cutting cycle help...liquiclen, YES

[NickyE3]

I am looking to do a cutting cycle in about 2 or 2 1/2 months.
I train regularly and eat alot of clean food. Never taken an AAS cycle, this will be my first.
I am looking to do a cycle of liquid clen, liquidex, yohimburn ES, and maybe some winny tabs. I have natural estro fat on my sides and nips and I am hoping liquidex will help get rid of that.

Clen - on 2 weeks off 2 weeks. What size of squirts to start with and end with? (since it will be a gradual increase)
YES - before cardio train
Liquidex - What size of squirts daily?
Winny - How many mg daily would you suggest for a first timer?

CRITIQUES PLEASE!
What combinations would you suggest?
Anything you would take out of the cycle?
Anything you would add to the cycle?

 

[ortiz34]

run the Winny at 50 mgs for 6 weeks, also I'm not sure the liquidex is going to do anything for your love handles and titty blubber. You need some clomid and nolva for pct, Winstrol will shut you down. Do you want to crash when your done? If not do PCT. Also do not use the droppers to measure from ag guys, use a syringe it's more accurate. Don't screw around with Clen.

 

[jdvert]

Try Var instead of winny might be tuff for first go around.Take Clen after u diet down to below 10%or less.or Try primo if u wanna stick.Good luck

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I am looking to do a cutting cycle in about 2 or 2 1/2 months.
I train regularly and eat alot of clean food. Never taken an AAS cycle, this will be my first.
I am looking to do a cycle of liquid clen, liquidex, yohimburn ES, and maybe some winny tabs. I have natural estro fat on my sides and nips and I am hoping liquidex will help get rid of that.

Clen - on 2 weeks off 2 weeks. What size of squirts to start with and end with? (since it will be a gradual increase)
YES - before cardio train
Liquidex - What size of squirts daily?
Winny - How many mg daily would you suggest for a first timer?

CRITIQUES PLEASE!
What combinations would you suggest?
Anything you would take out of the cycle?
Anything you would add to the cycle?

Clen 2-3 weeks on with at least 2-4 weeks off (EC or thermorexin in those weeks off)

Yohimburn ES- before cardio and training is good

liquidex, since no test in cycle you can go with less, though since you have estrous issues there is no problem with 1mg/day

winstrol- IMO dont really reccomend this for first cycle (though you would not be the first to do so) 25-50mg/day orally if not taking anything else. As a note dont really reccomend orals only cycles.

 

[asianlover]

can we get some stats. height, weight, bf%.
use a syrenge to measure liquiclen. that is some strong shit and you don't want to take too much. i would recomend you alternate the clen with trex. what are you trying to accomplish by adding winny? it really doesn't help you burn fat. var would be a much better choice if you want to only use an oral. i can't remember the dose for liquiclen, il post it if i find it. with the liquidex you can start with about .5mg/day and icrease if you need.

 

[NickyE3]

5'11"
195 lbs
bf % - pry around 15 or so

I think im going to hold off on the clen.

I want to get more defined and vascular/hard. Pretty much I want to get lean for summer.

Winny get you more hard and cut. But doesn't it also increase some strength?

 

[swordfish151]

I disagree...you can add the liquiclen...all though you might not see "better" results at a higher BF it does work...i know..i did it...liquiclen is good shit..and if used properly you can shed some seriouse body fat...I would drop the winny...forget about that right now...and do as macro stated...but the key...the real secret is YOUR DIET..you have to be consitant with it...all that stuff we recommended wont do squat if your not on point....and the liquiclen should be measured with a pin (preferrably a slin pin..much more accurate)

Example of a first cycle: (2weeks on 2 weeks off)

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.

 

[swordfish151]

Clen 2-3 weeks on with at least 2-4 weeks off (EC or thermorexin in those weeks off)

Yohimburn ES- before cardio and training is good

liquidex, since no test in cycle you can go with less, though since you have estrous issues there is no problem with 1mg/day

winstrol- IMO dont really reccomend this for first cycle (though you would not be the first to do so) 25-50mg/day orally if not taking anything else. As a note dont really reccomend orals only cycles.

macro...how does liquidex aid in cutting? Im ignorant to this concept..advice.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

macro...how does liquidex aid in cutting? Im ignorant to this concept..advice.

oestrogen suppression CAN help with fat loss, too much can hurt fat loss though since it does play some role in lipolysis. Oestrogen causes A2 adrenoceptor proliferation (it also is an A2 agonist- yohimbine is an A2 antagonist)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

^^

 

[NickyE3]

I think I will hold off on the winny till I am more experienced. I might go and try the anavar.

What would a good Anavar cycle look like?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I think I will hold off on the winny till I am more experienced. I might go and try the anavar.

What would a good Anavar cycle look like?

most people would reccomend 20-50mg per day. It really depends on individual response.