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Can't orgasm after test/tren cycle

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joey1522

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Quite a frustrating(literally)problem cycle went like this

Week 1-12 test 400 2xpw 800mg
Week 4-10 Tri tren 2xpw 400mg
Week 4-10 Anavar 50mg ed

pct will be 4 days after last jab 10 days at 1000iu ED hcg then
clomid 100/100/50/50/50
tamoxifen 20/20/20/20/20

Should have run hcg 500iu a week during cycle as balls are teeny, but didnt. Last jab of test was yesterday. Had no problems with sex drive from word go, felt like a horny teenager again, got hard almost every minute of the day but just couldnt finish off and sometimes even struggled myself. Would it be too late to start some caber(dostinex) or just wait till i start hcg or start it early? I'm not sure if i should start clomid early.

Lasting few hours can sound great but can be tiresome after a long day and early start, its also embarrasing. Getting worried/desperate
 
Should have started the hcg and caber by now, and your pct is gonna leave you even worse off bro. Nolva with a 19nor is bad news in the making and your clomid dose is about 4 times too high

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finished cycle yesterday 29.7 was advised to do 1500iu 2xpw hcg but after doing some research decided on 10 day blast, its not my first cycle but it is with tren

if you could give me any advise big id really apreciate it, like should i drop nolva totally, was gonna be taking clomid 50mg 2x ed for 2 weeks then 50 ed for 3
 
Same thing happened to a friend of mine, he went through with using both clomid and nolva and after pct it went back to normal
 
you come on here and ask a sex related question and fail to give us your stats.. how can we give you advice? hell maybe you are a female.. maybe you are 60 years old. we have no idea. please give your full stats if you want the very best advice.

also need to see your full bloods to see where you are at. provide those 2 things and i will be able to help you
 
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bigbassturd said:
Should have started the hcg and caber by now, and your pct is gonna leave you even worse off bro. Nolva with a 19nor is bad news in the making and your clomid dose is about 4 times too high

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this right here covers to a tee the mistakes you did.

another victim of the tren/test cycle. i tell guys all the time to run tren alone without test cause you get all the benefits without the sex related problems when you come off. test will shut you down harder than anything out there, but guys insist on mixing it with something that converts to prolactin and not running anything to combat the prolactin. bad scenario.

but guys are stubborn i guess
 
stevesmi said:
this right here covers to a tee the mistakes you did.

another victim of the tren/test cycle. i tell guys all the time to run tren alone without test cause you get all the benefits without the sex related problems when you come off. test will shut you down harder than anything out there, but guys insist on mixing it with something that converts to prolactin and not running anything to combat the prolactin. bad scenario.

but guys are stubborn i guess
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I think it depends on the scenario and the individual. I know for myself I cant run TREN only cycles. By week 3-4 I feel like garbage and my sex drive dips. If I run it with testosterone I never have that problem. I'm energetic the whole cycle and by libido is throgh the rough.
 
Just a different opinion here...but everyone is focused on the physical reactions to prolactin. He is saying that during the cycle he had a strong libido, could get it up, but just had trouble finishing. There was another thread a while back that was similar and I commented on the possibel mental side effects of the gear. I almost always run test/tren together and have had similar issues, I also figured it was something with the the tren. But then when my wife ran a test cycle and experienced the same problem...I thought there might be smoething more to it.

Anyways just throwing that out there because his problem did not sound like a normal negative libido reaction to prolactin.
 
stevesmi said:
this right here covers to a tee the mistakes you did.

another victim of the tren/test cycle. i tell guys all the time to run tren alone without test cause you get all the benefits without the sex related problems when you come off. test will shut you down harder than anything out there, but guys insist on mixing it with something that converts to prolactin and not running anything to combat the prolactin. bad scenario.

but guys are stubborn i guess
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Test will shut you down harder than tren? I find that very hard to believe.
 
^^^ I find it easy to believe that guys insist that test doesn't suppress the HPTA.

test is as suppressive as any other AAS out there. not sure why guys think it won't suppress your HPTA. complete myth. it might not be as fast as tren when it comes to suppressing you, but i guarantee it is very suppressive and will shut you down harder.. there is a guy who posted his bloodwork just yesterday on here who was on test for ONLY 5 weeks and his LH was already at .01!!!! so not sure how much more suppressed you have to be to be convinced that test shuts you down HARD. combine tren on top of that and not run anti-prolactin and an AI and you are looking for trouble bigtime.

also being 'shutdown' as you put it doesn't always link to libido and pee-pee problems.. this is another myth. you can be suppressed and still have a terrific sex drive and vice versa. the OP obviously made his problem worse by running an large amount of clomid which is a dick killer, so even if his LH was 6 and his test levels were humming along perfectly just adding clomid to his protocol could have ruined his libido.. many drugs will do the same thing that are out there. which is why i want to hear the OP's full stats and what exactly he ran and how long etc before attempting to give them advice
 
I didn't say test is not suppressive.
Of course it suppresses you like any other aas but tren is a powerful hormone and IMO affects the hpta the hardest.
 
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again .01 after 5 weeks is as suppressed as you can get.. and the guy went into cycle fully recovered from a PH cycle like 6 months prior. so its not like he went into cycle already shut down.

not the first blood work i have seen.. i've seen hundreds, maybe thousands from different guys. there is no denying test will shut you down and fast. tren ace will shut you down faster only because of the ester difference (which I am not disagreeing with you on), but .01 is as shut down as you can get. means your HPTA is out of order.

the good thing about tren though is you do not have to worry about estrogen issues, with test you do. and when your estrogen is high going into pct its tougher for your HTPA to start functioning again. which is the reason guys run AI's during cycle and SERM's after

so either way guys have to run their cycles correctly to give them every advantage to recover.
 
Hi thanks for many replies been woking long hours


stats
250lbs give or take 5lbs as my scales seem different to mates ones
age 37
training on and off for years but solidly 2+ yrs 5day on 2 day off
eat clean with few cheat meals but struggle to eat every few hours because of my job.
5 foot 11
bf unsure about 17% as ate like a horse
getting bloods done after pct, yes didnt get them done before this cycle
throw em away b4 wife sees em and asks


stevesmi said:
but guys are stubborn i guess
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stubborn is a bit harsh, did my research seems the old way is more test than tren but new way seems low to zero test and higher tren than test. correct me if im wrong

as for sides only got them 3 weeks into tren. My pct and info was from a good friend and huge lifter so i trust him however if you think its too much i will lower it. I thought id see what was happening to me and soon found out the prolactin sides and saw caber was the answer, but yes it was too late then.

I now realise nolva is a poor idea so ill be leaving that alone, probably getting some unleashed too, its expensive in uk and will try ntbm see if they deliver to uk.

I hammered the net to find out more on my cycle before i did it but seems you can never have enough knowledge. I realise i made some mistakes here, certainly will learn for next time.

thanks
 
joey1522 said:
Hi thanks for many replies been woking long hours


stats
250lbs give or take 5lbs as my scales seem different to mates ones
age 37
training on and off for years but solidly 2+ yrs 5day on 2 day off
eat clean with few cheat meals but struggle to eat every few hours because of my job.
5 foot 11
bf unsure about 17% as ate like a horse
getting bloods done after pct, yes didnt get them done before this cycle
throw em away b4 wife sees em and asks




stubborn is a bit harsh, did my research seems the old way is more test than tren but new way seems low to zero test and higher tren than test. correct me if im wrong

as for sides only got them 3 weeks into tren. My pct and info was from a good friend and huge lifter so i trust him however if you think its too much i will lower it. I thought id see what was happening to me and soon found out the prolactin sides and saw caber was the answer, but yes it was too late then.

I now realise nolva is a poor idea so ill be leaving that alone, probably getting some unleashed too, its expensive in uk and will try ntbm see if they deliver to uk.

I hammered the net to find out more on my cycle before i did it but seems you can never have enough knowledge. I realise i made some mistakes here, certainly will learn for next time.

thanks
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the stubborn comment wasn't directly at you.. it was directed at the type of people i deal with who think they know everything and don't want to listen. its only a small fraction of guys on here, most everyone is smart enough to take my advice. in fact its funny that the pct i started recommending guys take 2 years ago on here and got attacked for is now what almost everyone follows and recommends to others.. why? cause it WORKS!!

so based on what you wrote telling us your stats really helps bigtime. now atleast i know you aren't some 21 year old kid or an 70 year old fart.

i would definately grab some natty test boosters which will help across the board make you feel better. i wouldn't mess with nolva, clomid any of that other shit anymore.. you've already crossed the bridge and there isn't turning back now. when you get bloods back you can post them up but my advice won't change much anyway.. still good to know your bloods for peace of mind
 
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