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I dont buy the UFO theory for one bit at all. Only like 5 % are done by "scamers", soooooooooo.........are they made by the underwater energies?

Any thoughts?
 
I don't know about UFO's and while there are fake crop circles I think the majority of them are real; they're highly complex, a lot of geometry, astronomy involved in their design.

But what is real and how they are made are beyond me.
 
everyone loves a mystery.....but it's not. Jeb & Dexter have lots of time and cardboard to pull this off.....
 
Jeb and Dexter????


Velvett - thats what gets me, the complexity. Its known about the spiral/circular flow of underground earth energies, but are they that inter webbed to create such a complex images? I agree, a lot of them are real, they've been around for millenias
 
I'd love to hear how people thing extraterrestrials can achieve the speed needed to travel from their solar system to ours and back again...

Are there other life forms in the Universe? Mathematically, it's a certainty. Are they traveling to visit us? Umm... no. Sorry, the television and media lied to you, as hard as that may be for some to believe.



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foreigngirl said:
Jeb and Dexter????


Velvett - thats what gets me, the complexity. Its known about the spiral/circular flow of underground earth energies, but are they that inter webbed to create such a complex images? I agree, a lot of them are real, they've been around for millenias
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Wild right?

I like looking at the photos of them but I have no opinion as to how or who made them.
 
samoth said:
I'd love to hear how people thing extraterrestrials can achieve the speed needed to travel from their solar system to ours and back again...

Are there other life forms in the Universe? Mathematically, it's a certainty. Are they traveling to visit us? Umm... no. Sorry, the television and media lied to you, as hard as that may be for some to believe.



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there it is. your answer to the life-long question..thanks samoth. All that wasted time watching discovery channel UFO episodes....all i needed to do was ask you!!!!
 
but seriously...human beings are a relatively new species. Why would it be a shock if a civilization that has been around much longer had much more advanced methods of travel????
 
samoth said:
I'd love to hear how people thing extraterrestrials can achieve the speed needed to travel from their solar system to ours and back again...

Are there other life forms in the Universe? Mathematically, it's a certainty. Are they traveling to visit us? Umm... no. Sorry, the television and media lied to you, as hard as that may be for some to believe.



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I think Einstein was wrong.

The speed of light isnt constant...TIME is the constant.

The old "time slows with speed and "stops" when you hit lightspeed" doesnt wash with me.....it only stops for those who are going the speed of light.....Time, itself, dosent stop for those outside of the light speed.

Given the Big Bang theory and knowing that the universe is constantly expanding in a completely rotational, 360 degree field......IF time indeed would stop for those things flying about at light speed, then it seems to me that each individual galaxies that ARE moving at that speed would have stars that never die.

If time indeed would "stop" for those galaxies moving at that speed, then the stars would never go through their life cycle and eventually die.



Dunno....my random weird thought for the day

:theshadow
 
i don't believe in what i can't see. but i tell you what i do believe in: smarmy little smart mouthed, lying little bastards. the type you see every day, the type that get off on deceiving people. plenty of those around, and they're quite active.
 
HumanTarget said:
i don't believe in what i can't see. but i tell you what i do believe in: smarmy little smart mouthed, lying little bastards. the type you see every day, the type that get off on deceiving people. plenty of those around, and they're quite active.
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I concur. Totally.
 
anyone ever see that movie with Rowdy Roddy Piper where aliens are taking over the earth and only he can see them because he got these special sunglasses...man , that movie really opened my mind to the truth!


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NJjuice22 said:
but seriously...human beings are a relatively new species. Why would it be a shock if a civilization that has been around much longer had much more advanced methods of travel????
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Two major problems with that:

One, it takes a very long time for an appropriate habitable planet to be formed in a solar system capable of sustaining carbon-based life (I have yet to hear any arguments for non-carbon based life...). Maybe a few million years difference, but that's not much on the cosmological scale. Also, one needs to take into account the time needed for such a civilization (err... life forms) to achieve the status of a theoretical class I or II civilization, capable of preventing themselves from self-annihilation as well as preventing planetary disasters and those which may be caused by extraplanetary souces. Note that if a huge asteroid were to decide to make a rest stop on our planet, there's not a damned thing we could do to stop it. *blink* There goes the human race...

2) 'Advanced forms of travel' only go so far when the universal speed limit is 3x10^8 m/s. When talking about the distance between galaxies, that's actually quite nonsensical. And nope, that whole wormhole thing doesn't apply to the real world. We can't just initiate a subspace field and open a wormhole and travel to the next galaxy in a few seconds. That's an area that science fiction blew waaaay outta proportion.



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samoth said:
2) 'Advanced forms of travel' only go so far when the universal speed limit is 3x10^8 m/s. :cow:
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LOL


I mention the speed of light above and there you go....LOL
 
samoth said:
Two major problems with that:

One, it takes a very long time for an appropriate habitable planet to be formed in a solar system capable of sustaining carbon-based life (I have yet to hear any arguments for non-carbon based life...). Maybe a few million years difference, but that's not much on the cosmological scale. Also, one needs to take into account the time needed for such a civilization (err... life forms) to achieve the status of a theoretical class I or II civilization, capable of preventing themselves from self-annihilation as well as preventing planetary disasters and those which may be caused by extraplanetary souces. Note that if a huge asteroid were to decide to make a rest stop on our planet, there's not a damned thing we could do to stop it. *blink* There goes the human race...

2) 'Advanced forms of travel' only go so far when the universal speed limit is 3x10^8 m/s. When talking about the distance between galaxies, that's actually quite nonsensical. And nope, that whole wormhole thing doesn't apply to the real world. We can't just initiate a subspace field and open a wormhole and travel to the next galaxy in a few seconds. That's an area that science fiction blew waaaay outta proportion.



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they be bending space man....you should know this!
 
The Shadow said:
I think Einstein was wrong.

The speed of light isnt constant...TIME is the constant.
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Einstein offered mathematical theories as to the absolute speed of light. It was later confirmed, many times again and again, more accurately each time, to a degree which there is practically no error. The speed of light is proven. No one [credible] in the physical sciences disagrees with this. Or, if they do, have nothing but wild, unconfirmable theories.

The laws of physics are invariant.



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I do not believe in little green men but I do believe some people watch way too much crap TV
 
NJjuice22 said:
anyone ever see that movie with Rowdy Roddy Piper where aliens are taking over the earth and only he can see them because he got these special sunglasses...man , that movie really opened my mind to the truth!


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that was mostly Carpenters interpetation of the 80's Reagan era.
 
NJjuice22 said:
anyone ever see that movie with Rowdy Roddy Piper where aliens are taking over the earth and only he can see them because he got these special sunglasses...man , that movie really opened my mind to the truth!
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Dude, it's a movie. It's fake. The people in it are paid actors reading a script written by people they probably never met.

I'll never understand how influenced people are by the media.



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why does it have to be the UFO theory that dominates this question? The ancients even before the Druids knew how to observe the sky and they felt the powers of the energies. Thats why they built Stonehenge where it is - because a lot of under earth energies are inter mingled there. And the ancients knew it - they put stones there to act as storing that energy. So, why cant it be those same energies that are connected with the underwater be the cause?
 
samoth said:
Define "bending space".



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i think they're talking about usurping the shortest distance between 2 points theory, with the concept of bending space so that the points are right next to one another. like folding a piece of paper in half. but i only know how to do that with paper.....
 
samoth said:
Einstein offered mathematical theories as to the absolute speed of light. It was later confirmed, many times again and again, more accurately each time, to a degree which there is practically no error. The speed of light is proven. No one [credible] in the physical sciences disagrees with this. Or, if they do, have nothing but wild, unconfirmable theories.

The laws of physics are invariant.



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I'm not saying that it isnt proven....only that time itself seems to be a constant ALONG with the idea of light speed



Time, outside of the speed of light, is a constant as well....it never stops......the only time in theory that it does actually stop is when the speed of light is approached.....but even then, it only "stops" in relation to those moving at the speed of light....not for anyone outside of that system

that may not make any sense to anyone but me......LOL
 
foreigngirl said:
why does it have to be the UFO theory that dominates this question? The ancients even before the Druids knew how to observe the sky and they felt the powers of the energies. Thats why they built Stonehenge where it is - because a lot of under earth energies are inter mingled there. And the ancients knew it - they put stones there to act as storing that energy. So, why cant it be those same energies that are connected with the underwater be the cause?
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well if that's the case then why is it only "crop" circles? why not "frontlawn" circles?

Do you think this caused the Target Circles?
 
HumanTarget said:
i think they're talking about usurping the shortest distance between 2 points theory, with the concept of bending space so that the points are right next to one another. like folding a piece of paper in half. but i only know how to do that with paper.....
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thats a start
 
foreigngirl said:
why does it have to be the UFO theory that dominates this question? The ancients even before the Druids knew how to observe the sky and they felt the powers of the energies. Thats why they built Stonehenge where it is - because a lot of under earth energies are inter mingled there. And the ancients knew it - they put stones there to act as storing that energy. So, why cant it be those same energies that are connected with the underwater be the cause?
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Please define "earth energies". (I'm not going to touch the underwater earth energies one...)



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Smurfy said:
well if that's the case then why is it only "crop" circles? why not "frontlawn" circles?

Do you think this caused the Target Circles?
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this is just my theory: maybe its not "frontlawn" circles because people dont build houses right on those energy lines, but close enough to them. So, whats they are left with is the crop flats.
 
foreigngirl said:
this is just my theory: maybe its not "frontlawn" circles because people dont build houses right on those energy lines, but close enough to them. So, whats they are left with is the crop flats.
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are these crop circles all over the world? and if so, then it's purely coincidence that the these energies only affect crops by creating crop circles, but there is not other evidence of such a phenomena with other growing plant-type objects? l
 
samoth said:
Please define "earth energies". (I'm not going to touch the underwater earth energies one...)



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well, thats what I ment, I just didnt feel like writing all that - the underwater earth energy currents
 
HumanTarget said:
i think they're talking about usurping the shortest distance between 2 points theory, with the concept of bending space so that the points are right next to one another. like folding a piece of paper in half. but i only know how to do that with paper.....
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Oh. The whole wormhole theory. Already covered.



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The Shadow said:
I'm not saying that it isnt proven....only that time itself seems to be a constant ALONG with the idea of light speed



Time, outside of the speed of light, is a constant as well....it never stops......the only time in theory that it does actually stop is when the speed of light is approached.....but even then, it only "stops" in relation to those moving at the speed of light....not for anyone outside of that system

that may not make any sense to anyone but me......LOL
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If time is a constant, what is it's value?



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foreigngirl said:
this is just my theory: maybe its not "frontlawn" circles because people dont build houses right on those energy lines, but close enough to them. So, whats they are left with is the crop flats.
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Um... have you published this theory of yours? The credible stuff usually gets published in those expensive peer-reviewed journals and what have you, if it survives getting ripped apart by reality when submitted to those people who annoyingly persist on some sort of factual basis.



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Smurfy said:
are these crop circles all over the world? and if so, then it's purely coincidence that the these energies only affect crops by creating crop circles, but there is not other evidence of such a phenomena with other growing plant-type objects? l
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maybe it is a coincidence, maybe its that kind of crop that is easily bendable. I just remember seeing those circles even on green land, not just the yellow dried out one. And with that dowsing rod and with electronic devices, they find out that there is some strange energy that makes the cameras and cell phones shut off. Maybe that strange energy just comes out of the concentration of all the people that are currently there on to the circles
 
samoth said:
Um... have you published this theory of yours? The credible stuff usually gets published in those expensive peer-reviewed journals and what have you, if it survives getting ripped apart by reality when submitted to those people who annoyingly persist on some sort of factual basis.



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lol....sarcasm at its best
 
samoth said:
If time is a constant, what is it's value?



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Why does it have to have a numeric value??


constant = unchanging


LOL



If I am in a car going 60 mph and throw a ball (forward) 40 mph...then for the split second that the ball leaves my hand - its going 100mph relative to the ground, but if I am in a car drving the speed of light and turn on the head lights, the light beams are not going 2x the speed of light.


Whatupwidat??


LOL
 
The Shadow said:
Why does it have to have a numeric value??


constant = unchanging
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Semantics are often involved with specific areas.

If I am in a car going 60 mph and throw a ball (forward) 40 mph...then for the split second that the ball leaves my hand - its going 100mph relative to the ground, but if I am in a car drving the speed of light and turn on the head lights, the light beams are not going 2x the speed of light.


Whatupwidat??
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Basic relativity. It kinda goes against normal thinking in the classical sense, but I assure you it's mathematically and experimentally sound.

It's one of those things, like quantum mechanics, that doesn't happen in the 'normal' everyday world (where classical mechanics rules), thus it's one of those things a person really has to read or study up on to really understand it. Most non-classical events are only observable in huge, expensive research facilities with special instrumentation.



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HumanTarget said:
i don't believe in what i can't see. but i tell you what i do believe in: smarmy little smart mouthed, lying little bastards. the type you see every day, the type that get off on deceiving people. plenty of those around, and they're quite active.
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......you dont have to believe.thats on you. but you need to know the facts. there is many things that are going on right now that you cant see, but they are there. can you see the protons flowing in your electronics? no you cant. can you see me typing a respond to this funny ass remark you made ? no. but i am. can you see the 12.5 lbs. of pressure in the air that you are breathing right now ? no but we know its there . can you see your anger commin on couse you dont like what you are reading right now ? no....but you know its there. ect,ect,ect. wake up dude.
so, you wanna buy a slightly used 1947 u.f.o ? its got 2 little smart mouthed lying little bastards in it that will make your bold head grow hair.interested ? telapathitically send me your answer.
 
It is not because we can not conceive a speed being faster than the speed of light that it does not exist

When Newtonian physics was all that we have relativity would have appeared nonsense
 
jordanyfz said:
......you dont have to believe.thats on you. but you need to know the facts. there is many things that are going on right now that you cant see, but they are there. can you see the protons flowing in your electronics? no you cant. can you see me typing a respond to this funny ass remark you made ? no. but i am. can you see the 12.5 lbs. of pressure in the air that you are breathing right now ? no but we know its there . can you see your anger commin on couse you dont like what you are reading right now ? no....but you know its there. ect,ect,ect. wake up dude.
so, you wanna buy a slightly used 1947 u.f.o ? its got 2 little smart mouthed lying little bastards in it that will make your bold head grow hair.interested ? telapathitically send me your answer.
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i'll type it right here. most of what you said can at least be explained away. not the alien bullshit. it's a nice fantasy, but it's time to let go of it. most of what you tried to type made some sense, except the unexplained offense you took to my post.
 
HumanTarget said:
i'll type it right here. most of what you said can at least be explained away. not the alien bullshit. it's a nice fantasy, but it's time to let go of it. most of what you tried to type made some sense, except the unexplained offense you took to my post.
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no offence. i m just trying to have fun. i m sorry. i didn t mean to get of as an asshole. sorry bro. im just breakin balls.
 
anthrax said:
It is not because we can not conceive a speed being faster than the speed of light that it does not exist

When Newtonian physics was all that we have relativity would have appeared nonsense
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We know that speeds exceed c. However, only tachyons exist at this speed. But we can indeed perceive v>c, as well as experimentally show it cannot be exceeded.



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jordanyfz said:
no offence. i m just trying to have fun. i m sorry. i didn t mean to get of as an asshole. sorry bro. im just breakin balls.
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that's cool. and i'm sure you know what i meant. but if i wanted to play devils advocate, i could say how would i know who was an alien and who isn't? maybe they look exactly like us. who knows. if they did come here, it'd only be to watch our cheesy tv shows.
 
Samoth....they are working on numerous methods for deflecting asteroids and stuff.

Theres a big one supposed to come close around 2026 or so.
 
HumanTarget said:
that's cool. and i'm sure you know what i meant. but if i wanted to play devils advocate, i could say how would i know who was an alien and who isn't? maybe they look exactly like us. who knows. if they did come here, it'd only be to watch our cheesy tv shows.
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... good point.

..maybe. who is to say we arn t . it can get deep. this subject is kinda like talkin bout religion.
 
test boy ii said:
Samoth....they are working on numerous methods for deflecting asteroids and stuff.

Theres a big one supposed to come close around 2026 or so.
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..... no fear. we ll be gone by that time. the world will come to an end in 2012. the miyan calender said so.
 
AAP said:
Back to the crop circles... WTF made them then?
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there is tons of video about fishy stuff that makes ufo researchers excited.

Never heard of video of a crop circle being made....unless it had people in it.

All I see is the aftermath. Need more than that.
 
test boy ii said:
Samoth....they are working on numerous methods for deflecting asteroids and stuff.

Theres a big one supposed to come close around 2026 or so.
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Yes, but detecting and being able to do something about it are two very different things. We could send every nuclear weapon on the earth at a sizable asteroid and fail to do a damn thing to stop it.

Unfortunetly, we're too busy killing each other to worry about finding ways to preserve humanity.



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test boy ii said:
there is tons of video about fishy stuff that makes ufo researchers excited.

Never heard of video of a crop circle being made....unless it had people in it.

All I see is the aftermath. Need more than that.
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Wasn't there one with some little glowing ball ripping around and crop circles appearing under them?

Tweakers with headlamps maybe?
 
foreigngirl said:
samoth, why wouldnt you touch the subject of underwater energy? If you know more about it, I would like to know too
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Honestly? I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. I've never heard of anything like that before.



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foreigngirl said:
samoth, why wouldnt you touch the subject of underwater energy? If you know more about it, I would like to know too
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well, samoth has spent the last several years specializing in the study of underearth energies...he's not advanced enough yet to approach the underwater stuff.
 
To think there are not other life forms in the infinite universe is just so very very naive.
 
jackangel said:
well, samoth has spent the last several years specializing in the study of underearth energies...he's not advanced enough yet to approach the underwater stuff.
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TI,OC,TCR.



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paradox said:
To think there are not other life forms in the infinite universe is just so very very naive.
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Credited. Likewise, to think they travel millions of years to get here is equally naive.

BTW, the universe is finite, yet unbounded.



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samoth said:
Credited. Likewise, to think they travel millions of years to get here is equally naive.

BTW, the universe is finite, yet unbounded.



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What?

I thought there was one of those common feeder lines at the end of the universe like at the bank?
 
samoth said:
I'd love to hear how people thing extraterrestrials can achieve the speed needed to travel from their solar system to ours and back again...

Are there other life forms in the Universe? Mathematically, it's a certainty. Are they traveling to visit us? Umm... no. Sorry, the television and media lied to you, as hard as that may be for some to believe.



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Solar system? I figure galactic spans between us. Also, even if there are other sentient races in the universe, who is to say they didn't develop a billion years ago, or a billion years in the future? Distance isn't the only variable.
 
samoth said:
Credited. Likewise, to think they travel millions of years to get here is equally naive.

BTW, the universe is finite, yet unbounded.



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But do you feel if "we" had the capability to travel millions of light years we would?
 
Smurfy said:
well if that's the case then why is it only "crop" circles? why not "frontlawn" circles?

Do you think this caused the Target Circles?
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What about tropical rain forest circles? Or desert circles?
 
paradox said:
But do you feel if "we" had the capability to travel millions of light years we would?
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Given that the laws of physics are invariant, I doubt we'd be able to develop the propulsion needed to send us that sort of distance. The whole class x civilization thing is only a theoretical construct, and until we find a dyson sphere, I'm only going to take it with a grain of salt.



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samoth said:
Given that the laws of physics are invariant, I doubt we'd be able to develop the propulsion needed to send us that sort of distance. The whole class x civilization thing is only a theoretical construct, and until we find a dyson sphere, I'm only going to take it with a grain of salt.



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If it is green, it's biology
If it stinks, it's chemistry

If it doesn't work, it's physics
 
The Shadow said:
I think Einstein was wrong.

The speed of light isnt constant...TIME is the constant.

The old "time slows with speed and "stops" when you hit lightspeed" doesnt wash with me.....it only stops for those who are going the speed of light.....Time, itself, dosent stop for those outside of the light speed.

Given the Big Bang theory and knowing that the universe is constantly expanding in a completely rotational, 360 degree field......IF time indeed would stop for those things flying about at light speed, then it seems to me that each individual galaxies that ARE moving at that speed would have stars that never die.

If time indeed would "stop" for those galaxies moving at that speed, then the stars would never go through their life cycle and eventually die.



Dunno....my random weird thought for the day

:theshadow
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Dont worry, you are right, light is NOT a constant!! And Samoth shows his youth by arguing that it is, God bless him, but he's only been learning this stuff for a short percentage of his life.
Light can actually be slowed down or even stopped. I can offer proof to challenge his mind.
So, let the games begin
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redguru said:
Also, even if there are other sentient races in the universe, who is to say they didn't develop a billion years ago, or a billion years in the future? Distance isn't the only variable.
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Ugg... I'd have to look that one up and reference it to make a sound argument. I will argue, however, that of all potential advanced life forms, what is the probability that a given planet of such an organism will remain able to sustain life for a billion years. That is, little to no enviromental change, no sun exploding stuff, no rampant diseases, no propagation of "racist" fighting and countries killing each other :D, no cataclysmic even terrestrial or otherwise, ad nauseum?

It's a good question, though. Too bad Nathan doesn't post on these kinda threads often.



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[email protected] said:
Dont worry, you are right, light is NOT a constant!! And Samoth shows his youth by arguing that it is, God bless him, but he's only been learning this stuff for a short percentage of his life.
Light can actually be slowed down or even stopped. I can offer proof to challenge his mind.
So, let the games begin
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Hiya BB! I've never been to NYC, though. I went to the Jersey Metal Fest back in '01, though.

[Edit] LOL, I like that smiley.

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Even if we were to develop the technology to reach near-light speed, humans couldn't handle the acceleration to reach it.

Humans can die at a sustained 10G or 90m/sec^2.

To get to 3x10^8m/sec from a dead stop at 10G would take 39 days. By then you'd be quite dead.
 
samoth said:
Hiya BB! I've never been to NYC, though. I went to the Jersey Metal Fest back in '01, though.

[Edit] LOL, I like that smiley.

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toodles my good man!
Curious as to this story I read about the bose-einstein condensate. Thought of you, and valentine's is just around the corner, as you can see the smilie couldnt make the apple drop on his head despite his Newtonian efforts. Gravity is not as simple as it seems and light does not have a constant speed. Meaning, if light is a variable, all laws based on light being constant become nothing more than a variable equation, meaning everything is just a moot exercise in the religion called physics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6343311.stm
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nothing is more fearful than the unknown. that's why disinformation & classified information are what keeps this world running at the pace it does....can't tell the truth, cuz then we'd just go about our lives.....
 
HumanTarget said:
nothing is more fearful than the unknown. that's why disinformation & classified information are what keeps this world running at the pace it does....can't tell the truth, cuz then we'd just go about our lives.....
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Knowledge is power but ignorance is a great shield
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redguru said:
I was thinking it was from a men's room stall in a San Fran bath house.
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there is never enough toilet paper to wipe your ass AND clog the gloryhole....
 
HumanTarget said:
nothing is more fearful than the unknown. that's why disinformation & classified information are what keeps this world running at the pace it does....can't tell the truth, cuz then we'd just go about our lives.....
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that is the way of patriarchy and the military gods as Yahweh. Lets all get back in rhythm with the nature and there wont be no mysteries
 
foreigngirl said:
that is the way of patriarchy and the military gods as Yahweh. Lets all get back in rhythm with the nature and there wont be no mysteries
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jeezum crow. my ex was pagan, she never made me listen to her beliefs. and man could she cook...
 
HumanTarget said:
jeezum crow. my ex was pagan, she never made me listen to her beliefs. and man could she cook...
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intimidated from female power and magic?

I dont like the word pagan. It seems so....how shall I put it - non intellectual?
 
foreigngirl said:
intimidated from female power and magic?

I dont like the word pagan. It seems so....how shall I put it - non intellectual?
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it is what her religion is called. many definitions for the word pagan, mostly any religion other than Christianity is considered "pagan". here was her def: a practitioner of an Earth Religion; from the Latin paganus, a country dweller.
 
HumanTarget said:
it is what her religion is called. many definitions for the word pagan, mostly any religion other than Christianity is considered "pagan". here was her def: a practitioner of an Earth Religion; from the Latin paganus, a country dweller.
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I know what pagan means. She was probably Neo-pagan. I think thats what they call it in these days. Probably to differentiate it from the pre-christianity period. They have some very interesting theories and beliefs.
 
foreigngirl said:
I know what pagan means. She was probably Neo-pagan. I think thats what they call it in these days. Probably to differentiate it from the pre-christianity period. They have some very interesting theories and beliefs.
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so what the fuck are you? goddam Baptist?
 
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