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strongchick

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whoever wrote this is a coward.

"shit nigger, why dont you go back to the jungle and eat you a fucking bannana. what is a human sprkinkler say? chink, nigga, chink, nigga bwahhahahah. big black bitch!!! You are NOT wanted here!!! Shit for brains faggot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
 
haha, that little prick got me too. he must have been tired after strongchick because I got the usual shit for brains faggot. those are always good for a laugh.
 
When you use terms like faggot, or bitch or fucking or nigger, or whatever it lacks impact. If you want to give effective negative karma it has to be something cutting.

I always give good, specific reasons (the whole 2 times I have given negative karma). Leaving a message like "shut up you stupid faggot" just isn't cutting. And oh yes, I am going to shut up because the sender told me to, hehe.

btw, I ALWAYS sign my negative karma.
 
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Yet MORE negative karma, but no messages this time. I am on a roll today. Sadly the negative karma is usually red at the moment whereas the supportive member's karma is grey *sob*.
 
Strong Chick...I put in a request to have this tracked...yes, karma can be traced back to the person who posted.
 
WODIN said:
Strong Chick...I put in a request to have this tracked...yes, karma can be traced back to the person who posted.

A while ago I was getting a great deal of homophobic abuse. I was getting extremely vicious and threatening messages via karma. Danielson put in a request to have it tracked but GS told him that because I wasn't a platinum member that it wasn't worth his time.

Since this is affecting so many people maybe someone will look into it this time. If the administrators view my karma messages they'll find a goldmine of anonymous hate mail.

The whole anonymity of this karma system has been an ABSOLUTE disaster. Essentially it allows people to violate EF's own Terms of Service with no recourse for the victims.
 
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I believe that it can be tracked.

I agree with Hans that the system sucks. Originally, it was not possible to give unsigned negative karma and the system should at the least be returned to that status.
 
It can be tracked...It's been done, Cornholio had it done once.
 
This is exactly the reason why all karma should be labled by the person sending it. Anonymous karma is simply unreasonable.

As for who sent strongchick that horrendous karma, I have my strong hunches...

Strongchick, don't let this drive you away. You were a valuable member who brought very controversial yet intelligent debates and converstations. It's a shame the immature folks on here can't discuss those topics like adults.
 
wodin....can you have these two tracked for me, i would post more but they aren't still listed on my karma thingy.

To All you Juvinal Idio...
06-Jul-2002 04:38 AM Fuck you
Wodin
05-Jul-2002 10:58 PM floor fucker
 
HansNZ said:


A while ago I was getting a great deal of homophobic abuse. I was getting extremely vicious and threatening messages via karma. Danielson put in a request to have it tracked but GS told him that because I wasn't a platinum member that it wasn't worth his time.

Since this is affecting so many people maybe someone will look into it this time. If the administrators view my karma messages they'll find a goldmine of anonymous hate mail.

The whole anonymity of this karma system has been an ABSOLUTE disaster. Essentially it allows people to violate EF's own Terms of Service with no recourse for the victims.

This does not surprise me. Hans, get use to it around here. Anyone can make a "sexual Preference" comment and get away with it but as soon as it becomes racial then it becomes a "serious" problem. Admin's and MODs pick and chose who they want to target because every rule does not pertain to everybody.

One well known member might say all kinds of prejudicial and racist comments yet don't even get spoken to because, of course, they do pay to be a member of this site. Yet others get chastized and get ripped apart because they are just another pawn who they don't give a shit about. How many times have I heard a MOD or member who becomes a MOD eventually say something racist or something that goes against EF TOS. It all comes down to who they like and who they don't.

I was very surprised to hear that they didn't have the "Resources" to track the neg karma that was given to you. Disgusts me to hear that, but i'm sorry to say you'll have to get use to it or protect yourself by paying the monthly membership fees to be protected. EF is run like the MOB where money is the driving force between everything, not human rights or freedom of speech like we all tend to believe.
 
WODIN said:
Strong Chick...I put in a request to have this tracked...yes, karma can be traced back to the person who posted.

Hey -

Thanks folks. I never expected this kind of response.

Kudos to you all.

It is good to be back.
 
Karma can be tracked and was already tracked at least once before. The person is useless on this board, just like you Stronchick. BTW why are you back ? School is over ? You missed us so badly ?
 
manny78 said:
Karma can be tracked and was already tracked at least once before. The person is useless on this board, just like you Stronchick. BTW why are you back ? School is over ? You missed us so badly ?

I especially missed you, manny.

I'm not sure why I'm back. Maybe I just wanna pick fights with conservatives/reagan/bushites.

Yeah. I'm in argumentative mode. Its good therapy.

I can't wait to stomp on your weak ass arguments! :D
 
strongchick said:


I especially missed you, manny.

I'm not sure why I'm back. Maybe I just wanna pick fights with conservatives/reagan/bushites.

Yeah. I'm in argumentative mode. Its good therapy.

I can't wait to stomp on your weak ass arguments! :D

First I'm not even conservative FYI. Then no time to waste with you. Still surprised you're back I thought you found the Eldorado somewhere else.......... lol
 
Boach said:
This is exactly the reason why all karma should be labled by the person sending it. Anonymous karma is simply unreasonable.

As for who sent strongchick that horrendous karma, I have my strong hunches...

Strongchick, don't let this drive you away. You were a valuable member who brought very controversial yet intelligent debates and converstations. It's a shame the immature folks on here can't discuss those topics like adults.

T'anks. There is some gold in here, that's for sure.
 
Cure said:


This does not surprise me. Hans, get use to it around here. Anyone can make a "sexual Preference" comment and get away with it but as soon as it becomes racial then it becomes a "serious" problem. Admin's and MODs pick and chose who they want to target because every rule does not pertain to everybody.

One well known member might say all kinds of prejudicial and racist comments yet don't even get spoken to because, of course, they do pay to be a member of this site. Yet others get chastized and get ripped apart because they are just another pawn who they don't give a shit about. How many times have I heard a MOD or member who becomes a MOD eventually say something racist or something that goes against EF TOS. It all comes down to who they like and who they don't.

I was very surprised to hear that they didn't have the "Resources" to track the neg karma that was given to you. Disgusts me to hear that, but i'm sorry to say you'll have to get use to it or protect yourself by paying the monthly membership fees to be protected. EF is run like the MOB where money is the driving force between everything, not human rights or freedom of speech like we all tend to believe.

You're full of shit my man....

Ranger
 
The Ranger said:
Negative karma and karma that attacks the person such as SC is quite different my man....

Ranger

yo, how do i go back and look at all the karma i have gotten in teh past????????? i have got some hateful messages, and even some threatening ones. also this guy, i will give you his name, sent me a pm with a nasty picture on it. i have it still in my pm box if you want, will he get banned like the racist guy who sent the karma? i dont see how some guy sending racist karma is worse than somone threatening me with karma, and then this guy sending me pics in karma that i dont want to see.
 
Lumbuss said:


yo, how do i go back and look at all the karma i have gotten in teh past????????? i have got some hateful messages, and even some threatening ones. also this guy, i will give you his name, sent me a pm with a nasty picture on it. i have it still in my pm box if you want, will he get banned like the racist guy who sent the karma? i dont see how some guy sending racist karma is worse than somone threatening me with karma, and then this guy sending me pics in karma that i dont want to see.

I think if they are going to devote any resources to tracing karma that they are going to focus on negative karma that affects entire groups of EF users like blacks or homosexuals or women. To track karma that is simply a personal slur on an individual is probably not a top priority.
 
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The Ranger said:
Click on profile Bro....scrool down, you'll see it

Ranger

im talking about the karma i got 4 weeks ago, that little thing at the bottom only has the most recent karma.
 
Cure said:


This does not surprise me. Hans, get use to it around here. Anyone can make a "sexual Preference" comment and get away with it but as soon as it becomes racial then it becomes a "serious" problem. Admin's and MODs pick and chose who they want to target because every rule does not pertain to everybody.

One well known member might say all kinds of prejudicial and racist comments yet don't even get spoken to because, of course, they do pay to be a member of this site. Yet others get chastized and get ripped apart because they are just another pawn who they don't give a shit about. How many times have I heard a MOD or member who becomes a MOD eventually say something racist or something that goes against EF TOS. It all comes down to who they like and who they don't.

I was very surprised to hear that they didn't have the "Resources" to track the neg karma that was given to you. Disgusts me to hear that, but i'm sorry to say you'll have to get use to it or protect yourself by paying the monthly membership fees to be protected. EF is run like the MOB where money is the driving force between everything, not human rights or freedom of speech like we all tend to believe.

Your comments are somewhat interesting.

The karma messages came at a time when I was also experiencing quite a bit of openly posted abuse about my sexuality, and an environment hostile to homosexuals pervaded the site generally.

In NZ our Human Rights Act requires any business venture to provide an environment hospitable to people regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. I felt EF was failing at this, and that there was a difference between the way racism was tolerated in contrast to the frequently virulently homophobic environment that went ignored an unchallenged.

Sadly I found out that in the US there are really no such laws stipulating that an organisation has to provide an inclusive environment. Such protection seems to differ state by state and be hit and miss in the USA, so EF had no legal obligation to address this issue.

I learned through a few incidents early on that this site is clearly run with only the self-interests of its owners in mind. I have supported the site financially in terms of purchasing reports and buying products. However, I have felt rather offended at being manipulated by false advertising and a somewhat profiteering mentality that pervades EF. As such, as much as I am tempted to get a platinum membership, I am resisting.

If EF was a non-profit organisation, and any future profits from the site were simply to go back to improve the site for its members i'd probably feel differently. However I know that my support would ultimately just be a subsidy for the future private profit of a few individuals.
 
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The Ranger said:


You're full of shit my man....

Ranger

Your gift for the gab is undeniable. Great way to disregard a comment when you have nothing better to comment with. Your intelligence astounds me. Have you ever heard of an educated opinion or must we all bow down to those who make the so-called "rules"?

I'm saying any comments that hurts one's race or sexuality should be punishable yet all on the same level. In my opinion some people are too sensitive to nonsense posted on this site yet it is wrong to post some of the garbage that is posted.

Also, if you are telling me this site is not driven by money then you really have to have a reality check. I would have thought that some MODs would be openly expressive but it seems to me that all you are is another senseless fool with no opinion. I pay my membership to this site and enjoy reading the information and the bullshit that is posted but when someone targets one person over many then there is a huge problem.

If you would like i will go into past posts and find derrogatory remarks that prominent members and MODs have made. All i'm trying to say is if you plan to attack someone (no matter who you are) you should face the consequences whether it be on issues of race, sexuality and misogyny.
 
HansNZ said:

I learned through a few incidents early on that this site is clearly run with only the self-interests of its owners in mind. I have supported the site financially in terms of purchasing reports and buying products. However, I have felt rather offended at being manipulated by false advertising and a somewhat profiteering mentality that pervades EF. As such, as much as I am tempted to get a platinum membership, I am resisting.



I will not comment on whether you should become platinum or not. I truly enjoy the members of this site but the double standard that is prevelant is undeniable. Trust me when i say that one's sexuality gets made fun of around here with no restrictions or punishment. Yet when someone screams "RACISM" the world's ears are open.
 
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