Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Ok i have been reading up on everyones favorite new candy, R-Ala, and was about to buy some from AF, when i read that a couple of moderators are somehow associated with AF and are deleting post about bad experiences with R-Ala. If this is so, this is bullshit. Anyone with a bad experience please post or pm me pronto, thanks!
Conflict of Intrests HERE?
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macrophage69alpha
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there is only one moderator that contributed to the development of r-ala... me
and the only person who had posts(one post.. because he copied it to all the r-ala threads) deleted was Iceman, mostly because he is attacking posters solely to increase sales of his racemic ALA.. which is hand capped (not GMP manufactured).. it is really quite sad that he has taken this route..
no one has had their results deleted.. no one is more interested in seeing them than I.. particularly the difference in response between ALA and r-ala.. and how response varies dependent on diet..
if you read through the posts most are postive.. others.. particularly those keto oriented are less certain.. though this may be due to the fact that high ala doses may cause false positives with ketostix-- but not clear at this time..
but its early.. at lot more use with different variables (even with racemic) is necessary to see what true benefits are.. though it is clear that as anti-oxident and glucose disposal/insulin sensitivity agent.. r-ala is superior.. how that translates into bodybuilding results and what is the absolute best way to use is still an emerging idea..
and the only person who had posts(one post.. because he copied it to all the r-ala threads) deleted was Iceman, mostly because he is attacking posters solely to increase sales of his racemic ALA.. which is hand capped (not GMP manufactured).. it is really quite sad that he has taken this route..
no one has had their results deleted.. no one is more interested in seeing them than I.. particularly the difference in response between ALA and r-ala.. and how response varies dependent on diet..
if you read through the posts most are postive.. others.. particularly those keto oriented are less certain.. though this may be due to the fact that high ala doses may cause false positives with ketostix-- but not clear at this time..
but its early.. at lot more use with different variables (even with racemic) is necessary to see what true benefits are.. though it is clear that as anti-oxident and glucose disposal/insulin sensitivity agent.. r-ala is superior.. how that translates into bodybuilding results and what is the absolute best way to use is still an emerging idea..
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Well damn, it's so nice to hear the truth spoken in such a direct way, macro.
Hey, this is America....you and ulter are allowed to make a buck.....and kudo's to George for his open policy on the board.
OK, you deleted iceman....this may piss some people off, but at least you are man enough to step up to it.
But what I really like is that you will state that you don't have all the r-ala answers yet, and won't make claims about it that are not yet proven. I've seen some wild claims from others that ala can replace insulin.......hell's fire, glucophage won't even get that done. I'll wait for some straight talk from you on this topic. If this stuff has even modest insulin-like properties, I'm all ears cause I consider insulin management to be one of the 3 essentials of successful bodybuilding.
Hey, this is America....you and ulter are allowed to make a buck.....and kudo's to George for his open policy on the board.
OK, you deleted iceman....this may piss some people off, but at least you are man enough to step up to it.
But what I really like is that you will state that you don't have all the r-ala answers yet, and won't make claims about it that are not yet proven. I've seen some wild claims from others that ala can replace insulin.......hell's fire, glucophage won't even get that done. I'll wait for some straight talk from you on this topic. If this stuff has even modest insulin-like properties, I'm all ears cause I consider insulin management to be one of the 3 essentials of successful bodybuilding.
luto199 said:
One other thing to consider is that the AF store contributes a lot of money to this site and if it werent for their generous contribution there may not be a board here for others to have their posts deleted from. Its been a long time rule of EF to not allow advertising and we have been slacking on that rule big time and there are many people offering various items that promote their products here and not one of them besides AF(that I know of) contributes financially.
I put this on another thread but it really belongs on this one as well.....
AF is the company selling r-ALA, I am part of AF. AF is a sponsor of this board and pays lots of money to openly advertise via the banner at the top. There is nothing hidden or synister about it.
AF seeks out products that benefit body builders and bring them to market. We encourage people to use these products of course but we are more interested in their results being posted because from a market research standpoint it's a very valuable tool.
The feedback on the board is worth more than the sale of the product. We don't want "contrived" results posted, we need to know if the products really work like we want them to.
AF is the company selling r-ALA, I am part of AF. AF is a sponsor of this board and pays lots of money to openly advertise via the banner at the top. There is nothing hidden or synister about it.
AF seeks out products that benefit body builders and bring them to market. We encourage people to use these products of course but we are more interested in their results being posted because from a market research standpoint it's a very valuable tool.
The feedback on the board is worth more than the sale of the product. We don't want "contrived" results posted, we need to know if the products really work like we want them to.
macrophage69alpha
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luto199 said:
r-ALA is MORE potent.. in every aspect... but it is definitely less profitable compared to racemic.. which is the main reason that it is not carried (aside from the fact that there are only 2 manufacturers of the raw material).. which does not help with base price..
There were several supp companies trying to bring r-ALA to market. But the supplier was too expensive and r-ALA has a very short shelf life. If they manufactured 100,000 bottles and put them in a warehouse like they would do normally half the bottles would be too close to the expire date to sell by the time they moved them. Most supps last 4 years r-ALA is under 2 years. So they backed out. We make short fast runs as they are needed and sell them direct to the consumer so we are better suited to carry it.
