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Can't Do Real Squats

Lee

Lee

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Well this really bummed me out today. I've been doing hack squats ever since I got back into lifting last December, but I've trained my legs maybe 10 times since I started lifting, big mistake. I go to the gym today to do some real squats for the first time ever, and I just couldn't do em. I got the form down with the bar, and when I started doin em, I just didn't have the strength to squat 225. 135 was wayyyyyy too easy, but 225 just buried my ass.

So instead I set a PR on incline leg press to release my anger. 590 for my 5x5. Jesus my legs are weak, I guess that comes with being 6'5" and having long ass legs.

I'm gonna stick to incline legs press til I can 5x5 700, then I'll move onto squats again.
 
Don't make me fly to Alaska and kick your buns! :mad:

There is Z-E-R-O carry over from leg presses to squats. Your squats will get stronger if you squat and strengthen your core. The problem might not even BE your legs!

Shit, I leg press 9 plates each side for reps but I sure as hell can't squat that!

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Does your gym have quarter plates? Do you have to jump a whole wheel?

What's your form like?

Where did you fail?
 
Lee said:
Should I just squat 135 to strengthen up a bit then?
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o 135 for a week and add ten pounds and repeat workout. over time the weight will go up... big jumps cause many to fall....
 
the failure came right when i hit parallel. i felt strong on the way down, nice and slow, hit parallel and tried to go back up and just dropped, thank god for spotter bars.
 
oh, and yes they have quarter plates, but 135 was so incredibly easy, i coulda done it 25 times with ease.
 
ever heard of 2.5lb, 5 and 10lb plates? Typical, everyone wants to see 2 wheels on each side of the bar... :rolleyes: ;)

Squats require lower back strength and balance as well - leg press will never build those areas
 
So what's wrong with 185?!?!?

Or even 135-->155-->185

I've honestly never heard of anyone only making whole plate jumps before.

Can you produce a vid of your squat? I'd bet money your knees are coming in.

Perhaps your CORE can't handle 225.
 
hmmm, cant make a video. but next leg day ill def try 155 and 185. im thinkin it is my core, i have a strong chest/upper back, but my lower back is pretty weak. my abs are very strong though too.
 
Yeah, bro.....there are A LOT of numbers that come between 135 and 225, take advantage of them.....nobody should be making whole plate jumps, unless they are blowing through warm-ups......and leg press is okay for assistance or a change here and there, but like Spatts said, it has ZERO carry-over to squats......I leg pressed today for shits and giggles after I deadlifted and my last set was 1,100 for 8 easy reps, knees burried in my chest, if I could squat that, I'd be a husehold name......just squat and be patient and take advantage of the 90 other numbers that come between 135 and 225.
 
Right now I've started at 135 and I'm adding 10lbs each time I squat. I'm doing 5x5 easily and just building up. Like you, I've done minimal leg work of late and am getting over injuries. Just take it slow and hang in there.

Forget about the amount of weight on the bar with the exception that you are adding weight each workout . Just get your form perfect and make sure you go low. Before you know it, you'll be squatting big numbers.

I've got very long legs for my 5'8 frame. You should see how short my torso is compared to my legs. My hips are up underneath my armpits. No excuses. You've got to squat :)
 
I felt the same way when i changed from smith squats to real squats. Just when i hit parallel i had serious trouble getting it up. So i went down to 155 and started working my way up again. I did some very light ass to floor squats to get that extra strength i needed when going parallel.

Its embarrassing, i know :)
 
spatts said:
So what's wrong with 185?!?!?

Or even 135-->155-->185

I've honestly never heard of anyone only making whole plate jumps before.

Can you produce a vid of your squat? I'd bet money your knees are coming in.

Perhaps your CORE can't handle 225.
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Ditto. You work with what weight you can lift in perfect form. It doesn't matter what the number is.

If you can't handle 225lbs yet... that doesn't mean you can't squat. It means you can't handle 225lbs yet.
 
Bro, do not be afraid to start out light. Remember, lift with your head, not your ego. Perfection of form will lead to increases in strength.

Find your weakness, and strengthen it.

Good luck man!
 
lol, ill be moving soon, alaska sucks :D

by the end of the year ill be in Chino Hills, California, hopefully sometime next year if B Fold has another get together, ill fly out there to KY.
 
OH! When you get to Cali, say something like "Deads are bad for you back," so I have an excuse to come out there. ;)
 
Lee said:
Well this really bummed me out today. I've been doing hack squats ever since I got back into lifting last December, but I've trained my legs maybe 10 times since I started lifting, big mistake. I go to the gym today to do some real squats for the first time ever, and I just couldn't do em. I got the form down with the bar, and when I started doin em, I just didn't have the strength to squat 225. 135 was wayyyyyy too easy, but 225 just buried my ass.

So instead I set a PR on incline leg press to release my anger. 590 for my 5x5. Jesus my legs are weak, I guess that comes with being 6'5" and having long ass legs.

I'm gonna stick to incline legs press til I can 5x5 700, then I'll move onto squats again.
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Dude, 135 on squats is TONS better for you than leg press in my opinion. Have you thought about doing 185? Throw a quarter on each side? Maybe some 10's? -- you can work your way up dude! I started off doing front squats at 135lbs in Janurary, and now I can do 275 for 1-2 reps... a mere 5 months later (actually, I could do that in like March -- so 3 months :) ) --

Seriously, if you can do the squats... do them. If you have a real reason, like you can't hold the bar with your shoulder because it will rip out of socket... then come talk to me. :)

C-ditty
 
I'm pretty much with everyone else here. Squat what you can, eventually you'll get up there. 135 on squat it gonna strengthen parts that anything on leg press isn't going to. I'm assuming when you started lifting, you couldn't hit 225 on bench easily, so you worked your way up instead of not benching. Why would squats be any different? Keep after it bro, and pretty soon 225 will be easy and you'll be hitting 315 soon. Good luck getting there. Even with 135, at least you're squatting. How many others in your gym are even doing that?
 
lol, i like deadlifts so i wont be saying that. how bout "cleans hurt my shoulders"? :P
 
I began squatting with ZERO weight. Bodyweight squats. FYI :)

You need to challenge yourself LEE.

Conquer the exercises that are difficult for you!
 
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