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Considering COC grippers

WalkingBeast

WalkingBeast

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Hey everyone! I wanted to pick up a pair of COC grippers,cuz I like the concept behind them and would like to get my crushing grip real strong. Im not sure what level to start at though. Im able to hold 700+lbs using a mixed grip and chalk, if that helps. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! ThanX
 
Ive heard some good things about those COC grippers. Ive been consifering geting some myself. I think if you do end up getting them you wont be dissapointed.

Nick
 
NWinters said:
Ive heard some good things about those COC grippers. Ive been consifering geting some myself. I think if you do end up getting them you wont be dissapointed.

Nick
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ThanX bro!! I think I will soon! Only 20$. Ive wanted to pick up some bands also. Im sure I will eventually!
 
WalkingBeast said:
Hey everyone! I wanted to pick up a pair of COC grippers,cuz I like the concept behind them and would like to get my crushing grip real strong. Im not sure what level to start at though. Im able to hold 700+lbs using a mixed grip and chalk, if that helps. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! ThanX
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Holding strength and crushing strength are 2 completely different things. If you want to increase your grip strength for deadlifting, do static holds, with no mixed grip. Once or twice a week hold a bar (squeeze hard, don't merely hold on) for 60 seconds. I do 2 sets of this. The second set ends up being 30-45 seconds most of the time. When you can do 90 seconds, add 5 lbs.
 
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Debaser said:


Holding strength and crushing strength are 2 completely different things. If you want to increase your grip strength for deadlifting, do static holds, with no mixed grip. Once or twice a week hold a bar (squeeze hard, don't merely hold on) for 60 seconds. I do 2 sets of this. The second set ends up being 30-45 seconds most of the time. When you can do 90 seconds, add 5 lbs.
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Ya Beast .....Those COC's are worthless (according to my scientific notations) don't by them. Instead, buy an Albert Einstien calculator and a pocket protector, not only will you have muscles but all kinds people will wanna know your philosophy!!!!!

Im just fucking with ya Debaser.....(ya know, like I have been doing since you been here)
 
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NWinters said:



Ya Beast .....Those COC's are worthless (according to my scientific notations) don't by them. Instead, buy an Albert Einstien calculator and a pocket protector, not only will you have muscles but all kinds people will wanna know your philosophy!!!!!

Im just fucking with ya Debaser.....(ya know, like I have been doing since you been here)
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:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
DrBones said:
I asked for a bunch of that stuff from santa... but apparently santa doesn't order anythign off the net... DICK
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Santa's probabally sucking off one of his elves or perhaps even a reindeer :blow:
 
i bought the ivanko gripper to work w/first bc i didnt know which one to get and you can adjust it....but i got a pretty weak grip and i can only close the #1 w/both hands..almost get the 2 w/one hand.
 
Start with the #1. Even if it is easy to close, you'll need it as you progress for your warmup sets.

The CoC grippers make large jumps in resistance. The Ivanko is a better choice if you want to be able to make small jumps. Most serious grip trainees end up have both the CoC and Ivanko.

The CoC is portable in a pocket, where as the Ivanko is much bigger. The CoC can also be used for static holds.

All aspects of grip strength is important. I would use the CoC for your crushing grip, plates pinching for pinch grip, and double overhand holds (different bar diameters) for supporting.

There is not a huge carryover to double over hand deadlift grip from the CoC. Training your forearms (wrist curl) strength will help with the double overhand more than the CoC. The Crusher from Fat Bastard Barbell Co. will strengthen your wrist to keep it in proper position while deadlifting. As an example, I used to be able to close the #3, but no longer can, however, my deadlift supporting grip is stronger than when I could. I can only hit 150lb on the Crusher but can double overhand a 585 DL. The Crusher has helped with the forearm strength necessary to hold the bar while deadlifting.

Clean pulls will help your supporting strength too. Work on curling your wrists as you break the weight.
 
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Debaser said:


Holding strength and crushing strength are 2 completely different things. If you want to increase your grip strength for deadlifting, do static holds, with no mixed grip. Once or twice a week hold a bar (squeeze hard, don't merely hold on) for 60 seconds.
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Yes.
 
Beast, Buy all of them. Only having one or two would be like having one or two fixed weight bars and trying to develop a good squat or bench.

You may want to check out Beefbuilder grippers. There are more grippers, therefore a more gradual increase in difficulty. If you want the contact info for these, let me know.

I have a total of 9 coc's, the Ivanko, and a few other types. For some people its drugs, for me it's grip:p
 
yeah the coc's are great for annoying your co-workers, especially if you have really squeaky ones like mine.

everyone in the office wanted to have a go, it was quite amusing seeing just how weak some of the bigger guys were :)
 
Yes my post wasn't to be confused with saying they are bad, just that they train a different kind of hand strength. I own them myself.

Tweakle I agree it's funny to see some of the huge bodybuilders in my gym unable to close the #1.
 
I just ordered a COC No1 gripper! Cant wait to train with it! Hope its got some resistance. After I get it 24 times Ill move onto the No 2 gripper. ThanX guys!
 
Hey what's up? I just started using the COC grippers a few months ago. When I started, I couldn't close the #1. Now I can rep it 25 times and hold it shut for about 40 seconds...

But I can't close the #2! It's a big jump. :( I'm very close though...just a couple milimeters.

But yea you'll probably want the #2 soon.
 
MJBossman said:
Hey what's up? I just started using the COC grippers a few months ago. When I started, I couldn't close the #1. Now I can rep it 25 times and hold it shut for about 40 seconds...

But I can't close the #2! It's a big jump. :( I'm very close though...just a couple milimeters.

But yea you'll probably want the #2 soon.
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get the ivanko supergripper man, it allows for very small jumps in resistance
 
MJBossman said:
Hey what's up? I just started using the COC grippers a few months ago. When I started, I couldn't close the #1. Now I can rep it 25 times and hold it shut for about 40 seconds...

But I can't close the #2! It's a big jump. :( I'm very close though...just a couple milimeters.

But yea you'll probably want the #2 soon.
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Awesome! ThanX bro! The No 2 must be tough. Looking forward to trying it eventually though. ThanX again!
 
tuc biscuit said:


get the ivanko supergripper man, it allows for very small jumps in resistance
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Nice!! Too late now!! haha Luckily I only ordered one gripper from COC, so will see what happens! ThanX!
 
Reps do not add up on CoC

Training a gripper for reps does not necessarily assure closure of the next CoC.

The best technique is to use an old belt. Loop the belt around a 10lb plate tight, and then put the other end of the belt between the handles of a gripper you can close. Let the weight hang from the gripper and squeeze the handles hard enough to assure the weight doens't slip.

I've also ground down my #1 and #2 so that it has to be closed further. I'll post some pics this weekend.
 
I also just ordered the KTA program from cyberpump. Supposedly this is THE program for gripper strength.

Read more about it here
 
Debaser, I've been on kta for a few weeks now. When I started it, I was closing the #3 pretty consistantly, but not confidently. A few days ago I took a couple days off and had a test day. I slammed the #3 like a trainer and held it static shut for a looong time. It was cake.

The kta program is great. I've made a few minor changes to it, to fit me a little better. My hands hurt a lot, but they feel good.


StrongChE, you shouldn't be using a belt because they're typically too thick. Also, 10 lbs is way too much for a strap hold. Just a few pounds is more than enough.
 
Looks pretty cool. I, personally, would worry that it would affect my farmers walk greatly while following this book. I know that I've had to back off grip work a bit lately because my grip has felt overtrained a bit...with some achy hands.

B True
 
I heard one good thing about the KTA program is that, although your hands will kill you at first, it will build more toughness afterwards due to all the callousing.

Also, there is a KTA program for lifting the blob now too. I won't be worried about that one for awhile as my grip strength is nowhere near that advanced, but it's still something to keep in mind.
 
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Different thickness belts, straps, etc. will build your strength at different points. Even small wood blocks of differing widths between the handles have been used to help with closing the #4.

The weight of the plate and material used will determine how hard you have to squeeze to hold it.

Order John Brookfield's book Mastery of Hand Strength or the Gripmaster. They are only $15 and $20 respectively.

I only hear good things about the KTA program, and that doesn't cost much more than Brookfield's books.
 
StrongChE, I'm not saying your totally wrong, but Bossman said he was struggling with the last 2 mm. That would require the use of something much thinner than the average belt, unless you're doing a type of overcrush at that point. I have both of Brookfield's books btw, great stuff.

b-fold, it definately would affect your farmers. Its based on forced adaptation, and kills your strength for a while. For a few weeks(at least) your hands are definately overtrained and hurting. But, its ultimately for the best. Also, the program is very specific, so if you do other grip work during the program you could screw with the overall effectiveness. So, your other training would need to be altered or due to the effects from the program or the effects to the program. My hands have been hurting a lot during cleans, heavy shrugs, and some other stuff.
 
Thaibox

Thaibox is right, the last little bit requires a thin strap, and on the #3 that last mm is wicked hard.

I filed down my #2, but it didn't help as much as I thought it would with the #3. I was always able to grind that #3 after a good deadlift workout, but just picking it up during the day was a challenge.

How is Brookfield's 2nd book?
 
delldell2 said:
I want to buy the trainer but it's $20 plus shipping. Can you get it in any stores, or is it only mail-order?
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www.ironmind.com

Worth it...

B True
 
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