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Creatine Serum

What's everyone's opinions of creatine serum?

The guys at my local supplement shop say it's the best out there but i've read conflicting reports about a liquid based creatine.
I guess the supplement shop wanna sell it cos it's the most expensive there but i've noticed alot of guys in my gym taking it too

They also do different types for different uses. The one that particularly interests me is the Thermo Serum

the ingredients are

Typical values per 5 ml Serving: Amount:
Pure Creatine Monohydrate 2,500 mg
Grape Seed Extract 150 mg
Citrus Aurantium Extract 100 mg
Glucosamine Sulphate 100 mg
Gotu Cola Extract 100 mg
Guarana Extract (8% Caffeine) 100 mg
Ribose 100 mg
Siberian Ginseng 100 mg
Bee Pollen Extract 50 mg
Calcium Pyruvate 50 mg
L-Arginine 50 mg
L-Carnitine 50 mg
L-Lysine 50 mg
Glutathione 25 mg
Zinc Gluconate 25 mg
SAMe 20 mg
Potassium Chloride 15 mg
Vitamin B1 15 mg
Vitamin B2 15 mg
Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5) 15 mg
Vitamin B6 15 mg
Choline 125 mcg
Folic Acid 125 mcg
Chromium Piciolinate 50 mcg
Royal Jelly 50 mcg
Selenium Picolinate 25 mcg
Glycerine
Sorbitol
Purified Water
Natural Flavouring
 
Its Pretty Much Garbage. Maybe, MAYBE it might be effective at giving you an Energy boost because of the sugar. But Certainly worthless if you are looking for a Creatine Source.
-Howl
 
A lot of people swear by this stuff 'because they feel it right away.' Creatine is not something you feel within 5 minutes of taking it. I'm pretty sure it has b-12 and/or ginseng in it.
 
Sucks....but it does taste pretty damn good. I used to drink it like that liquid candy stuff...

And it mixes great with vodka!
 
Creatine is unstable in liquid and is worthless after a short period of time in it. You probably get more creatinine than creatine in those serums. The guy was pushing it on you b/c he probably gets a commission, one big 3-letter suppl. chain used to give $4 per bottle of serum.
 
The major down side to liquid creatine is it is very hard to make. If creatine is just mixed in a liquid it starts to breakdown into a waste product (creatinine) after about 20 minutes. So, to make liquid creatine effective the creatine must be stabilized. If the creatine is stabilized it will not break down into a waste product - and it will remain as creatine monohydrate.

You can gain more knowledge at www.absolute-creatine.com
 
tad69 said:
So, to make liquid creatine effective the creatine must be stabilized. If the creatine is stabilized it will not break down into a waste product - and it will remain as creatine monohydrate.

You can gain more knowledge at www.absolute-creatine.com


Creatine Monohydrate Material Data Safety Sheet:
http://www.msdsxchange.com:82/pdffiles/BAKER/C5357.PDF

under section 10: Stability
"Conditions to Avoid: Moisture & Incompatibles"

WHICH MEANS: DONT PUT YOUR CREATINE IN A MOIST PLACE, LIKE IN A BOTTLE WITH WATER AND A LITTLE DROPPER!




Absolute-creatine.com is hardly what I'd call a 100% reliable resource, someone is probably getting paid to make that site or its owned by a supplement company. I only read 1 page of it to see what it said about liquid creatine.





Taken from http://www.ast-ss.com/dev/qa_search/full_text.asp?ID=337:

Q: Since creatine is unstable in a liquid form wouldn't that mean that the drinks that are sold at my gym that have creatine in them are no good? How quickly will the creatine degrade? Months, weeks, days?

A: Try hours. When put in a liquid, creatine will start to degrade into creatinine (a waste product) in just a few hours. Also, the more acidic the liquid the quicker and more complete the degradation will be.

The pre-made drinks sold out of coolers in gyms, health food stores and even convenience stores that list creatine as an ingredient are not only a waste of money but could be toxic. The creatine in these drinks has degraded into creatinine before they have even left the warehouse. And by the time you get a chance to purchase them, I would bet there are only trace amounts of creatine and large amounts of creatinine as the degradation process would be complete.

This is simple science. Creatine breaks down in a liquid in a matter of hours. Because creatine is so popular, the "drink" companies want to capitalize on it's popularity. They do this by making a creatine drink with no regard to the simple science and no regard to you as a consumer. Stay away from these drinks. They are worthless and could be potentially harmful.
 
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