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Clen Vs ECA

Best fat burner

  • ECA stack

    Votes: 27 37.0%

  • Clenbuterol

    Votes: 38 52.1%

  • Other (please state)

    Votes: 8 11.0%
  • Total voters
    73
I know it sounds biased, but the truth is I have tried many many OTC fat burners on the market, and have been disappointed with about 80% of them. Do not get me wrong, not all of them are garbage however you can spend a lot of money on supplements trying to find something that actually works. Some people cannot stand Clenbuterol becauseof the shaky hands or just makes them feel bad. Only thing I notice when I am using Clenbuterol is a clinching of the jaw.
 
I used the ECA stack and dropped alot of bodyfat, but at the same time lost alot of muscle with it. Have not used clenbuterol and am thinking of trying with my next cycle, possibly with T3. I have read that clen can make any steroids you are taking less effective....comments?
 
Clenbuterol can cause a down-regulation in testicular androgen receptors. More human studies need to be done IMO regarding this issue and also anti or catabolic properties.
 
Bros respond differently to both compounds. I, for one, respond much better to ECA. I also like the fact I can run it longer with less sides. I'm starting to think that Clen is for that last hurdle you are having trouble jumping. ECA is a longer haul, steadier loss of fat.

:Chef::tuc:
 
This is what I like about EF we can give all our views in opinions in a cilvilized manner. Clenbuterol is not for everyone, and I firmly believe this. Anyone that reads this thread and needs help running Clenbuterol send me a PM and I will do my best to help you out.:)
 
im runnin clen now, im one week in and i can see a small difference already. I feel bloated and get headaches flat out on it though, but the shake dont bother me at all. I will be able to compare between that winny soon, i found winny deadly
 
I've heard of an effect on adrenergic receptors, but androgenic receptors? Do you have a link to the studies on this?

eClenbuterol said:
Clenbuterol can cause a down-regulation in testicular androgen receptors. More human studies need to be done IMO regarding this issue and also anti or catabolic properties.
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I like to stack them both.. 2 weeks on Clen 2 weeks off with ECA, this way i'm getting the best of both worlds. Oh yes, but not longer than 2 months on clen.
 
eClenbuterol said:
Clenbuterol can cause a down-regulation in testicular androgen receptors. More human studies need to be done IMO regarding this issue and also anti or catabolic properties.
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I know some bodybuilders (I'm talking top competitors) use clen during PCT and state they do this because of it's anti-catabolic properties. I know that we haven't seen anything suggesting this at all, yet lots of the big guys do it. I'd like to know if this is true or not. Hopefully we can find out some day.

I like both products. ECA can be bought OTC so that is a plus. ECA is also easier to use because you don't have to ramp up and then get off like you do with Clen.

I like to use ECA as my main fatburner, then after a few weeks I get off the ECA and throw in a 2 week blast of Clenbuterol.
 
This fits into the "other" category of the polls, but I really like Yohimbine HCl. Not Yohimbine, but specifically the HCl powder form that Nutraplanet makes. ECA works, but Yohimbine is more potent for me. Also, ECA doesn't do much to supress my appetite whereas Yohimbine HCl completely shuts down my appetite for 3-4 hours as all the fatty acids are sent to the bloodstream. Yohimbine bark makes me noxious, but the powder in it's alkaline form is great. Tons of energy, and depending how much you take there are varying levels of how much thermogenesis and sweating one gets. Again, I really like it because it's dirt cheap and because is supresses my appetite as well, rather than just expending energy as heat.
 
CLEN Hands down, but I agree with everyone else... ECA is something you can use forever or quite often, while clen is that kick you need to go over a the hill...
I never done it without T3 though so biased, but with T3 it's just something.. Works much better when your lower in your BF close to 10%

And as for it's anti-catabolic affects, no studies prove such allegations, only on animals did that happen, so I'm very doubtful
 
Also, does anyone know if the 3 weeks on Clen or even more are possible if using Benadryl , I'm really interested to find out
 
Both clen and Eca work on beta-2 receptors!!!
Better off switching between a fatburner like adderllin which works on beta-3 receptors.
Or you could just not hit them at all.... Your choice.
I have found giving the receptors time Off equals better results.
 
I've been told you build up a tolerance after 2 weeks so both products are good and should be alternated...that's the route I'd go.
 
I have used both and I found that ECA was better and seen better results but I think thats becasue I had more energy and had better workouts on it.
With Clen, I feel a little sluggish and have a crash, I havent cycled long enough on it to give a good honest opinion.
I do find that clen flushs the water out of me and gives me a dry look, anyone find this aswell?
also I want to mention BE CAREFUL with ECA just because its not OTC does not mean its safe, if you do use it cycle it. It has potential to completely eliminate sex drive, iv been suffering from this for almost 2 years with little recovery. Does anyone have any solution to help cure this? I would really appreciate it!
 
I haven't used Clen so I'm not going to vote, but I would like to clear up one thing about EC/ECA. It does stimulate the beta-3 receptors. That is why it can be used for so long. Your beta-2 receptors will indeed down regulate after a week or two, and your appetite won't be suppressed anymore. The thermogenic effects however, do not go away, and in fact actually improve for quite some time. This has been shown to be due to continued beta-3 stimulation. It has also been shown to be protein sparing.

I will note however that most EC/ECA studies are performed on obese subjects, and not those of us looking to lose those last few %. I'd post my references, but I'm tired and will be going to bed soon.

Maybe tomorrow.
 
I personally love ECA Fat Burners. It always works well for me. Once I tried Clen and T3 and I didn't get much results. Could have been bunk stuff though, guy got it from Mexico.
 
I pick adderllin first because it effects my heart the least I'd day. Believe it or not ephedrine makes me feel strange and I don't think it is very healthy for me. I do take clen, just in small doses as a stack with adderllin. Taking clen and ephedrine together I think is not smart and I don't advise.
 
Albuterol, more efficient. more anti catabolic.. like needto said... far better choice.
 
I'll have to give albuterol a try, sometime. I personally had insane results from ephedrine + caffeine + EGCg and didn't see near the results from clen.
 
King Leonidas said:
So simply ran by itself?

Can y'all lay out a plan on this, like how often and how much to take?
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This is from Nate

You want to start out with 3mg 3 times a day and then add a 3mg dose every 3 days..Once you reach 6 3mg doses a day you stay at this level until its over. So it would look like this..

Days 1 3mg morning noon and night
Day 2 3mg morning noon and night
Day 3 3mg morning noon and night
Day 4 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 5 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 6 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 7 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 8 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 9 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 10 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 11 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 12 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 13 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 14 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 15 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 16 6mg 8am 6mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Once you reach 3 6mg doses stay at this level for up to 6 weeks.
No need to taper down just come off.
 
kkklick said:
This is from Nate

You want to start out with 3mg 3 times a day and then add a 3mg dose every 3 days..Once you reach 6 3mg doses a day you stay at this level until its over. So it would look like this..

Days 1 3mg morning noon and night
Day 2 3mg morning noon and night
Day 3 3mg morning noon and night
Day 4 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 5 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 6 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 7 3mg 8am 12pm,4pm 8pm
Day 8 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 9 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 10 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 11 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 3mg 8pm
Day 12 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 13 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 14 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 15 6mg 8am 3mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Day 16 6mg 8am 6mg 12pm 6mg 8pm
Once you reach 3 6mg doses stay at this level for up to 6 weeks.
No need to taper down just come off.
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Thanks for the info bro.

Where can you get Albuterol? It looks like it's prescription only
 
ECA stack...seriously, I've said this before..I think Clen talk should be not allowed...this shit is fucking terrible for your body...I'm serious, one of the worst things..
 
wootoom said:
ECA stack...seriously, I've said this before..I think Clen talk should be not allowed...this shit is fucking terrible for your body...I'm serious, one of the worst things..
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I agree Clen is dog shit

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^^^this. And i agree with banning clen discussion. It's an "oh shit i forgot my show was in may and i went out to an easter bachelor party and had too much new orleans booze and cajun." It's not for normal people. Many bodybuilders have died from clen. It's easy to OD on and can rape your heart. I did it once and I had CNS impulses that were insane... That was a conservative cycle. Never again.
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
^^^this. And i agree with banning clen discussion. It's an "oh shit i forgot my show was in may and i went out to an easter bachelor party and had too much new orleans booze and cajun." It's not for normal people. Many bodybuilders have died from clen. It's easy to OD on and can rape your heart. I did it once and I had CNS impulses that were insane... That was a conservative cycle. Never again.
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Honestly man, I'm usually conservative and only speak my opinion on personal experience..I took Clen for one day..one day! I was sweating so bad and I thought my heart was going to explode. I couldn't sleep for 3 days! It was so gross..I felt so disgusting as well...it's an absolute terrible drug.
 
EC for sure (I never use A), better yet, ECY. There is a specific protocol that needs to
Be followed if using E with Y, so be sure to read up on it.
 
Clen is shit...I too had some many years ago. Used it once and just found it impossible to work out with and got headaches.

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ha1a1 said:
Clen is shit...I too had some many years ago. Used it once and just found it impossible to work out with and got headaches.

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Then you were taking too high a dosage.

Don't blame the drug when you take too much. You can apply that to any supplement.

All that matters is "does it work"?
 
bakemeacookie said:
Then you were taking too high a dosage.

Don't blame the drug when you take too much. You can apply that to any supplement.

All that matters is "does it work"?
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I took the minimum dosage then after sides halved it. It may work for some but it also causes unbearable sides for others....just like any drugs..this was many years ago and I would not even consider clen these days for other reasons. I do know of people who have used it and were happy with the results and good luck to them.

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I'm taking EC at the moment and it's working great. Tried clen twice in the past and never saw results, just got terrible cramps! ECA is much easier 2 get and cheaper and will do the job
 
ha1a1 said:
I took the minimum dosage then after sides halved it.
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u took min. dosage and halfed and STILL had unbearable sides??? You weren't stacking with other supps?

Only thing i can think is that you are the minority who is very sensitive to stuff like this. I would try another product that uses another method (different receptors, cns stimulant, appetite suppression, thyroid hormone or mitchondria/atp affector).
 
I love albuterol. 6mg 3x a day coupled with a high protein, mod carb and low fat diet has done wonders for me. My fat loss is good and my cardio increases daily.
 
Don't mind Clen sides except for the cramping. Wow. Also not much for results so not worth it.

Albuterol - doesn't do shit for me. Sides negligible but zero results

ECA - best of the three for me. Minimal sides and gave clean energy. Like ECA a lot. However I try to avoid most stims these days.
 
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Albuterol or GW. Plain and simple. Clen and eca both destroy your heart.
 
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