Cutting cycle needed for competitive bodybuilder.

[mvmaxx]

I have a friend who is an amateur bb. He has several cycles under his belt and wants my help in devising his next cycle for his contest prep on Sep 28th.

So far I was thinking of the following, but would love to get your guys input to any changes. He can get anything, so shoot. (No GH, he's too broke)
BTW, main goal is to put on a tad more mass but to really cut up. He's 5'7" 210 at about 11%.

Cycle:

Sust (Nile) - 500mg/week - weeks 1-10
Spectro EQ - 400-600mg/week - weeks 1-10
Spectro Winny - 50mg/ED - weeks 9-13
Spectro Tren - 75mg/ED - weeks 9-13
Liquidex .5mg/ED

 

[BBBodie]

At 5'7 and 210 he's already up there....I'd focus on ripped to the bone. He'll win with that, his mass is already diesel.

 

[serge]

I have a friend who is an amateur bb. He has several cycles under his belt and wants my help in devising his next cycle for his contest prep on Sep 28th.

So far I was thinking of the following, but would love to get your guys input to any changes. He can get anything, so shoot. (No GH, he's too broke)
BTW, main goal is to put on a tad more mass but to really cut up. He's 5'7" 210 at about 11%.

Cycle:

Sust (Nile) - 500mg/week - weeks 1-10
Spectro EQ - 400-600mg/week - weeks 1-10
Spectro Winny - 50mg/ED - weeks 9-13
Spectro Tren - 75mg/ED - weeks 9-13
Liquidex .5mg/ED

i would use femera instead of liquidex, also i like to use full dose of aromatise inhitibor, 1mg of liquidex or 2.5mg of femera every day

other then that cycle looks pretty solid except i would up the doses a bit depending on how many cycles he has done

 

[mvmaxx]

serge - I agree with the Liquidex comment. He just had enough to do .5mg/ED. I'll try to convince him to buy another bottle.

Another amateur BB friend of mine can't understand why I'd recommend sust going into a contest. He says he will hold too much water and estrogenic fat. I tried to explain the effects of Liquidex but some people are very thick headed.

I've never competed but I have seen other competitors cycles and most of them usually contain some sort of test.

 

[genarr3]

I would use a single ester rather then Sustenon.

 

[serge]

serge - I agree with the Liquidex comment. He just had enough to do .5mg/ED. I'll try to convince him to buy another bottle.

Another amateur BB friend of mine can't understand why I'd recommend sust going into a contest. He says he will hold too much water and estrogenic fat. I tried to explain the effects of Liquidex but some people are very thick headed.

I've never competed but I have seen other competitors cycles and most of them usually contain some sort of test.

try to get him to buy more or get him to buy femera (much better choice in my opinion). using mild gear like primo and winny has been out for some time now, its just too ineffecient/expensive to use for dieting, you want to use highly androgenic stuff as it will hold on to muscle mass the best and add the needed density to the physique.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

I agree with the above comments, up the anti-e and enathate or cyp would be better. I think a little prop, maybe 100-150mg EOD with the tren and winny would be needed to hold on to all his muscle during those final weeks, b/c 875mg a week probably won't be enough if he's dieting hard. Also I'd start the cycle earlier, make it a 16 weeker, just run the tren and winny to week 16 and the prop to the middle of 14 or 15. This will give him more time to get in shape and for the tren and winny to do their stuff, you don't want to be rushed. What about clen, ECA, T3? He planning one using them?

 

[wartime100]

I would run all that shit but in an 8 week cycle. If you wait til week 9 to start the winny and tren your receptors will be more worn out and the shit that is supposed to be cutting you up won't be as effective.

 

[mvmaxx]

genarr3 - I had thought about getting him some Enanthate but he already had a bunch of Omna's left over.

serge - When you say up the amounts, which gear are you referring to? The sust? or all of them? He's going to be doing 600mg/EW of the Spectro EQ.

Hulk errr ...Dr RobertBanner - The show is 13 weeks out, otherwise great idea. I can also get clen and T3 for him to use with the Tren.

 

[serge]

depending on his cycle history

i would run more test, say 700mg/week

eq stick to the higher ed, 600mg/week

once you dump test and eq; tren i would run out at 100mg/ed; winny is fine

do try to convince him to purchase more arimidex though or femera,

 

[manny78]

Prop (would be my choice for a cutting cycle) 100 mg ED week 1-12
EQ 1000 mg week 1-2 then 600 mg week 1-10
Winny 50 mg ED week 6-12
Fina 75 mg ED week 7-12
Now if your friend could get some Masteron then that would be the perfect cutting cycle for a competition.......

 

[jc21]

well he is gonna have to cut out the sust 6 weeks out and change to prop or suspension. because of less water retention and easier to control.

i really suggest throwing in some anavar or even better some halotestin for the final 4 weeks, it will really harden him up.

i dont agree with the comment of him being big enough....at that starting weight he should come in at the top of the middleweight class...but he is a little to tall for that. if he can gain size...he needs to do it.

 

[mvmaxx]

manny and jc21 - thanx

I can get him some prop and replace the sust 6 weeks out. 100mg/ED? Also, I can get him some anavar. errrr he can get himself anavar.

Also, he decided to sell some stock so he now has funds for GH.
Would it be beneficial in 13 weeks? Thoughts?

 

[mvmaxx]

bump

 

[XXXL]

i too would drop the omna and go with something shorter acting. suspension would be great. like the bro said, he'll have more control of the bloating.

gh is another great choice. . . sell those stocks baby!

as for the winny i like 100mg ED
tren also at 100mg ED
eq at 600mg per week or more.

but this would be a very hard cycle on the liver, so make sure he takes all the precautions. and if he only has a couple cycles under his belt, this will be a BIG one.

gh takes a while to do it's thing. if he goes that route, make sure he understands not to discontinue using after the contest. the longer you run it the better. but he will be fine with only 12 weeks. that is the min time that is recommened for gh cycles.

my current cutting cycle is as follows

10iu's per day gh
100mg winny depot ED
100mg tren ED
maybe some EQ, but i don't know if i'll end up throwing that in.

oh yeah, and some clen. this will be my first all out cutting cycle.

anyway, all and all your suggested cycle looks pretty good. you can go with it or fine tune it in any of the ways suggested.

 

[Quadsweep]

I would use a single ester rather then Sustenon.

Me too. It will still be in him through week 11-12 and could make him watery. I like Prop!

peace, Quad

 

[mvmaxx]

Any other input on the GH? I like XXXL's response.

Also, we got enough prop to do the last 5 weeks 100mg/ED and the Liquidex is up to $1mg/ED.