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Circumcision vs Non circumcision?
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lol@yunguns having a taffy dick.
you decide for him, you dont get it done as an adult unless you have health complications (like TT)
when people convert to judaism and get it done they just get a small portion removed and not a full on circumsision, its painful as an adult.
i personally couldnt give afuck about foreskin, i dont know what im missing and i have plenty fun jerking off and busting after hour and a half jerk off sessons
you decide for him, you dont get it done as an adult unless you have health complications (like TT)
when people convert to judaism and get it done they just get a small portion removed and not a full on circumsision, its painful as an adult.
i personally couldnt give afuck about foreskin, i dont know what im missing and i have plenty fun jerking off and busting after hour and a half jerk off sessons
InquisitivePsyche
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SublimeZM said:
Lmao. I agree. My kids will have it done. It isn't as painful as a baby then as an adult and I don't even know if they do that. EEEK imagine..
i have never EVER wondered for even a second.youngguns said:
i simply just dont care, my dick works awsome and i cum and have fun with it. even if it did make sex/playing with it a little better its not like id really care.
besides, uncircumsized looks kinda gross imho
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heatherrae
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God, good question. I'm inclined to say that it is medically pointless. Also, why would anyone believe it isn't painful to the baby to have it done? Do you somehow think that babies can't feel that? However, Americans are very backward and the girls go "ewww...look" if they see something different. It's a silly custom. So, I guess the choice as a mom in America is whether to submit your child to a medically pointless and painful procedure or have people stigmatize him in some way about it.
GoldenDelicious
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circumcision is a stupid custom
stosstruppe
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GoldenDelicious said:
Especially the female variant.
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heatherrae
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I did a 75 page article on female genital mutilation in International Law when I was in law school. You wouldn't believe the horrors of what is done to some of these girls. In some case they get full clitorectomies. Some get their vaginas sewn shut. One girl that I wrote about had her vagina sewn together so tightly that menstrual fluids could not escape. When she hit puberty and started menstruating, she swelled up because the fluids were not being expelled. Her family thought she was pregnant, and her brothers and father beat her to death for her perceived indiscretions. Many are subjected to very unsafe and unsanitary conditions and die or nearly die from the ordeal.Stoßtruppe said:
That is a practice that needs to be stopped worldwide.
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heatherrae
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Article where? A reputable medical journal? Because all the research I have ever seen has pointed to the opposite conclusion. Thusfar, all I have read is that it makes no difference. One would think that having the glans covered when not hard would make it less susceptible to irritation and contamination.Razorguns said:
I think the reason that it looks better to us Americans is because we have become accostomed to seeing them circumsized. Really, shouldn't the body, in its unmutilated state, be more attractive to us?
1)Uncut looks disgusting.....
2) many men recieve infections later on in life for not becoming circumsized
3)I heard rumor that men hurt when they get hard being uncircumsized
4)more apt to get std being uncircumsized
I think circumsision is the best choice.
2) many men recieve infections later on in life for not becoming circumsized
3)I heard rumor that men hurt when they get hard being uncircumsized
4)more apt to get std being uncircumsized
I think circumsision is the best choice.
1) You are immature and a very childish person for thinking this.Angel said:
2)Proof? So god made us knowing we would all get infections?
3)I heard a rumour you are the dumbest person on a chat board in 2006-2007.
4)Either wear a condom, or don't fuck dirty chicks SO YOU DONT HAVE TO MUTILATE A BABY BOY.
Grow the fuck up youngcom..I can provide proof of all of the fucking statements that I just made..If you really want to fuck with me I can make you look 10 times stupider than you make yourself look as it is....
U want proof fuckface? Just let me know, I will support my statements unlike others around here..then you can have the fucking right to either call me stupid and immature because I am fuckin correct and you dont like it, or you can apolojize, better yet your little 18 year old ass can fuck off, kiss my ass, and get the hell off the internet and get a life!!!! Your fucking choice dickface
U want proof fuckface? Just let me know, I will support my statements unlike others around here..then you can have the fucking right to either call me stupid and immature because I am fuckin correct and you dont like it, or you can apolojize, better yet your little 18 year old ass can fuck off, kiss my ass, and get the hell off the internet and get a life!!!! Your fucking choice dickface
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heatherrae
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Angel said:
1. The way it looks I guess is personal opinion, but I think we are just used to seeing them cut.
2. Actually, everything I've read points to the opposite being true. Having the glans covered protects it.
3. There is a condition where the skin or frenulum is too tight, but this is by far the exception and not the norm. In these men, they can have the problem corrected later.
4. From what I have read there is no correlation to circumcision or the lack thereof to contracting STD's.
I would feel bad sending my little boy to be cut with no anaesthesia. From what I have seen, they just cut them with no pain relief. That is barbaric. I would hate that to be one of his first experiences on earth -mommy handing him over to some guy who holds him down and cuts a body part off with a scalpel! EEECCCKKKKK!
It just freaks me out!
wait let me add this to the links on page 2..I found this one to be a bit of importance to woman
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news/8525697700573E1885256B980048A15B
*As for it being ugly, that is my point of view..Maybe because I have seen more cut than non cut, but I find them nasty when un cut....
So there you have it
Aids
Hiv
Std's
Penile cancer
Urinary tract infections
bacterial growth
my opinion of it not looking as nice as a cut one...
Did I miss anything here?
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news/8525697700573E1885256B980048A15B
*As for it being ugly, that is my point of view..Maybe because I have seen more cut than non cut, but I find them nasty when un cut....
So there you have it
Aids
Hiv
Std's
Penile cancer
Urinary tract infections
bacterial growth
my opinion of it not looking as nice as a cut one...
Did I miss anything here?
Circumcision, the surgical procedure that removes the penis foreskin, is currently a very hot topic. While it has long been a traditional practice in the United States to circumcise male babies, certain religions and cultures have strong beliefs against infant circumcision. The medical profession, recognizing that parents may have strong feelings, generally leaves this decision up to mom and dad. However, the American Academy of Pediatrics recently stated, “After looking at almost 40 years of research on the benefits and risks of circumcision, the AAP concluded that we can not recommend a policy of routine newborn circumcision.”
LOL
LOL
Daisy_
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This is hilarious. Youngguns why do you care so much really? Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. Obviously the men with no toque will want it circumsized and obviously they men with stink dink, I mean a toque will be against it. You will never win. This is just going to be an on going war.
Really I was kidding about the stink dink. It doesn't stink does it?
Really I was kidding about the stink dink. It doesn't stink does it?
heavy_duty
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just tell him to peel his cap back before going into the shower. no biggie.
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needtogetaas
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this thread just shows every one that lestat and yg are the same person thats all it dose.
needtogetaas
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best post ever on the subject....Razorguns said:
Kinda funny looking (apologies to all natural men, sorry, seriously) No offense intended but I wouldn't know what the hell to do if I was confronted with an uncut one (luckily, it ain't gonna happen). Honestly, only one I saw IRL was my son's when he was born (I told husband circumcision was up to him if it was a boy, and he has no say in when ear piercings took place if it was a girl. I did not feel qualified to make that decision as I do not own that particular piece of equipment).Razorguns said:
InquisitivePsyche
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I hate to break it to you but an incircumsized dick does not "have a lot more feeling." People who are circumsized don't care and grew up with it. I think you uncircumsized ones are jealous because your dicks look a little different. Tee hee. (Again, I am just playin' with you - I really don't care).youngguns said:
My son's father was circumcised himself, whaddya think? How weird would it be for a little boy to grow up with a penis that isn't like his father's or any other male he sees? C'mon.youngguns said:
Look, dear, I've been personally involved with 9 penises in my lifetime (counting my son, hey, who do you think changed the diapers!) and I told you which one, and it was ONLY one, was untrimmed.
And I'm not Jewish, and only two of the men in question were Jewish.
InquisitivePsyche
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LOL you made me laugh. Hehe. "I've been personally involved with 9 penises."musclemom said:
InquisitivePsyche
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Who realized that this thread stemmed from the Blondes or Brunettes thread?
Yeah - I know.
Weird.
Yeah - I know.
Weird.
Daisy_ said:
It can stink a bit, but not nearly as much as the female equipment. Takes a lot less maintenance than a girl's stuff too. I don't get all the foreskin fear that gringos seem to suffer from. Anyone who takes regular care of themselves is gonna be okay down there. And anyone who is gross enough to have stinky privates, well they're gonna be nasty in other ways that will scare you off long before you get in their pants.
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Circumcision recommended to fight HIV
Staff and agencies
30 March, 2007
By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Wed Mar 28, 5:54 PM ET
GENEVA - U.N. health agencies recommended Wednesday that heterosexual men undergo circumcision because of "compelling" evidence that it can reduce their chances of contracting HIV by up to 60 percent.
But World Health Organization and UNAIDS experts said men need to be aware that circumcision is only partial protection against the virus and must be used with other measures.
Studies suggest 5.7 million new cases of HIV infection and 3 million deaths over 20 years could be prevented by male circumcision in sub-Saharan Africa, the agencies said.
Otherwise, they could develop a false sense of security and engage in high-risk behaviors that could undermine the partial protection provided by male circumcision, the agencies said.
The recommendations were based on a meeting earlier this month in Montreux, Switzerland, where experts discussed three trials — in Kenya, Uganda and South Africa — that produced "strong evidence" of the risk reduction resulting from heterosexual male circumcision.
The agencies said much depends on the situation in a given country, and little general benefit will result in countries where the HIV epidemic is concentrated among sex workers, injecting drug users or men who have sex with men.
"It was therefore recommended that countries with high prevalence, generalized heterosexual HIV epidemics that currently have low rates of male circumcision consider urgently scaling up access to male circumcision services," the agencies said.
"The recommendations represent a significant step forward in HIV prevention," said Dr. Kevin De Cock, director of WHO‘s HIV/ AIDS department. "Countries with high rates of heterosexual HIV infection and low rates of male circumcision now have an additional intervention which can reduce the risk of HIV infection in heterosexual men."
Although the rate of circumcision varies considerably from country to country, globally an estimated 665 million men, or 30 percent of men in the world, are circumcised, the statement said.
Priority should be given to providing circumcision to age groups at highest risk of acquiring HIV because it will have the most immediate impact on the disease. But, it said, circumcising younger males also will have a public health impact over the longer term.
It gave no estimate how much providing the service would cost, but said more money would be needed, but that donors should regard it as "an important, evidence-based intervention."
Staff and agencies
30 March, 2007
By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Wed Mar 28, 5:54 PM ET
GENEVA - U.N. health agencies recommended Wednesday that heterosexual men undergo circumcision because of "compelling" evidence that it can reduce their chances of contracting HIV by up to 60 percent.
But World Health Organization and UNAIDS experts said men need to be aware that circumcision is only partial protection against the virus and must be used with other measures.
Studies suggest 5.7 million new cases of HIV infection and 3 million deaths over 20 years could be prevented by male circumcision in sub-Saharan Africa, the agencies said.
Otherwise, they could develop a false sense of security and engage in high-risk behaviors that could undermine the partial protection provided by male circumcision, the agencies said.
The recommendations were based on a meeting earlier this month in Montreux, Switzerland, where experts discussed three trials — in Kenya, Uganda and South Africa — that produced "strong evidence" of the risk reduction resulting from heterosexual male circumcision.
The agencies said much depends on the situation in a given country, and little general benefit will result in countries where the HIV epidemic is concentrated among sex workers, injecting drug users or men who have sex with men.
"It was therefore recommended that countries with high prevalence, generalized heterosexual HIV epidemics that currently have low rates of male circumcision consider urgently scaling up access to male circumcision services," the agencies said.
"The recommendations represent a significant step forward in HIV prevention," said Dr. Kevin De Cock, director of WHO‘s HIV/ AIDS department. "Countries with high rates of heterosexual HIV infection and low rates of male circumcision now have an additional intervention which can reduce the risk of HIV infection in heterosexual men."
Although the rate of circumcision varies considerably from country to country, globally an estimated 665 million men, or 30 percent of men in the world, are circumcised, the statement said.
Priority should be given to providing circumcision to age groups at highest risk of acquiring HIV because it will have the most immediate impact on the disease. But, it said, circumcising younger males also will have a public health impact over the longer term.
It gave no estimate how much providing the service would cost, but said more money would be needed, but that donors should regard it as "an important, evidence-based intervention."
musclemom said:
So if his dad lost a limb in the war, how weird would it be for a little boy to grow up with four intact limbs?
Having been the little boy whose peepee was different, it's no big deal. It's no weirder than when dad has hairy things between his legs and sonny doesn't. Or if dad has black hair and brown eyes and sonny has brown hair and blue eyes. Adults and children are different.
People will go to such great lengths to rationalize this stupid barbaric ritual.
heavy_duty
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God is not happy with the mothers who cut their son's cocks!
God and Jesus were uncut, it's in the bible.
God and Jesus were uncut, it's in the bible.
InquisitivePsyche
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Yeah - having mulitple wives is also in the Bible.heavy_duty said:
I have a problem with people who read the Bible and take it literally. Actually, Abraham circumsized his son as a covenant to God (God's orders).
People, don't take the Hebrew Bible literally.
InquisitivePsyche
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Actually - Jesus was a Jew and back during his time Circumcision was practiced so he probably was circumsized because all male Jews were. And God.. we don't even know if God is in human form so how can you say he was? lol.heavy_duty said:
jh1
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I didn't read any of this...
But this thread has been posted so many times...
My personal conclusion is that yes it is a very very very very very silly thing to do to something that there is nothing wrong with from the get go, it's natural -it's healthy, etc.. and it's based on goofy relgious bullshit...
That's being said... sex, social status, acceptance, etc are very important in real life. If I had a son, I would circumsize him simply because I wouldn't want him to be in a situation where he is ridiculed or shuned by some girl because his dick was considered 'odd'...
How awefull... but it's reality.
But this thread has been posted so many times...
My personal conclusion is that yes it is a very very very very very silly thing to do to something that there is nothing wrong with from the get go, it's natural -it's healthy, etc.. and it's based on goofy relgious bullshit...
That's being said... sex, social status, acceptance, etc are very important in real life. If I had a son, I would circumsize him simply because I wouldn't want him to be in a situation where he is ridiculed or shuned by some girl because his dick was considered 'odd'...
How awefull... but it's reality.
InquisitivePsyche
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I totally see your point. I disagree. That "religious bullshit," is important to some people. Religions do all sorts of things you know? And the foreskin is much different when a baby is new born then when he is older. The pain is very quick. I remember my mother telling me that my brother barely even cried. The rabbi must have done a good job. LOL. It was so quick.jh1 said:
heavy_duty
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NO they both were NOT, I read is somewhere.
I think it was Cosmo
I think it was Cosmo
InquisitivePsyche said:
InquisitivePsyche
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The truth is - we will never know. All writings that started took place nearly 50-60 yrs AFTER jesus died. Many people need to take religious courses because some of it is pure logic (tying times/writings together). I have taken some but I'm not near being one of those scholars. To me, Jesus was a jew and jews DEFINITELY followed VERY strict laws back in his time.heavy_duty said:NO they both were NOT, I read is somewhere.
I think it was Cosmo
Cosmo - LOL! What magazines are good today? I don't really read any.
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heatherrae
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lol @ god being circumsized. Who would have circumsized god?
jh1 said:
Circumcision rates in the US are down in the 60% range of newborn boys now. These numbers are somewhat skewed by Asian and Hispanic immigrants, but not that much. So a boy today with an intact unit will have plenty of intact peers, so he won't be the only doggie dick in Jr. High gym class, and girls will all have seen them before.
swole
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LMFAO @ everyone who has a taffy dick!!!!
BWHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
i don't care what any of you guys say, girls love my well kept cock in all it's circumsized glory
no girl will ever call an uncircumsized cock nice, ever. shit's fucking gross and it harbors bacteria
must be lots of fun for chicks to pull the skin back and suck on all that dick cheese
BWHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
i don't care what any of you guys say, girls love my well kept cock in all it's circumsized glory
no girl will ever call an uncircumsized cock nice, ever. shit's fucking gross and it harbors bacteria
must be lots of fun for chicks to pull the skin back and suck on all that dick cheese
InquisitivePsyche
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I agree. I think it isn't as clean to have an uncircumsized wee wee. I remember a good family friend had a little boy and she didn't circumsize him and I took care of him and had to change his diaper and all that and clean him and well, let's just say that I'd rather have circumsizeds boys.swole said:
heavy_duty
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If it hurts now imagine how much it hurt JC.
InquisitivePsyche said:
At that age, if you were doing anything to try to clean under his foreskin, you were abusing the child. It's not retractible then, and it should be left the hell alone. From the perspective of a caregiver, all you should have noticed was that his glans was covered by a tube of skin.
That's the problem with American foreskin-ignorance, there's no one who can tell you what sort of maintenance is required for the standard equipment because no one has any experience. Most of the reported "problems" with toddlers' foreskins are caused by their mommies who insist on trying to pull it back and clean it.
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heavy_duty
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LOST of people in this thread have no idea what they're talking about but far be it from me to want to educate them. I just don't care that much.
But yes there is some profound ignorance here.
But yes there is some profound ignorance here.
InquisitivePsyche
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Hold on - I never said that I had to pull it back and clean it. When I was talking about cleaning him I was talking about changing his diaper in general, but I noticed that there was the foreskin on him which I didn't touch because I wasn't certain about. Then I asked about it and I was told that down the road when he was older, it would be different keeping it clean verses a non circumsized one. Many little boys who aren't showed how to clean the foreskin develop hygiene issues because it can get infected much easier. Especially if it isn't cleaned.Mr. dB said:
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