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clomid is underrated!

jumpmaster82

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I think alot of people go a bit overboard when it comes to pct. Now dont get me wrong pct is just as important as the cycle itself in the long run. But i hear of people using like 4 or 5 different drugs for pct and that is just unnecessary to me. If youve been on a hardcore stack of 4 or 5 dif gear yea i can see it. But whats with these guys taking beginner light cycles then spending 3 times more $ on the pct. Unless im on long or really stacked cycle, ive found that clomid by itself is more than affective. i think clomid is one of the best if not the best pct drug. Im not saying use clomid in all pct, im just saying dont forget about it.
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
I think alot of people go a bit overboard when it comes to PCT - post cycle therapy - . Now dont get me wrong PCT - post cycle therapy - is just as important as the cycle itself in the long run. But i hear of people using like 4 or 5 different drugs for PCT - post cycle therapy - and that is just unnecessary to me. If youve been on a hardcore stack of 4 or 5 dif gear yea i can see it. But whats with these guys taking beginner light cycles then spending 3 times more $ on the PCT - post cycle therapy - . Unless im on long or really stacked cycle, ive found that clomid by itself is more than affective. i think clomid is one of the best if not the best PCT - post cycle therapy - drug. Im not saying use clomid in all PCT - post cycle therapy - , im just saying dont forget about it.
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Maybe. Shoot huge loads, but the emotional rollercoaster ride sucks.
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
I think alot of people go a bit overboard when it comes to PCT - post cycle therapy - . Now dont get me wrong PCT - post cycle therapy - is just as important as the cycle itself in the long run. But i hear of people using like 4 or 5 different drugs for PCT - post cycle therapy - and that is just unnecessary to me. If youve been on a hardcore stack of 4 or 5 dif gear yea i can see it. But whats with these guys taking beginner light cycles then spending 3 times more $ on the PCT - post cycle therapy - . Unless im on long or really stacked cycle, ive found that clomid by itself is more than affective. i think clomid is one of the best if not the best PCT - post cycle therapy - drug. Im not saying use clomid in all PCT - post cycle therapy - , im just saying dont forget about it.
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The first part of your post is dead on but I think you're giving too much credit to the clomid.

I've seen lots of guys recover with just dexx, or just supps, or nothing at all.

And since Clomid causes nasty side effects in many people including the supression of libido it's hardly the optimum choice. It works for some but most people can leave it out altogether and do fine, if not better.
 
There is a whole lot of reasons why bro. One reason that has been becoming more and more common is that just clomid alone has not been working for a lot of people. Another reason that has become common is that clomid makes a lot of people feel like shit. Now don't you go getting me wrong. I think clomid is good stuff that works for some people. Some other reason people are using other things is that they make them feel so much better when coming off, keeps up there sex drive well coming off, keeps them from getting depressed, keeps them from feeling like a girl, and a whole lot more.

Some people put every thing they have into there cycles and PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . They invest blood,sweet,tears,time,money,heart, and sole and don't give a shit what the cost as long as its perfect for them.

What ever works for you is what I say. Just remember any money you spend you're spending it on your biggest asset, yourself. If you are not worth doing it the best way you can do it for you. Then why are you doing it in the first place?

needto
 
needtogetaas said:
There is a whole lot of reasons why bro. One reason that has been becoming more and more common is that just clomid alone has not been working for a lot of people. Another reason that has become common is that clomid makes a lot of people feel like shit. Now don't you go getting me wrong. I think clomid is good stuff that works for some people. Some other reason people are using other things is that they make them feel so much better when coming off, keeps up there sex drive well coming off, keeps them from getting depressed, keeps them from feeling like a girl, and a whole lot more.

Some people put every thing they have into there cycles and PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . They invest blood,sweet,tears,time,money,heart, and sole and don't give a shit what the cost as long as its perfect for them.

What ever works for you is what I say. Just remember any money you spend you're spending it on your biggest asset, yourself. If you are not worth doing it the best way you can do it for you. Then why are you doing it in the first place?

needto
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Even if clomid works for you, you should add supps to help things along. The body has to take over on its own at some point and should be as equiped as possible.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Even if clomid works for you, you should add supps to help things along. The body has to take over on its own at some point and should be as equiped as possible.
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I think so to but I rather just let them have it then argue about it.
 
my workout partner is in his mid-30's and more often than not does not run P C T or anything significant anyway and he recovers amazingly... in fact, better than most people I know.... he's a freak in that way... definitely not the norm

point is, the body WILL recover eventually, but who wants to wait that long and experience that slump? personally, I HATE no-lva AND clo-mid... the sides were horrible and they didn't help with recovery all that much...

I've had better luck with OTC stuff / supplements (i.e sustain, unleashed, myogenx... there, I mentioned one from every company so everyone's happy *grin*)
 
njmuscleguy said:
my workout partner is in his mid-30's and more often than not does not run P C T or anything significant anyway and he recovers amazingly... in fact, better than most people I know.... he's a freak in that way... definitely not the norm

point is, the body WILL recover eventually, but who wants to wait that long and experience that slump? personally, I HATE no-lva AND clo-mid... the sides were horrible and they didn't help with recovery all that much...

I've had better luck with OTC stuff / supplements (i.e sustain, unleashed, myogenx... there, I mentioned one from every company so everyone's happy *grin*)
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:) LOL. Well, it's true! Part of my reasoning for developing POST CYCLE and UNLEASHED was a better alternative to clomid and nolva because I absolutely hated them and figured others had the same reaction. PP and Anthony have added some excellant supps as well. These days it's just a much better way to go.
 
I looked for a research report I had regarding clomid and I cannot find it...

It was a real world case study where a 30 year old man had used steroids, we went to see the docs, and had the test levels of an 8 year old girl.

They prescribed 100mg clomid ED for two weeks and his test levels went back up but eventually crashed.

They then stuck him on clomid for two months straight 100mg/ED and afterwards his test levels were above normal and every subsequent visit back showed basically the same positive results.

I use clomid religiously, I always get my blood work done before and after cycle, and I have never had a problem.

Scientific studies and things like blood work are conclusive proof as to whether something is working or not. I've have the proof clomid works for me.
 
clomid aint that good

but you are right, thes guys who are doing test only only need clomid ( IF THAT )

I bet the 250mg ew guys could get off on fine on some of our sponsor products/naty test boosters SERIOUSLY
 
I use clomid only but at the same time I aint doing heavy cycles anymore. And for those who say clomid will make you feel like shit and cry like a baby, try popping some mdma or amphetamines and see how you feel the day after. It will make clomids look like a joke.
 
The Old Vet said:
I looked for a research report I had regarding clomid and I cannot find it...

It was a real world case study where a 30 year old man had used steroids, we went to see the docs, and had the test levels of an 8 year old girl.

They prescribed 100mg clomid ED for two weeks and his test levels went back up but eventually crashed.

They then stuck him on clomid for two months straight 100mg/ED and afterwards his test levels were above normal and every subsequent visit back showed basically the same positive results.

I use clomid religiously, I always get my blood work done before and after cycle, and I have never had a problem.

Scientific studies and things like blood work are conclusive proof as to whether something is working or not. I've have the proof clomid works for me.
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But there are many other factors. Just as you mentioned, you can crash on Clomid once you stop. That doesn't sound like PC T. It sounds like relying on something else.

And Clomid doesn't always raise test in everyone and it can also rasie estrogen. It also affects mood and vision problems are written right in the literature that comes with the box. So, it's not so cut and dry.
 
manny78 said:
I use clomid only but at the same time I aint doing heavy cycles anymore. And for those who say clomid will make you feel like shit and cry like a baby, try popping some mdma or amphetamines and see how you feel the day after. It will make clomids look like a joke.
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oopppppps

Clomid is good shit at a moderate dose
 
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So it seems there is much debate over this. Can anyone say then, without a doubt, what is the BEST thing to take to return natural test levels. I don't care about emotional swings or any of that crap (I liked the MDMA comment ) :p but simply what is guaranteed to do its job and make sure your nuts don't swallow themselves?
 
ryno9000 said:
So it seems there is much debate over this. Can anyone say then, without a doubt, what is the BEST thing to take to return natural test levels. I don't care about emotional swings or any of that crap (I liked the MDMA comment ) :p but simply what is guaranteed to do its job and make sure your nuts don't swallow themselves?
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That's easy -- HC G, UNLEASHED, POST-CYCLE, Dermancrine. Lots of meat, eggs, sleeping and squating.
 
josenunes said:
for 4/6 week cycles is HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - really necessary?
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4 weeks and no testicular shrinkage? Probabaly not essential. A little wouldn't hurt. Just the supps should be fine.
 
my buddys take clomid in pct, and hostly they say it makes them sooooooooo depressed and they even contemplated suicide (no jokes bro)

peace
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
my buddys take clomid in PCT - post cycle therapy - , and hostly they say it makes them sooooooooo depressed and they even contemplated suicide (no jokes bro)

peace
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I believe it. It just zaps the life out of you. Horrible drug. Not meant to be taken by men anyway.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I believe it. It just zaps the life out of you. Horrible drug. Not meant to be taken by men anyway.
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im going to use it in my upcoming cycle for pct just because i have some lying around and it will be my first time with it, hopefully i wont get depressed, if i do fuck that im going to stop it, and stick to otc supps

peace
 
been using clomid for years and it's working fine for me.

Just keep it a 50mg ED and no more than 3-4 weeks
 
Varga said:
been using clomid for years and it's working fine for me.

Just keep it a 50mg ED and no more than 3-4 weeks
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Agreed.

If it works for you then take it, if the sides are undesirable and it doesn't help you recover then don't.
 
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