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flexygrl

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Hi All,

Started CKD on Thursday @ 142.2.

Today I am down to 139.8. According to my Tanitta scale my BF has gone up 1.5%. I know that the weight loss is mostly water,but I am really concerned with the BF. Will this level out and eventually start coming down?
 
those scales are not accurate. i proved that by weighing myself and getting my bodyfat. then i drank 1 gallon of water.... was 8 lbs heavier and bodyfat dropped 5% give me a break!
 
flexygrl said:
Hi All,

Started CKD on Thursday @ 142.2.

Today I am down to 139.8. According to my Tanitta scale my BF has gone up 1.5%. I know that the weight loss is mostly water,but I am really concerned with the BF. Will this level out and eventually start coming down?

Ketosis (the basis for CKD) creates an imbalanced electrolyte environment, which, in itself, is the cause for the misreading by the Tanitta scale. It's a digital instrument that uses electricity (in laymans terms) to measure your BF; thus, if it's interrupted by an imbalance in the body - caused by Ketosis - it usually gives improper readings.

Solution: don't worry, unless you're eating 2000 calories a day, you shouldn't worry at all....

Mr.X
www.massmonsters.com
 
Mr. X,

Thanks so much for replying!! I feel like I'm talking to a celebrity. The CDK thing you created is great! The scale is finally moving after 2 months!!! I'll keep you all posted on a weekly basis, if that's okay. Thanks again.

J
 
Flexygirl-

Would you mind posting samples of what you eat on CKD?

I see some peoples food selections that dont seem to fit in CKD guidelines, or make a lick of sense.

Thanks
 
Here you go

Here it is. It's very crude. I had to put it together on the fly. I am using fitday and I am trying to get as close as possible to the numbers from Mr. X's CKD sheet.
 
Thanks Flexygirl.

One thingI wasnt able to get form your post was meal frequency.
How many meals per day are you taking?

Also someting I was wondering about....I say you had coffee on there. Havent I read somewhere that caffiene will mess with ketosis due to it altering insulin uptake or something?
 
Hi,

As far as meal frequency, I really don't know. I just eat when I'm hungry. I try to space out my meals the best I can but when I am working its difficult. I only just started it. I don't know about caffeine either. Mr.X said something about Diet Dr. Pepper, atleast I think that was him, and that has caffeine. Also, I got the cofee and cream thing from someone elses CKD post. Maybe Mr. X can clarify this for us?

J
 
One more thing...

I printed off your diet pages, could you list your training, such as what days you do cardio, legs, back and so on, So I can get a feel of how this part fits.

Also, how long do you find it takes you to hit ketosis?

Thanks for your replies.
 
Hi Vulgar,

Like I said, I just started on Thursday. Today is only day 3 for me. I am probably not your best source of info. If you go to MassMonsters and read the CKD manual, there is a whole bunch of info on training. I am not following that only because for one I can't wake up in the AM and do cardio. I have tried and I am just too tired. I have kept up my training as usual since Thursday. According to MR. X you are suppose to do a 2 day split. If I did this I would not be able to work out with my husband and I don't want to give that up. That's our quality time together.

Thurs Day 1-did shoulders. It was rough, but I made it through. 30 min cardio
Friday Day 2-Legs! Had a great WO. 30 min of cardio
Don't know what is planned for today.

I definetly notice a lack of strength and I am constantly tired, but I keep telling myself that it's only for 5 or so weeks and then I'll be okay.

The CKD worksheet Mr.X created is great. So is fitday.com. It's basically dummy proof. I already have my whole week planned.

I hope this helps you even if it's just a little.
 
Vulgar_Display_Of_Power said:

Also someting I was wondering about....I say you had coffee on there. Havent I read somewhere that caffiene will mess with ketosis due to it altering insulin uptake or something?

Coffee does no such thing....it's a myth that was started a while back by health freaks that didn't want people to drink coffee. The only thing I've seen in studies is that caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity but on a MINOR scale - nothing major at all. As Flexygrl pointed out about the Dr. Pepper, it's the carbonation and artificial sweeteners that kick you out of ketosis, not the caffeine part - not usually that is. As far as cream in coffee, as long as it's reasonably under 5g carbs, you'll be fine.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


Coffee does no such thing....it's a myth that was started a while back by health freaks that didn't want people to drink coffee. The only thing I've seen in studies is that caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity but on a MINOR scale - nothing major at all. As Flexygrl pointed out about the Dr. Pepper, it's the carbonation and artificial sweeteners that kick you out of ketosis, not the caffeine part - not usually that is. As far as cream in coffee, as long as it's reasonably under 5g carbs, you'll be fine.

Mr.X
I drink at least 2 cups every morning with heavy cream while on CKD and it has never kncked me out of ketosis. I also drink lots of iced tea. I couldn't do CKD without the coffie and tea!
 
Scarlett33 said:
I drink at least 2 cups every morning with heavy cream while on CKD and it has never kncked me out of ketosis. I also drink lots of iced tea. I couldn't do CKD without the coffie and tea!

Who doesn't like a good cup of Java ;)? I do....;)

Mr.X
 
Not to toot my own horn here, but I am the CKD MOD over at MassMonsterz.com. Any questions you might have about this diet and the training I will be glad to answer.



INTENSITY
 
Thank Iron,

Well. So far so good, I guess. I took my weight this morning and it is 140.2. So that's a 2 pound loss before my carb up. I was really tired this week and missed 2 cardio sessions. I also could not do the morning cardio sessions. i am planning to up my cardio this week and see if it makes a difference. I am just a little disapointed cause I was expected to see a greater loss. :(
 
Patience...

Honestly, I'd only weigh in about every 2 weeks, unless you're getting ready for a comp. 2 lbs/week is the max you want to lose, except for maybe the first week when you'll be dropping water due to the reduction in carbs.

I would also not use the Tanita - get a pair of inexpensive calipers, and just measure your skinfolds yourself. It will be much more reliable form of measuring diet results than the Tanita and the scale.
 
Hi JJ,

This is only my first week!!! I only lost 2 pounds. :bawling: I am trying to be patient. I thought weighing myself once a week would be okay, because I should be adjusting my weight anyway on Mr. X's worksheet, right?
 
It can be mentally detrimental to weigh yourself once/week - especially since you'll also be dealing with that feminine hormonal water weight gain every month. Most of this stuff was written with men in mind, who don't have to deal with that kind of stuff. I know when I weigh myself weekly, I get very annoyed during those hormonal weeks when my weight isn't changing. I've found if I monitor my skinfolds and appearance and stay off the scale, I get less frustrated on my diet.
 
JJFigure said:
It can be mentally detrimental to weigh yourself once/week - especially since you'll also be dealing with that feminine hormonal water weight gain every month. Most of this stuff was written with men in mind, who don't have to deal with that kind of stuff. I know when I weigh myself weekly, I get very annoyed during those hormonal weeks when my weight isn't changing. I've found if I monitor my skinfolds and appearance and stay off the scale, I get less frustrated on my diet.

JJ is correct, it was written w/ men in mind, so some female hormonal imbalance should be taken into account.

Mr.X
 
JJ And Mr. X,

You are right! I will only weigh myself every 2 weeks. I will however adjust my weight on the CKD WS as if I had lost 2 pounds, just to keep everything running smoothly. Thank you both, once again for the AWESOME support.

Flexy
 
I might suggest something a little different.

I would suggest that you weigh yourself everyday and log it into fitday. That way to have a solid history that you can compare to when you reach those hormonal weeks.

(Part of my job involves creating baselines and comparing results).

If you carb up on the weekends, then I would suggest you take the Friday morning results as your worksheet weight, as the early week can be somewhat misleading.



Lodid
 
Hi All,

Doing great so far!!! I am feeling so good now!! Still a bit tired, but okay! I skipped my carb up at the end of week 2 and I am in day 4 of week 3. I haven't weighed myself. I think I'm gonna weight 2 more weeks before weighing in. HG Penny(whatever is name is) recommened r-ala to me, and it really has helped. I had a piece of French toast on Sunday and nothing happened at all. I was still in Ketosis. Also my cravings have gone down substantially. Feeling really good and just wanted you all to know!!! I'll keep you posted on my progress.
 
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