chuck taylors

[OreoPL]

hey i just got some chuck taylors after reading many times they are the best shoes for squatting. i am gonna test them out next week. i have a question though, are they good for deadlifts to or would you guys reccomend something else. on my squats and deadlifts my knees have a tendency to push towards each other. at the bottom of the squat and the begining of the dead. i usually wear cross trainers and i also noticed that i walk on the inside of my foot and i am flat footed. do u think these may be the problems or could it be a problem with a weak muscle. i hope the shoes help from what people like b fold have said i think they will.

 

[louden_swain]

If your knees are turning inward, this is an indication of a deficiency of strength in the hips.

I have battled this problem when I get to the heavier weights.

There are several exercises that you can use to increase hip strength, such as:

Wide stance squats
Hip (adduction and abduction)
box squats

As far as shoes are concerned, I don't think this would have any influence on your knees turning inward. I personally like a shoe that has a strong sole and will provide adequate ankle support.

Good luck!

 

[Fatty4You]

I still don't understand what shoes have to do with squating. Most people who i have asked, they just give me some lameass explanation like "Well, if you ever squated with good shoes, you would know." I can understand wanting a solid sole for support, but other than that, i just understand the need for special shoes. I mean its not like you angles are at wierd angles, or you are standing on rocky, uneven ground.... so what gives, how can shoes help?

-Fatty

 

[zackdarnell]

Yep, Chucks are good for deadlifting, too.

 

[b fold the truth]

I still don't understand what shoes have to do with squating. Most people who i have asked, they just give me some lameass explanation like "Well, if you ever squated with good shoes, you would know." I can understand wanting a solid sole for support, but other than that, i just understand the need for special shoes. I mean its not like you angles are at wierd angles, or you are standing on rocky, uneven ground.... so what gives, how can shoes help?

-Fatty

There is a reason why the best squatters and deadlifters wear the shoes that they do...because they HELP them.

Chucks are great for deadlifting!!!!...and they are wonderful for wide stanced squats and box squats.

They look cool too.

B True

 

[skaman607]

I still don't understand what shoes have to do with squating. Most people who i have asked, they just give me some lameass explanation like "Well, if you ever squated with good shoes, you would know." I can understand wanting a solid sole for support, but other than that, i just understand the need for special shoes. I mean its not like you angles are at wierd angles, or you are standing on rocky, uneven ground.... so what gives, how can shoes help?

-Fatty

The flat soles that Chucks have enable you to "split the floor" therefore keeping your knees apart from one another, and helping you coming out of the hole.

 

[OreoPL]

thanks for the replys but is hip stregnth the only thing that can cause your knees to come in. i always walk on the inside of my foot so i thought that could be adding to my inward flex. most people walk on the outside but i walk on the inside. and if hips are the only pproblem what are some other exercises other than these. and what is hip adduction and abduction?

Wide stance squats
Hip (adduction and abduction)
box squats

 

[edgecrusher]

The fact that your knees come in on a squat, is normally indicitive of a weak vastus medialus muscle as well. (The knee can not stabilize under a load, so it drifts in.) As far as the Chuck T's go, they look cool but I've seen a couple people role their ankles in them. So, I don't have total faith in them as of yet.

 

[louden_swain]

I personally use NIKE cross-trainers. . . . . bad thing is I blew out the air soles when squatting, leg pressing, and deadlifting with heavy weights.

Now when I walk, you can hear a squeaky sound.

I like NIKE shoes because they are really comfortable and provide adequat support.

 

[OreoPL]

thanks for the replys but is hip stregnth the only thing that can cause your knees to come in. i always walk on the inside of my foot so i thought that could be adding to my inward flex. most people walk on the outside but i walk on the inside. and if hips are the only pproblem what are some other exercises other than these. and what is hip adduction and abduction? oh yeah and they do look cool i had them when i was a kid.(just a few years ago)

Wide stance squats
Hip (adduction and abduction)
box squats

 

[Fatty4You]

There is a reason why the best squatters and deadlifters wear the shoes that they do...because they HELP them.

Chucks are great for deadlifting!!!!...and they are wonderful for wide stanced squats and box squats.

B, I appreciate that great lifters wear them; however, this really doesn't give me any insight as to why they help? Association is not the same thing as explaination. I don't mean to press the issue, but i am just curious. I am trying to learn about all aspects of fitness.
thanks,

-Fatty

 

[2Shy]

Oreo, I have regular walking shoes and wondered the same thing. Then The Asylum (Spatts, Hannibal & Project) helped me with my box squat form and I could tell that flat soles would help me spread the floor better. My feet tended to roll in the shoes I currently use.

I'm getting me a pair of Chucks. I guess that would make me Up Chuck? *ducks*

 

[Fatty4You]

i always walk on the inside of my foot so i thought that could be adding to my inward flex. most people walk on the outside but i walk on the inside.

I am flat footed and my feet are about as flat as roadkill. My knees used to go in on squats but i found that, continued practice on squats as well as abduction and adduction helped.

Hip Adduction is that machine where you sit down and squeeze your thighs together [sometimes called the rape machine in meat-head football circles]. Hip Abduction is the just the opposite - you sit down and forcefully spread your legs.

You can also so them standing with the cable pully and ankle strap... but i have never tried them that way.

Incidentally, i am flat footed, but i find i walk more on the outside of my foot. I feel that the arch in my shoe forces my foot to be slightly inverted, which causes me to walk on my outer edge. You can tell by the wear and tear patterns on the sole of your shoe. I prefer walking barefoot.

-Fatty

 

[OreoPL]

thanks for info fatty i will look into adding those into my routine. i am aslo thinking of going to a wider stance on squats and deads. to see if that helps. i have been practicing in my room today and i noticed that the wider stance really burns the inside of my thigh. i will have to see what happens when i put some real weight on the bar tomorrow during deads. i know u want a real explination for the shoes but i was paying attention to myself while practicing and i noticed taht i wasnt rolling to the inside with the chucks. i practiced with both kinds of shoes.

 

[zackdarnell]

B, I appreciate that great lifters wear them; however, this really doesn't give me any insight as to why they help? Association is not the same thing as explaination. I don't mean to press the issue, but i am just curious. I am trying to learn about all aspects of fitness.
thanks,

-Fatty

They have a flat sole, are more stable, the bottoms dont compress under heavy weight as much as other shoes, and they allow you to better spread the floor.

 

[Fatty4You]

They have a flat sole, are more stable, the bottoms dont compress under heavy weight as much as other shoes, and they allow you to better spread the floor.

I see... ok, now that makes sense. But what does "spread the floor" mean? Does that have to do with the width of the stance?

-Fatty

 

[b fold the truth]

As far as the Chuck T's go, they look cool but I've seen a couple people role their ankles in them. So, I don't have total faith in them as of yet.

When I wear my Chucks...I can't get my ankles to roll with them. When I spread the floor and squat...I TRY to get them to roll over...and they just wont.

B True

 

[b fold the truth]

I see... ok, now that makes sense. But what does "spread the floor" mean? Does that have to do with the width of the stance?

-Fatty

When you squat...you should focus on trying to use your feet/shoes to rip a hole in the carpet between your feet. This makes you remember to sit back and use your hips to squat... One really needs Chucks to do this.

B True

 

[spatts]

Chucks. Monochrome. Black.

I have to admit, that I don't feel like I need Chucks to "spread the floor," but they are very advantageous for being able to sit back and recruit the posterior chain....with the heel higher than the toe (like most shoes) that's very hard to do, and a person can end up leaning too far forward, or just flat out recruiting weaker muscles = lifting less.

 

[Fatty4You]

When you squat...you should focus on trying to use your feet/shoes to rip a hole in the carpet between your feet. This makes you remember to sit back and use your hips to squat... One really needs Chucks to do this.

Interesting, i'll have to try this tomarrow.

-Fatty

 

[argent]

I am in love with Chucks for squatting, but dislike them for deadlifts simply because the sole's thickness. It isn't more than 1/2", but that could mean an extra 20-30 lbs. I go with the wrestling shoes for deads.

 

[edgecrusher]

thanks for the replys but is hip stregnth the only thing that can cause your knees to come in. i always walk on the inside of my foot so i thought that could be adding to my inward flex. most people walk on the outside but i walk on the inside. and if hips are the only pproblem what are some other exercises other than these. and what is hip adduction and abduction? oh yeah and they do look cool i had them when i was a kid.(just a few years ago)

Wide stance squats
Hip (adduction and abduction)
box squats

AS I said, weak VMO's can also lead to your knees coming together. It is rather easy to strengthen them, just do unilateral movements, ie lunges, split squats, and make sure you go deep on the movements.

 

[gmanlax7]

I rock an old school pair of orange and white nike flights and velcro them fucker's up REAAAAAAAAAL TIGHT. beautiful flat soles. good for nothing but lifting, i played basketball in them and my feet were sore for days