Clomid vs. Post Cycle / unleashed / HCGenerate

[Stryker1992]

The good old debate. I have used both clomid and the post/unleashed/HCGenerate/forma combo with Phytoserms. On clomid, I felt like I was off-cycle. I had immediate strength and endurance drops, moodiness, almost no libido, and an overall slow recovery. it was torture to keep my gains. With the post/unleashed/forma/HCGen/Phyto combo, I felt like I never came off. Recovery was quick and painless, had that "alpha-male" feeling, strength increased, and libido was ridiculous. Can't wait for HMGenesis to come out!

I agree..Clomid made me a lil bitch.....my moods crashed as well as my drive and gains.

 

[bren565]

i say use both, u cant go wrong...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Some like both. Many can't tolerate the nasty sides of CLomid and/or nolva.

HCGen and forma while on

UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE once off. (Some like using some HMG for a little jump start. If you do, add some arimidex).

Follow with BRIDGE.

Simple and effective. You can't go wrong.

 

[nevertriedjuice]

i have a question, i just got off of a 2week anavar only cycle after some not so nice sides. my test levels in 2 weeks went from 415 to 100. im using hcgen and aspartic acid. stopped the clomid after day 3 as it made me feel like more sh!t. i know the anavar does not convert to estrogen, but now that my test levels are so low will my estrogen levels raise and become a problem? would it be beneficial to me to order some of these items mentioned in this post?

was only on for 2 weeks @30mg ed

 

[Nelson Montana]

i have a question, i just got off of a 2week anavar only cycle after some not so nice sides. my test levels in 2 weeks went from 415 to 100. im using hcgen and aspartic acid. stopped the clomid after day 3 as it made me feel like more sh!t. i know the anavar does not convert to estrogen, but now that my test levels are so low will my estrogen levels raise and become a problem? would it be beneficial to me to order some of these items mentioned in this post?

was only on for 2 weeks @30mg ed

Sometime se goes up when T goes down. But var doesn;t aromatize so you shouldn;t have elevated levels. You should have gotten you e checked when you got the blood test.

This is another thing -- people think var isn;t suppressive. Well...surprise. But 415 is a little low so you may be sensitive to it. I'd say get some UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE STAT. At any rate, it should come up but how quickly will depend on you age.

 

[RADAR]

.25 or .25 ED.?

someone told me i should take arimidex full tab EOD, to prevent gyno, was that just BS?

whats the best solution to combat gyno in my case of the 12 week cycle test/dbol??

lololol! Rocking chair trainer ,as i said do take Arimidex as you need some Estrogen to grow, too much and you start getting sides,that's why i suggested .25 EOD,and after a few days that is having no effect up it to .25 ED. a frikin whole tablet is way to much!

 

[nevertriedjuice]

Sometime se goes up when T goes down. But var doesn;t aromatize so you shouldn;t have elevated levels. You should have gotten you e checked when you got the blood test.

This is another thing -- people think var isn;t suppressive. Well...surprise. But 415 is a little low so you may be sensitive to it. I'd say get some UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE STAT. At any rate, it should come up but how quickly will depend on you age.

going to order some post cycle and unleashed today.
my test was 590 about 2 mos ago. since then, lots of cardio & clean diet and some stress in my life. wow, 415 is considered low? i thought anything above 300 was ok

 

[Nelson Montana]

going to order some post cycle and unleashed today.
my test was 590 about 2 mos ago. since then, lots of cardio & clean diet and some stress in my life. wow, 415 is considered low? i thought anything above 300 was ok

Not bad, but 500 is "normal", or at east necessary for decent results.

Cut the cardio. Get some extra sleep. Uee the UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE. steadily. You'll be fine.