clomid question

[TheOak84]

i dont take AS, but i do read a bit of the forum. i may experiment one day though

anyway, if you took just clomid, would that do anything to your current test levels? or would it be pointless?

would it raise the levels at all? or does it just help you recover/regenerate from a cycle?

ive heard of people taking just that and getting good results and looking good as well...

thanx

and merry x mas

 

[TheRide]

Hey bro,

I have never heard of just taking clomid on its own. Since its a female fertility aid, I can't imagine any benefit taking it on its own. Bump for more info..

 

[bigtravis]

if you dont want to use AAS then my suggestion would be to go with igf-1r3. will not mess with your natural hormone levels. and wont shut you down either. studies show an average 1lb. lean mass per week. run 6 weeks on 4 off. do research for dosage. my advise there would be 60-80 mcg. to start.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I dunno about test levels with clomid but at least to me, makes me horny as hell and makes me shoot baby batter just like my friend Peter North.

 

[LVTitan]

i see no need for clomid. especially by itself.
even after a cycle, i will never touch clomid again !! it is bad news my friend.

 

[Mr.X]

i dont take AS, but i do read a bit of the forum. i may experiment one day though

anyway, if you took just clomid, would that do anything to your current test levels? or would it be pointless?

would it raise the levels at all? or does it just help you recover/regenerate from a cycle?

ive heard of people taking just that and getting good results and looking good as well...

thanx

and merry x mas

clomid on it's own is a bad idea if it's not PCT, I can see you going emotionally wild already

merry christmas

 

[pursuit]

YES!! CLomid and Nolvadex will both raise your natural test levels even when not in PCT. I remember seeing a study where healthy males where given 20mg Nolvadex. After 2 weeks, their test levels were 148% of baseline and after 6 weeks it was 182% (simlar study for clomid). Nothing like steroids, but will help you gain/maintain muscle, keep low body fat, mood and sex drive.

I personally don't want to do steroids anymore so am going to just go on 8 weeks of Nolvadex, starting next week. I'll probably take a few weks off then start over again and repeat.

 

[TheOak84]

interesting. im only asking because i have d bol and clomid on hand. i did read online that clomid raises test levels and acts as an anti estrogen.

im just looking to experiment, maybe gain a bit of strenght in the process, im not too concerned with size, im already 5'3 180, too short, and too stubby looking

if anyone can comeup with a layout of those 2 products, itll be happy, if its not even worth it, then blah. just an idea, thanx

 

[DJ_UFO]

try it by yourself once you're clean and recovered. I haven't tried it for strenght and weight gain purposes, only for milk production. In my case, clomid doesn't do anything to my emotions. The only thing, makes me horny as hell and gives me insane amounts of cum. 300mg 3, 2 and 1 day before sex makes me a horse.

 

[vocor]

to me, it makes perfect sense that clomid or nolva would raise -- at least in the short term -- test levels. They really are anti-estrogens.

So, in a man's body, some testosterone converts to estrogen (and DHT, etc) naturally. So if your body is used to producing X grams of test and converting Y grams of it into estrogen, and the anti-e blocks that estrogen conversion, then yup, your body will have more test than usual until it adjusts. And you can reap those benefits.

I had similiar experience when I started finasteride. It blocks about 2/3 of test to DHT conversion, and for a while, my test levels were quite high, and blood tests revealed that. Eventually, my test levels returned to normal, basically.

A cycle of an anti-e would raise your test levels, but not on the same order as adding more test and the effects would diminish over time (don't know the time frame though, depends on the individual).

 

[The Red Dragon]

It probably does increase natural test since its suppressing estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus but is it worth possible side effects - acne, depression, anxiety, visual tracers, etc - you might not get any but I came across so many complaints about clomid

 

[TheOak84]

well, then i might give some of that a try. in this case i was thinking

2 weeks of clomid 100 e/d
4 weeks of d bol 20-25 mg e/d
4 weeks of clomid 100 mg e/d

any suggesting for using those 2 products?

 

[digimon7068]

Hey bro,

I have never heard of just taking clomid on its own. Since its a female fertility aid, I can't imagine any benefit taking it on its own. Bump for more info..

Actually, it's a male fertility aid as well. . .causes increased test and sperm production. However, using it as a muscle-building (rather than just PCT) supplement is probably not advisable. You'd probably have to take a siginificant amount to notice an appreciable difference, most people encounter some fairly significant emotional side effects and, it works indirectly, by stimulating your pituitary and there's some anecdotal evidence that long term use could increase your chances of a tumor in that area.

 

[kethnaab]

take clomid

take girl to chick-flick

impress her with your sensitivity by crying real tears

get laid

who cares about the muscle? you got laid! isn't that what you're lifting for anyway?

 

[TheOak84]

take clomid

take girl to chick-flick

impress her with your sensitivity by crying real tears

get laid

who cares about the muscle? you got laid! isn't that what you're lifting for anyway?

no... thats not y i train...

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Oak, I say go for it... just not too long. Expriment safely and post results

- SGT

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

clomid on it's own is a bad idea if it's not PCT, I can see you going emotionally wild already

merry christmas

lol

 

[LVTitan]

just dont break up with anyone while on it... the depression was suicidal for me, i'll never touch clomid again

 

[TheOak84]

just dont break up with anyone while on it... the depression was suicidal for me, i'll never touch clomid again

fortunatly, my heart is like a rock.. lol