corporate america

[stilleto]

so my SIL came over today so she could ride with me to her parents house.

She asks me about my job and then she says, "god, i don't miss corporate america at all. I hate it."

now, i didn't say anything negative about my job- i actually really like it, but i've heard her and other people talk poorly about 'corporate america' before. USUALLY, it's from someone who is kind of a misfit, or who has trouble getting along with others. someone who is overly opinionated or doesn't adapt to different situations, etc.

I don't think i've ever heard a valid negative comment about "corporate america" and frankly, i'm not even sure what that means other than "a very large company".

can someone enlighten me as to what is wrong with working for a corporation in general?

btw, i'm NOT referring to people who would rather work outside than in an office, or people who are tradesmen or craftsmen, etc. Sitting behind a desk or in an office isn't for everyone.

 

[-SD-]

some people are inherently turned off by what they perceive as being a "cog in the wheel" or "just a number" at a large corp. They also think there are too many rules or regulations and cant "express themselves" how they see fit. So like you said, its usually misfits or non-adapters of sorts that dont work the the corp environment.

 

[stilleto]

my SIL gets all these stupid ideas in her head sometimes (she believes anything she reads) and then gets annoyed if others don't take her word as gospel.

she must have been a nightmare to work with.

 

[rubberneck]

in

 

[javaguru]

Corporate America = unnecessary Bureaucracy and number of meetings/conference calls.

 

[KickNitRight]

Then there's the political side. Some people see corporate America as the great satan that controls America and they don't want to contribute to the cause. But mostly I think it's people who don't fit in with bureaucratic systems. They're not "organizational" men/women.

 

[Scotsman]

From my experience working for very large companies 10,000+ employees and very small companies <20 here's what I think.

Benefits of working for a big company usually include better benefits and higher pay.

Detractor mainly is that you are a number in a system and will thusly be laid off should your number come up.

Benefits of working for a small company usually include better interaction with management and more job security.

Detractor is mainly lower pay.

There are of course exceptions to this.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Lestat]

First off let me preface, I work for Corporate America, a Fortune 500.

Some companies are responsible ones, but many, even the majority are not. Almost all jobs at my company are professional level with salaries that put you in a solid middle class status.

However, Corporate America gets a bad rap because historially, and traditionall (isn't that redundant) they are a way to consolidate massive amounts of funds into the pockets of a select few. They employ large masses of people at the lowest wage possible, striving to make the execs, or board of directors rich. In publicly traded companies its not really too much different. Look at McDonalds, the majority of its employees make shit, get no benefits, and are arguably being exploited, while a small minority of employees get filthy rich. You can easily see how such a company would get a bad rap.

 

[Razorguns]

u mean being a cubicle monkey being a slave to an old fat balding loser who has his own interests at heart. busting your ass just to pay for overpriced cars and houses. and only have 2 days a week to actually enjoy life?

that's okay. you work hard, someone above you makes bank. while the system is great on paper - voluntary work with freedoms - it has been abused by the elites to trap you in this cycle cuz corporate america needs it's slaves, i mean workers.

i'll pass. 40 years being someone's bitch - i think i can accomplish more in life in other ways. people survived thousands of years w/o 'corporate america' - i'll be fine.

r

 

[Lestat]

u mean being a cubicle monkey being a slave to an old fat balding loser who has his own interests at heart. busting your ass just to pay for overpriced cars and houses. and only have 2 days a week to actually enjoy life?

that's okay. you work hard, someone above you makes bank. while the system is great on paper - voluntary work with freedoms - it has been abused by the elites to trap you in this cycle cuz corporate america needs it's slaves, i mean workers.

i'll pass. 40 years being someone's bitch - i think i can accomplish more in life in other ways. people survived thousands of years w/o 'corporate america' - i'll be fine.

r

Merry Christmas Nav! Good to see you around.s

 

[Razorguns]

Merry Christmas Nav! Good to see you around.s

u 2. i'm so freakin' busy, i need to hire 20 mexicans with degrees. my personal assistants would need personal assistants.

sometimes i'm jealous of folks with comfy 9-5 40hr jobs.

r

 

[Lestat]

u 2. i'm so freakin' busy, i need to hire 20 mexicans with degrees. my personal assistants would need personal assistants.

sometimes i'm jealous of folks with comfy 9-5 40hr jobs.

r

what are you doing for work?

 

[Razorguns]

what are you doing for work?

mah band, mah movie, taking care of my gf's acting career, handling my parents real estate investments and being sexy in a society that is jealous and spiteful of anyone who is ridiculously sexy. Sometimes i just wanna cry.

r

 

[healother]

so my SIL came over today so she could ride with me to her parents house.

She asks me about my job and then she says, "god, i don't miss corporate america at all. I hate it."

now, i didn't say anything negative about my job- i actually really like it, but i've heard her and other people talk poorly about 'corporate america' before. USUALLY, it's from someone who is kind of a misfit, or who has trouble getting along with others. someone who is overly opinionated or doesn't adapt to different situations, etc.

I don't think i've ever heard a valid negative comment about "corporate america" and frankly, i'm not even sure what that means other than "a very large company".

can someone enlighten me as to what is wrong with working for a corporation in general?

btw, i'm NOT referring to people who would rather work outside than in an office, or people who are tradesmen or craftsmen, etc. Sitting behind a desk or in an office isn't for everyone.

are you still working that one job where they had no work for you to do for a month so you just sat in an office all day?

 

[Lestat]

are you still working that one job where they had no work for you to do for a month so you just sat in an office all day?

oh snap!

 

[redshirt27se]

in short


they don't understand economics



corporate america is good for america

 

[stilleto]

are you still working that one job where they had no work for you to do for a month so you just sat in an office all day?

the one where I made a lot of money and did what i wanted ?

yeah, but i have more real work now.

 

[Razorguns]

if u go for a job purely for the paycheck == life will suck.

so many do that. stupidity at it's finest.

 

[SaladFork]

are you still working that one job where they had no work for you to do for a month so you just sat in an office all day?

Sweeeet!!! Sounds like my old job!

 

[biteme]

u mean being a cubicle monkey being a slave to an old fat balding loser who has his own interests at heart. busting your ass just to pay for overpriced cars and houses. and only have 2 days a week to actually enjoy life?

that's okay. you work hard, someone above you makes bank. while the system is great on paper - voluntary work with freedoms - it has been abused by the elites to trap you in this cycle cuz corporate america needs it's slaves, i mean workers.

i'll pass. 40 years being someone's bitch - i think i can accomplish more in life in other ways. people survived thousands of years w/o 'corporate america' - i'll be fine.

r

I love you.

 

[txbondsman]

I have worked for two Fortune 50 companies, I had no problem with the jobs, they only are in a Dilbert cubicle if that is the job use chose, I traveled alot, but the hours away from home sucked.
I had a problem with Pitney Bowes when my regional boss was fired (even though he was well over his quota every month) because he and his boss didn't like each other. When I worked for GTE, the man under the VP ( Director of Domestic Opporations) was "reassigned" after the VP moved an hourly waged secretary he was screwing into that job. That means her pussy was worth being 3rd in the corporation, Pres-VP-secretary who is giving up the pussy, not much motivation for a guy who is working his ass off to move up n the company....

being self-employed for the last 20 years, it has it's up's N down's too, but it's way more rewarding to make your own way and creat something that you may leave to your family if they choose to have this type of career and lifestyle...

 

[digimon7068]

there wouldn't BE and america w/o corporate america. . .that's why they get tax breaks, etc. . .they employ an ass-load of people. . .without GE, GM, WallyWorld, et al, we'd all be screwed. . .

 

[txbondsman]

there wouldn't BE and america w/o corporate america. . .that's why they get tax breaks, etc. . .they employ an ass-load of people. . .without GE, GM, WallyWorld, et al, we'd all be screwed. . .

yep! Let's hear it, "TAX CUTS FOR BIG BUSINESS!!" that way we all stay in the black.....

 

[digimon7068]

yep! Let's hear it, "TAX CUTS FOR BIG BUSINESS!!" that way we all stay in the black.....

when people start bashing corporate america i just sit back and think "man, if you could just see how closely connected we are, you'd change your tune". . .i live in small town usa. . .14,000 souls give or take a few. . .there are 3 or 4 publicly-traded companies (or a subsidiary thereof) that employ about half of the working population. . .the rest of us exist because of those companies. . .period. . .

 

[Razorguns]

there wouldn't BE and america w/o corporate america. . .that's why they get tax breaks, etc. . .they employ an ass-load of people. . .without GE, GM, WallyWorld, et al, we'd all be screwed. . .

this country was built w/o 'corporate america'. it was built on capitalism and democracy. which is a separate animal.

ca = shoving people into shitty ass jobs they hate, dealing with drama and bullshit, making them expendable so you can pay them less, and load them up wtih debt so they're afraid of losing their jobs.

add in a shitty ass public school system - and you brainwash young kids into believing from day 0, that the above system is the BEST they can achieve in life, and leading the rat race, with an overpriced home and car, means they MADE it in life. Success!

The system is designed like this, to keep americans as working slaves. However, with the global economy kicking americas butts - and their systems are far superior to ours -- even working in CA will one day be a fantasy.

The system fails cuz too many people get debt, and then pick jobs based upon paychecks rather than enjoyment. And study after study has shown - the higher the paycheck, the more miserable and shitty the job.

what really sucks - is when you can't even GET a job cuz of high unemployment. That's when bosses and owners can really treat workers like shit.

don't incur debt.

r

 

[Bikini Mod]

I come from a long line of self-employment so I never did well working for other people.

I mean, if you already have a certain degree of responsibility at your position, why not do it for yourself? <---- just my .02 Why would you allow your fate to be decided by someone else's ability to pink slip ya at any moment?

 

[healother]

the one where I made a lot of money and did what i wanted ?

yeah, but i have more real work now.

ahh, figures, things dont stay that way forever!

 

[needtogetarmy]

so my SIL came over today so she could ride with me to her parents house.

She asks me about my job and then she says, "god, i don't miss corporate america at all. I hate it."

now, i didn't say anything negative about my job- i actually really like it, but i've heard her and other people talk poorly about 'corporate america' before. USUALLY, it's from someone who is kind of a misfit, or who has trouble getting along with others. someone who is overly opinionated or doesn't adapt to different situations, etc.

I don't think i've ever heard a valid negative comment about "corporate america" and frankly, i'm not even sure what that means other than "a very large company".

can someone enlighten me as to what is wrong with working for a corporation in general?

btw, i'm NOT referring to people who would rather work outside than in an office, or people who are tradesmen or craftsmen, etc. Sitting behind a desk or in an office isn't for everyone.

There are pros and cons.

A good example of how bad it can be: the WSJ recently had an article on the guy who developed Liptor. It generates billions of dollars per year for the pharma company that sells it. He recently got shit-canned (along with his entire research department). He gets jack shit for benefits and the company he works for will continue to make like $4+ billion per year off of his discovery. If he was an independent chemist this would not have happened (then again he may not have discovered it without the resources of a big pharma company).

Personally, I am very independent and I like forging my own path, thus I do not, and will never work, for a big corporation.

 

[Razorguns]

There are pros and cons.

A good example of how bad it can be: the WSJ recently had an article on the guy who developed Liptor. It generates billions of dollars per year for the pharma company that sells it. He recently got shit-canned (along with his entire research department). He gets jack shit for benefits and the company he works for will continue to make like $4+ billion per year off of his discovery. If he was an independent chemist this would not have happened (then again he may not have discovered it without the resources of a big pharma company).

Personally, I am very independent and I like forging my own path, thus I do not, and will never work, for a big corporation.

why would a company fire a guy who made them $4b? something doesn't add up. A guy like that could continue to create something that would make more money.

If you generate revenue for ANY company - you will always be treated like royalty. If you're an expense (99% of employees) - you will be treated as such.

It's all about leverage in c.a. Few realize this concept and everyone always over-estimates their importance. Most don't like to hear that they are easily replaceable.

It's all about money. Realize that as soon as u step through the door. If you bitch - remind yourself why you get up in the morning for this shitty job then.

r