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Frackal said:
Frackal, im callin BS on your post.
Christians dont claim to be perfect. The point of Christianity is trusting in someone who died for your sins to be the negotiator between you and the father, not to be perfect. now having said that i know the Crusades were horrific beyond all imagination, and that corruption is present in the majority if not all religious affiliations in the world. Youre an avid govt supporter, but you dont see me coming out here and trashing on the blatent corruption and immorality of the US govt. Purgatory if you dont know is a place that may or may not have been invented by the catholic church, come on read your history, its based on one or two obscure passages after the crucifiction that are more suspect than the theory of dispensationalism or the way spiritual gifts are used in the church today. if youre going to slam christianity at least slam the religion as a whole and not an obscure part that the majority of christians either dont believe or choose not to argue about it. No sect of christianity is perfect, if they had all the answers there would be no need for God, and then we would have one state religion if it was proven to be infallable to everyone. Its the faith based parts of religion that come under scrutiny more than anything else. example: who was Jesus? Christians: the messiah Jews: not the messiah bc he only fulfilled the first half of the prophecies of the Old Testament. youre educated enough to not deny that Jesus existed, im sure, from our AIM conversations and such. Its not so much that Christians are questioning Church and state is the principle that the liberal side of america can lobby to completley infringe on religous freedom and ideals and practices that americans have cherished for centuries but Christians cannot fire back bc of "church and state church and state church and state" separate doesnt mean the state infringes on the church any more than it means the church can infringe on the state.
answer me this. If the courts of the US and everyone that went through the system had any Biblical convictions at all, wouldnt our legal system and Govts both be in a whole lot better shape?
every argument on this board comes down to the same friggin circular logic:
are the ten commandments right bc God said they were, or did God say them because they are right? that whole argument is the basis for the separation of church and state argument. I mean if yorue goin to act that liberal about this, then why antidisestablismentarianismists pay taxes, that would be subscribing to something they didnt believe in? whats the difference. Read 1984. its the perfect picture of where the govt seems to be going. are things the govt says moral bc the govt says them or does the govt say them because they are inherintly moral?
