CLOMID what, why & How

[Shinobi]

Overall I felt the post was a good one, including the time when to start after WHAT product you used and the info about blurred vision. That part is VERY true.

But, your quote that says BTW....Tamoxifen (nolvadex) is almost an identicle drug and will work in the same way as clomid." is incorrect.

the key word here is "ALMOST" and at that, I mean it works as an anti-estrogen. Nolvadex does NOTHING to raise your natural test levels like Clomid does.

 

[Realgains]

Overall I felt the post was a good one, including the time when to start after WHAT product you used and the info about blurred vision. That part is VERY true.

But, your quote that says BTW....Tamoxifen (nolvadex) is almost an identicle drug and will work in the same way as clomid." is incorrect.

the key word here is "ALMOST" and at that, I mean it works as an anti-estrogen. Nolvadex does NOTHING to raise your natural test levels like Clomid does.

You are saying things that you really shouldn't bro. Nolvadex will also block estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus bro and some even think it is superior to clomid. Bill Llewellyn has a study to back that.

I have used both nolva and clomid post cycle and both work well .
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/magazine/i6clomid.html

If that link doesn't work then just do a search for " Bill Llewellyn and nolvadex " on Yahoo.


RG

 

[robsatx]

14 days or 18 days?

I am on 500MG TEST EN & EQ. Will use HCG @ week 5-7. Planning on 11 weeks. Will stop both at the same time. therefore, I am assuming to be on the safe side I should start after two weeks? Then stay on clomid for three weeks. In addition. I will start HCG during week 9 -10 of cycle. Any changes?

 

[Realgains]

Re: 14 days or 18 days?

I am on 500MG TEST EN & EQ. Will use HCG @ week 5-7. Planning on 11 weeks. Will stop both at the same time. therefore, I am assuming to be on the safe side I should start after two weeks? Then stay on clomid for three weeks. In addition. I will start HCG during week 9 -10 of cycle. Any changes?

Sounds okay but you could wait for about 18 days after the last shot of EQ before starting clomid. Be sure to do a loading dose of clomid at 300mg in divided odoses with food on day one.

RG

 

[HorseBalls]

Excellent post. Thanks for the info, Realgains. I thought I had done all my homework regarding post-cycle clomid therapy. I'm about to start it, and probably would have wasted 4 boxes by not taking it with food. I need all the help jump-starting the boys I can get.

By the way - I ran a cycle of enanthate @ 500mg for 10 weeks with D-Bol at 30mg per day for the first 5 weeks. I had no probelms with my skin at all, except for a small breakout on the back of one shoulder when I frontloaded my cycle. I recently finished two weeks of HCG/Nolva therapy and my skins a wreck. I had no problems while on, but now it's just plain scary to look at myself. Things fell apart right after I started the HCG/nolva. Any advice on how to manage the skin while using clomid?? I've put off starting clomid because my skin's all f**ked up...

Is it common to have no problems while on, and then have skin trouble while recovering?? I know the hormones are fluctuating big-time.

I find that my skin gets bad at the end of a cycle and actually gets better with clomid usage. I believe that acne is from fucked up hormones and the sooner you get them back to normal, the sooner your skin clears, IMO.
As for your skin I use rubbing alcohol and makeup pads. Very cheap and fries acne. If you use it the pad will be brown with dead skin, oil, etc.

 

[Realgains]

I find that my skin gets bad at the end of a cycle and actually gets better with clomid usage. I believe that acne is from fucked up hormones and the sooner you get them back to normal, the sooner your skin clears, IMO.
As for your skin I use rubbing alcohol and makeup pads. Very cheap and fries acne. If you use it the pad will be brown with dead skin, oil, etc.

Ya ...clomid really isn't bad on the skin...a few zits maybe but nothing like androgen use.

RG

 

[TraxZBT]

speaking of clomid... I just ended my cycle 3 days ago and took 300mg this morning.. My nuts went from small to larger than they were pre-cycle within a day. Damn this stuff is no joke.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Good info RG. But you probably already know my opinion on this but I'll chime in as the devils advocate anyway.

I believe 90% of of the people who use CLomid, don't need it.

In some people it helps. In others, it makes matters worse. Interesting to hear your conclusions that with a reasonable cycle it had no effect.

Clomid is a crapshoot. As RG said, androgen levels must be high in order for it to impart its effect. But how high is high?
It varies from individulal to individual but too many people seem to think Clomid is a "why not" drug, or a "playing it safe" drug. Then they wonder why a month after their cycle they still have no dick.

 

[Triple J]

Excellent post. Thanks for the info, Realgains. I thought I had done all my homework regarding post-cycle clomid therapy. I'm about to start it, and probably would have wasted 4 boxes by not taking it with food. I need all the help jump-starting the boys I can get.

By the way - I ran a cycle of enanthate @ 500mg for 10 weeks with D-Bol at 30mg per day for the first 5 weeks. I had no probelms with my skin at all, except for a small breakout on the back of one shoulder when I frontloaded my cycle. I recently finished two weeks of HCG/Nolva therapy and my skins a wreck. I had no problems while on, but now it's just plain scary to look at myself. Things fell apart right after I started the HCG/nolva. Any advice on how to manage the skin while using clomid?? I've put off starting clomid because my skin's all f**ked up...

Is it common to have no problems while on, and then have skin trouble while recovering?? I know the hormones are fluctuating big-time.

As I recall vitamin B5 in large amounts is helpful

 

[Shinobi]

...Then they wonder why a month after their cycle they still have no dick.

I agree 100%... Clomid can bring your test production back but that doesnt mean if you stop clomid the production will continue