

Good luck on the EO, i got some shipped in from the US (im in the uk) apart from the ease of injection (thinner) i didnt realise much difference in the pain, im still in agony for a good couple of days afterwards. Even after trying to inject in every muscle in my body, infact the glute was the most painful of all followed by quads, think it was a little better in the delts just because its a smaller muscle so the pain was localised.