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Yup I have it....
how long have you had it? i dont have full use of my right hand right (mostly thumb) now because of it. Did it develop gradually over time? I think it's because of using a mouse all day everyday for years. Did you ever have it looked at? I cant really do much lifting, can you?jenscats5 said:
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Smurfy said:
I haven't had it looked at no.........I noticed it first last ski season when I was carrying my skis - they're wide so my thumb extends more then usual to grip them and I noticed it sore at the end of the day......The mouse on my laptop is the flat-touch-screen variety and my thumb sticks out more to use it and that irritates it......
I just stretch it & consciously try to tuck it back under my hand so it's not irritated......
Doesn't bother me lifting as I rest the bar/DB on my palm more, but the grip on my right hand is weaker than my left......
yeah it is the same hand. the tendons in that area are inflamed and causing pain. also repetitive use of the computer at less than ideal positioning has caused this too. Lumberg had one of those splints for the hand. I think I'll try it at least the next few days while at work and see is that makes an impact.stilleto said:
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Maybe a parafin(sp?) bath will help.
Youi need an OT. More specifically a hand therapist! HA! Seriously, go to a Hand rehab place, they will make you a custom splint for the hand if needed. not "one that lumberg used" one. wtf is that? You need it specifically molded to your hand and the proper position etc..
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Both these sysmptoms warrant some action sumfer. We're not getting any younger. do it.
Youi need an OT. More specifically a hand therapist! HA! Seriously, go to a Hand rehab place, they will make you a custom splint for the hand if needed. not "one that lumberg used" one. wtf is that? You need it specifically molded to your hand and the proper position etc..
paraffin.
Both these sysmptoms warrant some action sumfer. We're not getting any younger. do it.
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naproxen is bad for youortiz34 said:
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ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The Food and Drug Administration issued a warning to users of the over-the-counter pain reliever naproxen Monday after federal researchers found an increased number of heart attacks and strokes among users.
The warning followed recent studies linking two prescription arthritis drugs to cardiovascular problems.
Naproxen, sold under the brand name Aleve, was part of a study by the National Institutes of Health into whether naproxen or the arthritis drug Celebrex could be used to treat Alzheimer's disease. NIH researchers halted the survey after finding people who took naproxen were 50 percent more likely to have heart attacks or strokes. (Full story)
The FDA urged users to contact their doctors and to avoid taking the drug for longer than 10 days.
Helmut Schdefers, a spokesman for Bayer Healthcare AG, makers of Aleve, said the company was notified late Monday night about the tests. The company has not yet seen the data, he told CNN, but is investigating the matter.
"We are in agreement with FDA regulators that people taking Aleve should consult their doctors and avoid taking the drug for more than 10 days," he said. "Aleve is particularly disturbing because it's an over-the-counter drug,"
FDA drug safety researcher and whistleblower David Graham told CNN's "American Morning," "Over-the-counter drugs are supposed to be the ones that are the absolutely safest."
The NIH study appeared to contradict a National Cancer Institute study last week that found that Celebrex users had a higher risk of heart attack or stroke. The NIH did not find a higher likelihood of those problems in Celebrex users.
Friday, the FDA warned doctors to consider "alternative therapy" for patients taking Celebrex after cancer researchers found a higher risk of cardiovascular problems among patients taking the drug.
The FDA statement said another painkiller, Bextra, has also shown increased risks of cardiovascular events following heart surgery.
Last week's findings came more than two months after drug manufacturer Merck recalled a similar arthritis drug, Vioxx, after similar results. Merck now faces hundreds of lawsuits and potentially billions of dollars in damages.
Vioxx, Bextra and Celebrex are from a family of drugs known as Cox-2 inhibitors, which have been heavily advertised to potential patients. Pfizer pulled ads for Celebrex, but it has disputed the findings and has kept the drug on the market for now.
Graham said the recent issues surrounding the medications point to larger problems at the FDA, such as a lack of agency accountability. The agency, he said, remains in denial about problems with the way drugs are approved.
"I think this asks the larger question, 'Why has FDA not done the job it needs to do to protect America from unsafe drugs?' " he said.
Graham said in his 20 years at the FDA, "safety has been at the back of the bus, if it's on the bus at all."
The warning followed recent studies linking two prescription arthritis drugs to cardiovascular problems.
Naproxen, sold under the brand name Aleve, was part of a study by the National Institutes of Health into whether naproxen or the arthritis drug Celebrex could be used to treat Alzheimer's disease. NIH researchers halted the survey after finding people who took naproxen were 50 percent more likely to have heart attacks or strokes. (Full story)
The FDA urged users to contact their doctors and to avoid taking the drug for longer than 10 days.
Helmut Schdefers, a spokesman for Bayer Healthcare AG, makers of Aleve, said the company was notified late Monday night about the tests. The company has not yet seen the data, he told CNN, but is investigating the matter.
"We are in agreement with FDA regulators that people taking Aleve should consult their doctors and avoid taking the drug for more than 10 days," he said. "Aleve is particularly disturbing because it's an over-the-counter drug,"
FDA drug safety researcher and whistleblower David Graham told CNN's "American Morning," "Over-the-counter drugs are supposed to be the ones that are the absolutely safest."
The NIH study appeared to contradict a National Cancer Institute study last week that found that Celebrex users had a higher risk of heart attack or stroke. The NIH did not find a higher likelihood of those problems in Celebrex users.
Friday, the FDA warned doctors to consider "alternative therapy" for patients taking Celebrex after cancer researchers found a higher risk of cardiovascular problems among patients taking the drug.
The FDA statement said another painkiller, Bextra, has also shown increased risks of cardiovascular events following heart surgery.
Last week's findings came more than two months after drug manufacturer Merck recalled a similar arthritis drug, Vioxx, after similar results. Merck now faces hundreds of lawsuits and potentially billions of dollars in damages.
Vioxx, Bextra and Celebrex are from a family of drugs known as Cox-2 inhibitors, which have been heavily advertised to potential patients. Pfizer pulled ads for Celebrex, but it has disputed the findings and has kept the drug on the market for now.
Graham said the recent issues surrounding the medications point to larger problems at the FDA, such as a lack of agency accountability. The agency, he said, remains in denial about problems with the way drugs are approved.
"I think this asks the larger question, 'Why has FDA not done the job it needs to do to protect America from unsafe drugs?' " he said.
Graham said in his 20 years at the FDA, "safety has been at the back of the bus, if it's on the bus at all."
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Naproxen (e.g. Aleve, Naprosyn, Anaprox, Naprelan)
Naproxen is available in both non-prescription strength (e.g. brand name Aleve) and prescription strength (e.g. brand name Naprosyn). For patients with back pain, it works by reducing proteins that cause inflammation and pain in the body and is commonly recommended for treatment of back pain.
Naproxen thins the blood, so individuals taking oral blood thinners or anticoagulants should avoid naproxen, as excessive blood thinning may lead to bleeding. Naproxen also can have some adverse gastrointestinal side effects, so people with active ulcers or sensitive stomachs should avoid it. It is best to take naproxen with food to reduce the chance of upset stomach. Notably, naproxen has a potentially fatal interaction with MAOI drugs (e.g. Marplan, Nardil).
Naproxen is available in both non-prescription strength (e.g. brand name Aleve) and prescription strength (e.g. brand name Naprosyn). For patients with back pain, it works by reducing proteins that cause inflammation and pain in the body and is commonly recommended for treatment of back pain.
Naproxen thins the blood, so individuals taking oral blood thinners or anticoagulants should avoid naproxen, as excessive blood thinning may lead to bleeding. Naproxen also can have some adverse gastrointestinal side effects, so people with active ulcers or sensitive stomachs should avoid it. It is best to take naproxen with food to reduce the chance of upset stomach. Notably, naproxen has a potentially fatal interaction with MAOI drugs (e.g. Marplan, Nardil).
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Risk of serious GI problems & bleeding intensified by common OTC pain medications, new study
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Article Date: 07 Nov 2005 - 0:00 PST
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Patients who combine the common over-the counter pain medications ibuprofen and naproxen with aspirin have a risk of gastrointestinal complications including ulcers, perforations and bleeding that is two to three times greater than patients who take these medications but do not combine them with aspirin. Findings of a large retrospective review of medical records for over 3.2 million individuals were presented at the 70th Annual Scientific Meeting of the American College of Gastroenterology.
Researchers from the University of Utah and Pfizer Inc. included 11,957 patients on naproxen (220 mg) and 38,507 patients on ibuprofen (200 mg) in this study that used GE Medical System's Centricity database. Excluded from the analysis were patients who took steroids, used blood thinners such as warfarin (Coumadin�), or had other significant health problems. Patients on ibuprofen and naproxen, known as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), were 2.5 to 2.74 times more likely to experience serious GI problems such as ulcers, perforations or bleeding than those who did not take over-the-counter pain medications.
When the researchers looked at the smaller groups of ibuprofen and naproxen users who also took aspirin, there was increased risk of serious problems. Patients taking both ibuprofen and aspirin had a risk of serious GI problems that was 3.4 times higher than patients taking just ibuprofen. For the naproxen and aspirin users, their risk was 2 times higher than those on naproxen alone. "Aspirin can significantly increase the risk of problems among patients using other over-the-counter NSAIDs," according to Joseph Biskupiak, Ph.D. of the University of Utah.
About the American College of Gastroenterology
The ACG was formed in 1932 to advance the scientific study and medical treatment of disorders of the gastrointestinal (GI) tract. The College promotes the highest standards in medical education and is guided by its commitment to meeting the needs of clinical gastroenterology practitioners. Consumers can get more information on GI diseases through the following ACG-sponsored programs:
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Patients who combine the common over-the counter pain medications ibuprofen and naproxen with aspirin have a risk of gastrointestinal complications including ulcers, perforations and bleeding that is two to three times greater than patients who take these medications but do not combine them with aspirin. Findings of a large retrospective review of medical records for over 3.2 million individuals were presented at the 70th Annual Scientific Meeting of the American College of Gastroenterology.
Researchers from the University of Utah and Pfizer Inc. included 11,957 patients on naproxen (220 mg) and 38,507 patients on ibuprofen (200 mg) in this study that used GE Medical System's Centricity database. Excluded from the analysis were patients who took steroids, used blood thinners such as warfarin (Coumadin�), or had other significant health problems. Patients on ibuprofen and naproxen, known as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), were 2.5 to 2.74 times more likely to experience serious GI problems such as ulcers, perforations or bleeding than those who did not take over-the-counter pain medications.
When the researchers looked at the smaller groups of ibuprofen and naproxen users who also took aspirin, there was increased risk of serious problems. Patients taking both ibuprofen and aspirin had a risk of serious GI problems that was 3.4 times higher than patients taking just ibuprofen. For the naproxen and aspirin users, their risk was 2 times higher than those on naproxen alone. "Aspirin can significantly increase the risk of problems among patients using other over-the-counter NSAIDs," according to Joseph Biskupiak, Ph.D. of the University of Utah.
About the American College of Gastroenterology
The ACG was formed in 1932 to advance the scientific study and medical treatment of disorders of the gastrointestinal (GI) tract. The College promotes the highest standards in medical education and is guided by its commitment to meeting the needs of clinical gastroenterology practitioners. Consumers can get more information on GI diseases through the following ACG-sponsored programs:
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What are the possible side effects of lansoprazole and naproxen?
emt If you experience any of the following serious side effects, stop taking lansoprazole and naproxen and seek medical treatment or contact your doctor immediately:
* an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of the throat; swelling of the lips, tongue, or face; or hives);
* rapid weight gain (fluid retention);
* black, bloody, or tarry stools;
* blood in urine or vomit;
* yellowing of the skin or eyes (jaundice); or
* persistent or severe heartburn or indigestion.
Other, less serious side effects may be more likely to occur. Continue to take lansoprazole and naproxen and talk to your doctor if you experience
* dizziness or drowsiness;
* headache;
* nausea, diarrhea, or stomach upset; or
* depression.
emt If you experience any of the following serious side effects, stop taking lansoprazole and naproxen and seek medical treatment or contact your doctor immediately:
* an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of the throat; swelling of the lips, tongue, or face; or hives);
* rapid weight gain (fluid retention);
* black, bloody, or tarry stools;
* blood in urine or vomit;
* yellowing of the skin or eyes (jaundice); or
* persistent or severe heartburn or indigestion.
Other, less serious side effects may be more likely to occur. Continue to take lansoprazole and naproxen and talk to your doctor if you experience
* dizziness or drowsiness;
* headache;
* nausea, diarrhea, or stomach upset; or
* depression.
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holy shit it can even give you eye problems
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so how many studies out there have shown taking a normal dos of any of thesestilleto said:
will cause health problums.just asking.
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thats just one study lol there is more I just threw that out there.Smurfy said:
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a.it has bin shown to helpstilleto said:
b.you can get all of that and more all in one cap here
http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
i clicked tha link but it doesnt tell me shit about how to register, order, etc.needtogetas said:a.it has bin shown to help
b.you can get all of that and more all in one cap here
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White Willow Bark (15% Salicin)
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Boswellia serrata is a tree found in northern India. Its resin, known simply as boswellia, is used for a variety of joint problems.
active ingredients
Boswellic Acid (65%)
where is it found
Northern India.
major uses
Anti-inflammatory
Arthritis
Other joint problems
active ingredients
Boswellic Acid (65%)
where is it found
Northern India.
major uses
Anti-inflammatory
Arthritis
Other joint problems
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Smurfy said:
Damn..lay off your "mouse" for awhile or invest in one of these.
http://www.batteries-not-included.co.uk/Images/adulttoys_sections/rabbit_vibrators_section.jpg
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click the link then click the color you want.like green oringe what ever.Smurfy said:
then click ether
PRODUCTS
this will give you a list of already made products just click were it says and one of these for what type of product you want
ALL PRODUCTS
AMINO ACIDS
BOTANICALS
BULK POWDERS
NUTRACEUTICALS
VITAMINS
DIABETES
DIGESTIVE SUPPORT
IMMUNE SUPPORT
SLEEP SUPPLEMENTS
SPORT SUPPLEMENTS
WEIGHT MANAGEMENT
BONE HEALTH
CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH
EYE HEALTH
JOINT HEALTH
MEN'S HEALTH
MENTAL FUNCTION
or if you want to make your own pill click
CREATE CAPSULE then click on the category of ingredient you want on one of the
ALL PRODUCTS
AMINO ACIDS
BOTANICALS
MINERALS
NUTRACEUTICALS
PROBIOTICS
VITAMINS
DIABETES
DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
DIGESTIVE SUPPORT
HEARTBURN
IMMUNE SUPPORT
SLEEP SUPPLEMENTS
SPORT SUPPLEMENTS
WEIGHT MANAGEMENT
BONE HEALTH
CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH
EYE HEALTH
JOINT HEALTH
LUNG HEALTH
MEN'S HEALTH
MENTAL FUNCTION
WOMEN'S HEALTH
then start adding things to make a cap.
you do not register till you are ready to check out
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once you click a color you will see every thing.you can click the help at the top of the screen after you pick the color if you need any more help.Smurfy said:
Smurfy, from your description of the focal nature of the pain, it sounds like you might have this:
http://arthritis.about.com/cs/hand/g/DeQuervain.htm
If it was CTS, it would affect other fingers. Treatment is still basically the same. A cortisone injection would make the pain go away almost instantly if you went to go see an orthopedist.
http://arthritis.about.com/cs/hand/g/DeQuervain.htm
If it was CTS, it would affect other fingers. Treatment is still basically the same. A cortisone injection would make the pain go away almost instantly if you went to go see an orthopedist.
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cortisone is bad for you.even one shot.musclemom said:
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but calcium orotateneedtogetas said:
can be used to help with bad side effects from cortisone
Although my room mate is a therapist, I don't know the exact answer. So technically, I don't know the difference between OT and PT, but very roughly, I will say that PTs do more of getting you back on your feet after an accident or injury etc... as opposed to OT where they get you doing ADLs (Activities of Daily Living) like teaching you to do more specific things like eat, write, use your hands to cook, wipe your ass, use a pen...
They usually work together (OT's and PTs) but the PTs can get a patient first, just to get them moving, walking, etc..., then the OT will take over to get their fine motor skills going. (maybe in a perfect world, but it doesn't happen like that all the time due to billing issues and insuarance etc... i won't get into it damnit!)
OT= more detail oriented and would be more for you in this 'hands' case.
You can find them at Outpatient Rehab places and they may be advertized as 'Hand Rehab' as well.
When calling a place, I would ask if they have a CHT to see you. If not, you should find a place that does. Certified Hand Therapist.
They usually work together (OT's and PTs) but the PTs can get a patient first, just to get them moving, walking, etc..., then the OT will take over to get their fine motor skills going. (maybe in a perfect world, but it doesn't happen like that all the time due to billing issues and insuarance etc... i won't get into it damnit!)
OT= more detail oriented and would be more for you in this 'hands' case.
You can find them at Outpatient Rehab places and they may be advertized as 'Hand Rehab' as well.
When calling a place, I would ask if they have a CHT to see you. If not, you should find a place that does. Certified Hand Therapist.
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stop spankin' it so much.
