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genesis

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Ok, I just started my cycle of eq at 400mgs every week and winstrol at 50mgs ED. Along with some femara ED.. I've been playing with the dosages a bit.. never hitting 2.5mgs just yet.. seeing how much my body needs to keep the bloat and everything down.. at first I was doing about 1mg Ed or so.. but I've upped it recently at my levels of EQ should be reaching their full soon as I was frontloading.

Ok, now I just got my blood work done by a cholesterol doctor.. my cholesterol ratios are absolutely horrible, I have a count of 7 hdl to about 190 ldl. Thats ridiculous.. the doctor I saw is currently talking to my dads doctor as he has high cholesterol as well.. but he does not run cycles or anything like that.. he just as a poor diet. What should I expect to hear from them? Apparently I will be seeing a dietician.

What kind of supplements could I put myself on in the mean time to help myself? Or maybe I should wait for the doctor and let him advise me?



Thanks in advance everyone.
 
I just found out yesterday mine is 279. 58 HDL and 188LDL. My doc actually recommended read yeast rice and niacin along with diet and excercise of course. He wants to test again in 2 months. I was thinking about using the at home cholesterol tests you can buy at walgreens. Anyone know if these tests are accurate?
 
Genesis said:
Ok, I just started my cycle of eq at 400mgs every week and winstrol at 50mgs ED. Along with some femara ED.. I've been playing with the dosages a bit.. never hitting 2.5mgs just yet.. seeing how much my body needs to keep the bloat and everything down.. at first I was doing about 1mg Ed or so.. but I've upped it recently at my levels of EQ should be reaching their full soon as I was frontloading.

Ok, now I just got my blood work done by a cholesterol doctor.. my cholesterol ratios are absolutely horrible, I have a count of 7 hdl to about 190 ldl. Thats ridiculous.. the doctor I saw is currently talking to my dads doctor as he has high cholesterol as well.. but he does not run cycles or anything like that.. he just as a poor diet. What should I expect to hear from them? Apparently I will be seeing a dietician.

What kind of supplements could I put myself on in the mean time to help myself? Or maybe I should wait for the doctor and let him advise me?



Thanks in advance everyone.

Switch to everything injectable, and chose one that are least liver toxic.
I guess you had your liver enzymes checked. If not, get it done.
If your liver is OK, then Lipitor would be a good choice. Diet is not going to do much. You are already exercising.
As you are exercising, your CK might be already high. That is indicator of muscle damage.
The main possible dangerous side effects are muscle and liver damage from Lipitor.
It can be monitored by a monthly liver function test and CK level.

Or You can accept bad cholestrol for a few weeks.
 
Genesis said:
Ok, I just started my cycle of eq at 400mgs every week and winstrol at 50mgs ED. Along with some femara ED.. I've been playing with the dosages a bit.. never hitting 2.5mgs just yet.. seeing how much my body needs to keep the bloat and everything down.. at first I was doing about 1mg Ed or so.. but I've upped it recently at my levels of EQ should be reaching their full soon as I was frontloading.

Ok, now I just got my blood work done by a cholesterol doctor.. my cholesterol ratios are absolutely horrible, I have a count of 7 hdl to about 190 ldl. Thats ridiculous.. the doctor I saw is currently talking to my dads doctor as he has high cholesterol as well.. but he does not run cycles or anything like that.. he just as a poor diet. What should I expect to hear from them? Apparently I will be seeing a dietician.

What kind of supplements could I put myself on in the mean time to help myself? Or maybe I should wait for the doctor and let him advise me?



Thanks in advance everyone.


There are studies that show Niacin will boot your HDL. Also, many doctors recommend cardio...I don't know what that does to increase HDL but they suggest it. The LDL....well that is genetic and some dietary. Try to reduce any foods that are associated with increased in LDL...you know what they are. The doctor will probably give you the same shit I gave you and he/she may put you on something to reduce the LDL so your HDL/LDL ratio is not so fooked. My doc just told me about Niacin and cardio....I was lucky in that my LDL was lower than 70 so my HDL/LDL ratio was in the acceptable range.

Oh, Join Life Extensions!!! They are full of information about shit like that.
Good luck.
 
firebolt said:
I just found out yesterday mine is 279. 58 HDL and 188LDL. My doc actually recommended read yeast rice and niacin along with diet and excercise of course. He wants to test again in 2 months. I was thinking about using the at home cholesterol tests you can buy at walgreens. Anyone know if these tests are accurate?

Niacin is not a good choice because its main effect is on HDL, and your HDL is already better than average (average for men: 45). It also had high side effects (flushing, stomach/intestine problems).
You need to decrease LDL. For high HDL, Statins are best choice.
Your LDL needs to get below 130. Diet and exercise is not going to do that job. But giving it 2 months is not that bad an idea.
 
What would be the best thing to boost my hdl levels? Cause I mean comeon I got single digits on my hdl right now.. thats horrible.
 
Genesis said:
Ok, I just started my cycle of eq at 400mgs every week and winstrol at 50mgs ED. Along with some femara ED.. ... hdl 7....

the doctor I saw is currently talking to my dads doctor as he has high cholesterol as well.. but he does not run cycles or anything like that.. he just as a poor diet. What should I expect to hear from them?


what should you expect to hear from them? if you're under 21 you're gonna hear "YOU"RE SO GROUNDED". they'll eventually figure out you're juicing . thats about the only way to get down that low on hdl.

1-TU is still legal, and it fucks up hdl also so just tell them you been using 1-TU (or 1-AD or any of the 1 test prohormone products).
(they wouldnt get you down that low, but the docs won't know that and they'll buy it- especially if you tell them the 1-tu doesnt aromatize).
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the winny and the femera are trashing your hdl. why u using femera, you don't have anything in your cycle that aromatizes at a high rate? get rid of it or titrate down to minimum effective dose if you can.

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search on cholesterol, hdl, policosanol, niacin, you'll find a ton of info here on raising hdl.

good luck
 
dogoftheday said:
Niacin is not a good choice because its main effect is on HDL, and your HDL is already better than average (average for men: 45). It also had high side effects (flushing, stomach/intestine problems).
You need to decrease LDL. For high HDL, Statins are best choice.
Your LDL needs to get below 130. Diet and exercise is not going to do that job. But giving it 2 months is not that bad an idea.


I completely disagree, take the niacin. Its more the ratio of HDL to LDL that one needs to be concerned with rather than the actual values - unless they are completely jacked. Side effects are overrated, at a gram a day split up into two 500mg doses throughout the day I saw absolutely no side effects.

Diet will do you well, significantly increase fiber intake. Nolvadex post cycle will also help increase HDL values.

If you're that concerned, drop the Winny-thats whats messing up your cholesterol values.
 
UA_Iron said:
I completely disagree, take the niacin. Its more the ratio of HDL to LDL that one needs to be concerned with rather than the actual values - unless they are completely jacked. Side effects are overrated, at a gram a day split up into two 500mg doses throughout the day I saw absolutely no side effects.

Diet will do you well, significantly increase fiber intake. Nolvadex post cycle will also help increase HDL values.

If you're that concerned, drop the Winny-thats whats messing up your cholesterol values.


what were the before & after on your hdl with the niacin? and were you (cycling?)
 
Dbol, femara, test prop

HDL on cycle: 17
HDL 30 days later: 48

I stopped cycling after I got my initial bloodwork back and started PCT immediately with 40mg nolva ed. Also was doing ~1g niacin (doses were erratic), Flax Oil, Olive Oil, and a high fiber diet. I think I was eating under maintenance level calories too.

Of course other factors may have come into play, I am not genetically predisposed to bad cholesterol.
 
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