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thought everybody would be interested in this major bust , feds flew all the way to Thailand to make arrest http://www.channel3000.com/news/4149487/detail.html
China Man Busted along with Thai source
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canadianhitman
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That's just lovely....there's a crack dealer on every second street corner in most major U.S. cities, but the priority is to go all the way to Thailand for a steroid source.
2lunatics_ina_rubber_room
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Absolutely pathetic. Every fucking time the republicans get more than four years they crack down on AAS and everything else they think they need to proctect us from ? I distincntly remember the last Bush was a pain in the ass also !
the only Bush my wife trusts is her own !
the only Bush my wife trusts is her own !
WannaImpress
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Kenneth China from China? Why does that sound familiar?
Paulo
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canadianhitman said:
Yeah, but crack dealers...
One, serve a purpose by helping to keep the destitute ghetto folk in their place
and
Two, Crack dealers usually have lots of guns and stuff, so, if you were a pussy-ass, inferiority wrought DEA agent, who would you rather go after?
"Btw Paulo, tell us how you really feel...."
NYBodyguard
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most people dont know how all this shit started but let me let you in on what got some big politicians angry about youth and steroids.
In January of 2003 a big name politician came home to find his wife in bed with another man, and yup you guessed it the man was all nice and muscular, out of fear of muscular men stealing the wives of fat fucks they decided lets rid the world of steroids.
So there ya have it
In January of 2003 a big name politician came home to find his wife in bed with another man, and yup you guessed it the man was all nice and muscular, out of fear of muscular men stealing the wives of fat fucks they decided lets rid the world of steroids.
So there ya have it
_Yossarian_
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WannaImpress said:
lol, he was one of the first powder sources I came across. Also hav=d those 50mg anavar tabs whcih no one seemed to like.
javaguru
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A lot of people didn't realize the bill banning prohormones also included additional targetted money for enforcement and anti-steroid propaganda campaigns. I warned people on this board when they made comments along the lines of, "f&%k prohormones, I'm glad they're gonna be gone cause I use the real thing.." Now they have the money to fly first class to Asia for busts.....
slat1
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2lunatics_ina_rubber_room said:
True it sucks... but lets keep the facts strait. The entire investigation into steriods and clamping down on the pro's and BALCO started in 1997. During the Clinton Administration. Democrat or Republican... they will grasp onto what ever they can to seem like they are working in the publics interest... I believe in the article above they positioned it as saving our children. Good parenting saves our children... not a government that takes choicemaking out of your hands!
Now how can agents go into China and arrest a man to be charged with a crime for a state he never set foot in?
Also, this shit in Thailand is legal isn't it? That would be like Egyptian agents flying here and arresting someone for sending creatine to their country. (creatine is illegal in Egypt).
Also, this shit in Thailand is legal isn't it? That would be like Egyptian agents flying here and arresting someone for sending creatine to their country. (creatine is illegal in Egypt).
WannaImpress
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AAP said:
AAP, this exactly who I was thinking about. I'm sure you meant C & K though. From my understanding he was still running strong about 2 weeks ago and is on Vacation for Chinese New Years. Confirmation anyone?
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satchboogie
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i dont believe this article..
totally impossible for feds to bust in a foreign country.
what charges did they drop on him anyhow??
this spells bogus!
totally impossible for feds to bust in a foreign country.
what charges did they drop on him anyhow??
this spells bogus!
They can only go to another country if there is an extradition treaty, or the other country is voluntarily cooperating, like Pakistan is cooperating with USA against Al-Qaeda. US Agents are present during raids as observers.
US Agents can only be present as advisors. They don't have any law enforcement authority outside USA.
If it is a US Citizen that is wanted, the other country may deport him back to US.
If there is an extradition treaty, the other country may handover the wanted person on extradition requests (like Colombia does with drug dealers).
US Agents can only be present as advisors. They don't have any law enforcement authority outside USA.
If it is a US Citizen that is wanted, the other country may deport him back to US.
If there is an extradition treaty, the other country may handover the wanted person on extradition requests (like Colombia does with drug dealers).
wnaskor
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Dont believe this..If we can just go into a country and do this then something is terribly wrong. Hell, the United Nations wouldnt do this as a whole.Also, if we can do something like that, why wouldnt we just go in and take Saddam back here and take him to court here, rather than let his own people do it.
swordfish151
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yeah that doesnt make sence, i mean why would feds go out to thialand to bust a source when the source has never set foot in the US...but lets not forget Panama and Noriega... but in that case Noriega was a big time drug smuggler.......where have our priorities gone?
If the crime was not committed on US soil, any other country would not handover its own citizen to US.
But if someone smuggles illegal drugs to USA, it is violation of US law. Person can be indicted in USA, and extradited to USA from overseas. But only if there is an extradition treaty.
European union countries and Mexico do not extradite anyone charged with murder to USA unless death penalty is taken off the table. They have abolished death penalty.
But if someone smuggles illegal drugs to USA, it is violation of US law. Person can be indicted in USA, and extradited to USA from overseas. But only if there is an extradition treaty.
European union countries and Mexico do not extradite anyone charged with murder to USA unless death penalty is taken off the table. They have abolished death penalty.
2lunatics_ina_rubber_room
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slat1 said:
Good point, bro !!
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satchboogie
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first off, extradition for the 'crime' of exporting medicines is impossible!
i believe extradition must be justified by a violent crimes, or serious fraud.
i believe extradition must be justified by a violent crimes, or serious fraud.
anthony518
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That really sucks, I was just getting ready to order from him, j/k. That does suck, why waste all that time and money on traveling around the world. There are things in this country they need to fix first.
_Yossarian_
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swordfish151 said:
yeah, lets not forget Ttokkyo either. DEA went way outside the US for that bust.
javaguru
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Smuggling is a violation of US law. There are also international accords signed between UN nations in regard to drug trafficing that is independent of extradiction treaties between nations. China and Thailand are both signatories to the UN convention on transnational organized crime. This allows for greater cooperation when dealing with organized crime, which entails three or more persons engaged in a continuing activity punishable by four or more years inprisonment.
"The United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime was adopted by the General Assembly at its Millennium meeting in November 2000. It will be opened for signature at a high-level conference in Palermo, Italy, in December 2000. It is the first legally binding UN instrument in the field of crime. It must be signed and ratified by 40 countries before it comes into force.
States party to the Convention would be required to establish in their domestic laws four criminal offences:
participation in an organized criminal group;
money laundering;
corruption; and
obstruction of justice.
The new instrument spells out how countries can improve cooperation on such matters as extradition, mutual legal assistance, transfer of proceedings and joint investigations. It contains provisions for victim and witness protection and shielding legal markets from infiltration by organized criminal groups. Parties to the treaty would also provide technical assistance to developing countries to help them take the necessary measures and upgrade their capacities for dealing with organized crime. "
"The United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime was adopted by the General Assembly at its Millennium meeting in November 2000. It will be opened for signature at a high-level conference in Palermo, Italy, in December 2000. It is the first legally binding UN instrument in the field of crime. It must be signed and ratified by 40 countries before it comes into force.
States party to the Convention would be required to establish in their domestic laws four criminal offences:
participation in an organized criminal group;
money laundering;
corruption; and
obstruction of justice.
The new instrument spells out how countries can improve cooperation on such matters as extradition, mutual legal assistance, transfer of proceedings and joint investigations. It contains provisions for victim and witness protection and shielding legal markets from infiltration by organized criminal groups. Parties to the treaty would also provide technical assistance to developing countries to help them take the necessary measures and upgrade their capacities for dealing with organized crime. "
JustJacked
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wnaskor said:
this is post 9/11 shit. do you think thailand really had a choice? they need the US. thailand is a small country with no money. China on the other hand couldnt give a fuck. there a comunist country and they have nukes. they dont like the americans because the americans try to police them. if the US fucked with China, then China would just go and buy all there imports from the UK. theyve done it before and the US needs there money. thailand on the other hand has nothing to offer them to bargain with so they have to do what the US says or they get fuck all. its all about the money.
Too much stuff sounded to fishy, we cant just walk into other coutries and arrest people. And i cant see the us gov. flying all the way there to arrest this man, and having the us deal with all of the politics that it would take to bust this man. Unless this guy supplies all of the us then i can buy into this for one second. i think it was meant to scare people.
JustJacked
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I guess you didnt hear what happend to Dennis James? he got arrested in Thailand for having a package sent to him that containd some pills. the DEA was supposedly 'tipped off' so the US had the Thailand authorities detain him. he spent 5 days in a bangkok jail. all for 17 pills that he didnt even touch. they thought it was steroids but supossedly it was ecstacy. they had him arrested for 17 pills! the US government is on a power trip. they just do shit like this to show people that they can. its a big scare tactic.
_Yossarian_
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poantrex said:
oh shit, that's s73? damn, that's old school (for me anyway)....
gearhead22
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They can extradite you from Thailand to the USA , as long as the punishment for the crime you committed is more than 1 year in prison . In Thailand the punishment for any offence is 1 year in prison , unless you offer a bribe.
wnaskor said:
satchboogie said:
AAP said:
Wake up fellas. The US has DEA offices in countries all over the world. If you don't think they can arrest a drug dealer in their own country you have a short memory. Where does Manuel Noriega live?
3 Jan 1990 Surrenders to American authorities from his refuge in the Papal Nuncio in Panama.
10 Jul 1992 Manuel Noriega is sentenced to 40 years without parole in a federal prison for eight counts of drug smuggling, conspiracy, and racketeering. In his statement, Noriega decries President George HW Bush for "causing the deaths of innocent people" during the 1989 Panama invasion.
The answer is the Dade County Jail in Florida.
JustJacked
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man, you people live in the US and you dont even know your laws! did you hear of the new law the bush administration just got passed? now police can have their dogs sniff your car for drugs or firearms without a warrant or any suspicion! so you smoke a joint in your car, get a "random" stop by police and go to jail! and the bush crew just proposed a bill to congress that would allow the US the right to sentence anyone to life in prison without a trial! they say its because of terrorists! and you doubt they can go to thailand to bag some crook? talk about violation of human rights.
concordsize
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ill believe that one when i see it. Just because bills leave entitlement does not mean they go into effect.
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KD DYNAMITE
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how do sources like eye pee stay in the game for so long? you would think he would have gotten busted by now! but i guess going into china is a different story since he has probablly never even been to the states
growthspurt
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gab9681 said:
Me too Brotha!!
glock40_1979
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They did say they could not get into China . That is probably why a few good sources are currently living there.
moralanimal
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Dam, Ken Chen!?!
newshipping
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and of course not extraditing a fellow chinaman is a world away from them protecting a non chinese source who sets up in china.
Lab_Wizard
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amazing just how little EF members know about the very laws they are breaking
i for one, value my freedom and weigh consequences vs. gains and then make an informative decision.
laws have changed drastically due to the internet...
...google is your friend
i for one, value my freedom and weigh consequences vs. gains and then make an informative decision.
laws have changed drastically due to the internet...
...google is your friend
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