Critique First Cycle! Test prop, Anavar, Winstrol

[milkmanlucas]

I've been doing a lot of research and I think I got it, but would like some input before buying and starting a cycle. It's an 8 week cycle and would like some input on the whole cycle/length and PCT as well, as I've seen MANY different inputs on PCT and whatnot.. If I'm taking Arimidex throughout my cycle, do I still need to take nolvadex with HCG for PCT? Thanks for the help in advance!

week 1-8 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD
week 1-4 Anavar @ 50mg ED
week 5-8 Winstrol @50mg ED
week 1-8 Arimidex @ .5mg ED
week 1-8 Liver Support ED
HCG @ 500iu ED for 10 days starting on day of last injection.
(not sure if I should take nolvadex if i'm taking Arimidex) but Nolvadex @ 20mg ED for 10 days along with HCG
Clomid starting on last day of HCG
day 1 - 200mg
day 2-8 100mg ED
day 9-16 50mg ED
day 17-24 50mg EOD

As for liver support.. which one is better? Liv52, Milk Thistle, or N2Guard? And should I only take it through my on time or after as well?

 

[EZ_E]

Welcome;

Too much for a 1st cycle..

Can we sww some stats? Age, ht, wt, bf%, goals, training history, diet...

~EZ

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

For a first cycle... I'd just go with a long estered test... (Cypionate/enathate) and run it 250 - 500mg a week for 8 - 10 weeks.. C'est tout... anything else isn't really needed IMO...

My first cycle WAY back when was 250mg/week of Sustanon for 8 weeks... I gained/kept 16lbs..

 

[milkmanlucas]

Why is it too much? Basically running a Test with an oral for 8 weeks. I don't really want to do more than one cycle. I mean it might look like a lot only because I elaborated on my PCT just to double check my PCT is alright. But basically my cycle is test + anavar for 4 weeks and test + winstrol for 4 weeks. Is the PCT too much or what? I think if I didn't elaborate on my PCT it would look pretty plain and simple lol.

I'm 21, 5'10", 170 lbs, 6% bf, been working out for 3 years now, and thought about doing one cycle just for a boost, cut up and just gain some keepable lean mass. Not looking for the bulky look. Got my diet on check.

Any suggestions on the PCT btw? And then again, even if I were to do test only, wouldn't the PCT be the same? it would just take out the anavar/winstrol.

 

[RADAR]

Yes its too much for a first cycle ,stick to test only, adding 2 orals is hard on the liver.

 

[milkmanlucas]

That's why I'm taking liver support. Would it be less harsh on my liver if I were to take it on any other cycle?

 

[RADAR]

That's why I'm taking liver support. Would it be less harsh on my liver if I were to take it on any other cycle?

Listen i have over 35 yrs experience in this, i said 2 orals are hard on the liver,you sound like the typical 21 yr old.listen to me or not i don't care. You wanted input i gave it to you.

 

[milkmanlucas]

I'd just like some reasoning behind it. I'm not taking 2 orals together. I'm splitting them because obviously it's hard on the liver if I were to take them together. And I'm just asking, would it be any different if I were to do it on my 2nd or 3rd cycle? or would it have the same effect? Don't be mad, I'm just asking for more knowledge, not a just "don't do it cause i said so". I asked for input, but would like more than "no, listen to me bye".

 

[RADAR]

I'm sorry if i cam across sounding mad that was not my intention,You would be better off running the var straight thru then adding winstrol as it can be hard on the joints.

Test prop 100mgs EOD 8 weeks
Anavar 30-50mg ED 8 weeks

Take liver protectors
Drink Cranberry juice
and lots of water
add ALA (Alpha Lipotic Acid)

 

[milkmanlucas]

I'm sorry if i cam across sounding mad that was not my intention,You would be better off running the var straight thru then adding winstrol as it can be hard on the joints.

Test prop 100mgs EOD 8 weeks
Anavar 30-50mg ED 8 weeks

Take liver protectors
Drink Cranberry juice
and lots of water
add ALA (Alpha Lipotic Acid)

Np man, thank you for the input! That sounds good, will definitely do then. Any suggestions on PCT? Idk if that sounds like a lot or not, I just elaborated a bit to know if that's exactly how it should be done.